Silencer - Page 8

AZ-K9 · July 22, 2008, 07:05 PM

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There are 11 members on this thread with less than 8 posts. The only posts ever for most of them is on this thread. Most attacking a gentleman they know nothing about. I assume you think it was me that was crapping on the thread.

I suspect it's more a result of the sheer ignorance you and Mr. Boner display regarding the ownership and application of silencers that has people coming from the woodwork than anything else. You do a casual perusal of North Carolina state law and have become convinced that silencers are illegal there, and spout it at every opportunity.

Frankly, your ignorance and proclivity to defend such makes you a giant target for correction.

It is easier, in my state, to buy and obtain a silencer than it is to get a drivers license. There is no test, no eye exam, no example of proficiency required.

ZeroJunk · July 22, 2008, 07:10 PM

I guess as the young graduate from video games to real weapons their taste will be more influenced by what they think is cool looking. I am just behind the times. Perhaps it will eventually dawn on you that thinking silencers are unnecessary has absolutely nothing to do with supporting gun control. If you want to enhance the perception of gun owners try learning how to spell, leave out the invectives, explain your position without any name calling like scum, moronic, etc. and you will be more successful in your cause.

Zak Smith · July 22, 2008, 07:17 PM

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I guess as the young graduate from video games to real weapons their taste will be more influenced by what they think is cool looking. I am just behind the times.

Here you are guessing at and making assumptions about others' motives again.

Funny, some of the guys that get most excited when I show up with a can at the shooting range are the old-timers who realize if they had one on their .17 HMR, .22LR, or .223 rifles, they could more easily decimate the prairie dog populations on their land.

-z

ZeroJunk · July 22, 2008, 07:26 PM

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Here you are guessing at and making assumption

Not really. Since VUPDblue pointed out the exception to NC law to me in the first of this thread I have been pretty much chain jerking. It's somewhat entertaining.

You should have treated Harry better.

Lavid2002 · July 22, 2008, 07:36 PM

Lets take a look at the aspects of the person LEGALLY buying a silencer. There are so many steps he/she must take that if the silencer was to be used for illegal purposes they fuzz would be all over them like white on rice. Thats why THE SYSTEM IS SET UP LIKE IT IS. Why get finger printed, picture taken, live in x and such for a certain time. Know the cerial number of gun it will be used on. Someone going to commit a crime with a silencer has to go through WAY too much hassle to do something illegal! Weigh the options, use a bow or knife...silent as anything...or use a suppressed firearm....blow evidence everywhere....You get the point. Supressors are GREAT! How about the bad things about shooting.....recoil, noise, cleaning the weapon....How can we avoid these....Recoil pads, Sweet....Bore snakes, Sweet.....Supressors...Wait. Hollywood has made this one out to be a bad guys weapon of choice.

I would LOVE to have my rifles make minimal-no noise.

MisterWilson · July 22, 2008, 07:58 PM

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You should have treated Harry better.

He should have been more careful to not shoot his mouth off making ignorant statements.

Shempf · July 22, 2008, 08:29 PM

"Hollywood has made this one out to be a bad guys weapon of choice."

This reminded me when I did a research paper on the effects of media and it's portrayal of information and it's altering psychological effects on children through adults. Very interesting to learn how it shapes so many people. It even helped me to view my ways and why certain aspects may be what they are. Hence why media is BIG money. People believe.

MOS11C · July 22, 2008, 08:47 PM

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If you want to enhance the perception of gun owners try learning how to spell, leave out the invectives, explain your position without any name calling like scum, moronic, etc. and you will be more successful in your cause.

I don't need your suggestion to be successful in my cause.

This is what I do:

-Join pro-gun/pro-Freedom organizations
(you don't even have to pay, just read and be informed, there are pro-gun groups for women, LE, Constitutionalists, RKBA, even some religious sectors have pro-gun groups)

-Contact the Federal and State legislators
(beat the crap out of their email system, even to support or oppose issues from other States or municipalities)
Follow up with the Democrats that support RKBA and let the Republicans who have voted for gun-control know they'll be held accountable on election day.
You see, they come in all colors.

-Write letters and give online feedback to local newspapers and the liberal media in general
(these organizations have it backwards most of the time)

-Get to know what the scumbag Brady center is up to and oppose them.

-Introduce other dudes to shooting and gun-ownership
(some via online forums like this one), take a friend or neighbor (that doesn't own a gun) to a gun show or to the range.

-Post comments in forums and blogs
(specially non-gun related forums where the gun ignorant can be educated)

-Buy the stuff that the anti-gun want to ban.
(Flood the market, there's evidence that this is one of the best weapons against any ban)

-Be a responsible gun-owner (have knowledge of the gun laws, safe storage, gun handling, etc.)

What do you do, besides worrying about other dudes syntax and venting on some laws that you'll never understand? (Rhetorical)

ZeroJunk · July 22, 2008, 08:53 PM

I can't tell you how much safer I feel that our gun rights are in good hands

MOS11C · July 22, 2008, 09:05 PM

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You can demonstrate your mentality better than I.

And you yours.

I find it amazing how your brain could only distinguish a few inconsequential words from the entire post. Nothing else was absorbed.

Amazing...........but not surprising.

MOS11C · July 22, 2008, 09:08 PM

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I can't tell you how much safer I feel that our gun rights are in good hands

You missed the point again.
It wasn't necessarily meant as props for me or to get sympathy from you.

Again, these are ideas for other folks reading this thread and that really care.

Hugh G Rection · July 22, 2008, 09:34 PM

Treat Harry Boner better?

HArry Boner got what he deserved . . . he deserved to be Zumbo'd and he was.

2008 is a NO SHRUG year and we aren't going to simply sit back like we did in 1994, shrug our shoulders . . . and allow anti gun rights douchebags to remain in our midst without complete and total exposure.

ZeroJunk · July 23, 2008, 05:38 AM

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Again, these are ideas for other folks reading this thread and that really care.

I can tell you are dedicated and passionate about your hobby.

I still think that you and these guys coming out of the woodwork would be better for gun ownership in the long run if you write as if you were actually educated and have some class.

A good example would be the previous poster who by his member name and intentional mis-spelling of Harry's proves that he has neither.

Johnny Guest · July 23, 2008, 09:39 AM

I can’t believe I missed this entire thread - - At first glance, it seemed like several others, a general request for information, with plenty of members willing to answer. It went wrong in a hurry and it’s my fault I missed it.

I am frankly upset that the participants, some of whom are normally technical-minded and thoughtful members, have stooped to these depths.

I’m leaving this thread up as an example of how NOT to conduct a discussion, and as a reminder to myself to keep better track of what’s going on in this forum.

Any other such thread, though, will be closed off as promptly as possible. Posts will not be edited - - They will simply be deleted. If there are too many to mess with, the entire thread will disappear. I’ve killed a couple of posts in this thread that appear to have taken some time and thought to write. The poster’s having made a personal attack or used crude language, though, resulted in their deletion.

Just as a general reminder: Henceforth, on this forum, ANY personal attacks on a member rather than his argument, purposely degrading or demeaning remarks, and trolling will result in revocation of posting privileges. No tolerance, no warning. It is worth your membership to get in one super clever, ultra spiteful little jab? Think twice, post once.

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TFL Staff
Moderator,
NFA Guns and Gear forum

July 22, 2008, 07:36 PM	#180
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	Id want one Lets take a look at the aspects of the person LEGALLY buying a silencer. There are so many steps he/she must take that if the silencer was to be used for illegal purposes they fuzz would be all over them like white on rice. Thats why THE SYSTEM IS SET UP LIKE IT IS. Why get finger printed, picture taken, live in x and such for a certain time. Know the cerial number of gun it will be used on. Someone going to commit a crime with a silencer has to go through WAY too much hassle to do something illegal! Weigh the options, use a bow or knife...silent as anything...or use a suppressed firearm....blow evidence everywhere....You get the point. Supressors are GREAT! How about the bad things about shooting.....recoil, noise, cleaning the weapon....How can we avoid these....Recoil pads, Sweet....Bore snakes, Sweet.....Supressors...Wait. Hollywood has made this one out to be a bad guys weapon of choice. I would LOVE to have my rifles make minimal-no noise. __________________ Math>Grammar

July 23, 2008, 09:39 AM	#189
Johnny Guest Moderator in Memoriam Join Date: August 28, 1999 Location: North Texas Posts: 4,123	My fault, I guess I can’t believe I missed this entire thread - - At first glance, it seemed like several others, a general request for information, with plenty of members willing to answer. It went wrong in a hurry and it’s my fault I missed it. I am frankly upset that the participants, some of whom are normally technical-minded and thoughtful members, have stooped to these depths. I’m leaving this thread up as an example of how NOT to conduct a discussion, and as a reminder to myself to keep better track of what’s going on in this forum. Any other such thread, though, will be closed off as promptly as possible. Posts will not be edited - - They will simply be deleted. If there are too many to mess with, the entire thread will disappear. I’ve killed a couple of posts in this thread that appear to have taken some time and thought to write. The poster’s having made a personal attack or used crude language, though, resulted in their deletion. Just as a general reminder: Henceforth, on this forum, ANY personal attacks on a member rather than his argument, purposely degrading or demeaning remarks, and trolling will result in revocation of posting privileges. No tolerance, no warning. It is worth your membership to get in one super clever, ultra spiteful little jab? Think twice, post once. Johnny Guest TFL Staff Moderator, NFA Guns and Gear forum

July 22, 2008, 07:10 PM	#177
ZeroJunk Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Location: Browns Summit NC Posts: 2,589	I guess as the young graduate from video games to real weapons their taste will be more influenced by what they think is cool looking. I am just behind the times. Perhaps it will eventually dawn on you that thinking silencers are unnecessary has absolutely nothing to do with supporting gun control. If you want to enhance the perception of gun owners try learning how to spell, leave out the invectives, explain your position without any name calling like scum, moronic, etc. and you will be more successful in your cause.

July 22, 2008, 08:29 PM	#182
Shempf Junior Member Join Date: November 4, 2006 Posts: 10	"Hollywood has made this one out to be a bad guys weapon of choice." This reminded me when I did a research paper on the effects of media and it's portrayal of information and it's altering psychological effects on children through adults. Very interesting to learn how it shapes so many people. It even helped me to view my ways and why certain aspects may be what they are. Hence why media is BIG money. People believe.

July 22, 2008, 08:53 PM	#184
ZeroJunk Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Location: Browns Summit NC Posts: 2,589	I can't tell you how much safer I feel that our gun rights are in good hands

July 22, 2008, 09:34 PM	#187
Hugh G Rection Junior member Join Date: July 20, 2008 Posts: 9	Treat Harry Boner better? HArry Boner got what he deserved . . . he deserved to be Zumbo'd and he was. 2008 is a NO SHRUG year and we aren't going to simply sit back like we did in 1994, shrug our shoulders . . . and allow anti gun rights douchebags to remain in our midst without complete and total exposure.