What to do with a Hi-Point? - Page 3

Metric · March 11, 2018, 11:24 AM

I would test for reliability, and then consider the possibility of placing it in a sealed container with a box of ammo and burying in the desert (at a carefully chosen location), and saving the GPS coordinates in an encrypted file. An insurance policy that beats destroying the thing, imo.

kymasabe · March 11, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by osbornk

They have been fine and I now have 3 Taurus.

Wouldn't more than one be classified as Tauri ??

kymasabe · March 11, 2018, 11:43 AM

All I know about Hi-Point is that most people hate them, they're ugly as all heck, they're heavy as a brick, and....they work. As much as I hate to admit it, everyone I know who has one says they're pretty damn reliable. they make good boat guns, truck guns, cabin guns, etc. I wouldn't want to carry one and perfer to trust my life to something a little better but, it sure beats a sharp stick and I hear customer service at hi-point isn't horrible (unlike Taurus...see my post on the now 12 week wait for repair on brand new TCP) so, if you have one, might as well keep it.

Cheapshooter · March 12, 2018, 08:30 AM

Keep it, and shoot it. You might be surprised how accurate, reliable, and fun to shoot it really is!

Carl the Floor Walker · March 12, 2018, 08:56 AM

I think it is interesting how many "Budget" guns are coming out. When all along the Hi-point has been available. Many say it is ugly, but the more you look at it, you can see the functionality of it. Yes, maybe top heavy, but you look at the amount of recoil in the 9mm. It is really LOW. Genitron list it as below'

Also, as Cheapshooter said, the metal alloy might be different. But from what I have read, it has steel inserts. Which IMO should be on any good gun.
Given the comparison of the two and price. I would choose the Hi-point over the Ruger.

Cheapshooter · March 12, 2018, 10:25 AM

All I know about Hi-Point is that most people who have never fired or owned one hate them.
There, fixed it for you!

Carl the Floor Walker · March 12, 2018, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheapshooter

All I know about Hi-Point is that most people who have never fired or owned one hate them.
There, fixed it for you!

Seems to be true with a lot of internet folks. Especially newbies. Sort of like Sheepal politics, or CNN propaganda. They listen to a lot of garbage from people that know knowing and start believing it. Or just hear what they want to hear. The good news, is that all the bashing, actually has made me learn more about the gun and the more I actually learn, the more it sounds appealing.
And who cares about a pretty truck gun in the first place?

Cheapshooter · March 12, 2018, 11:32 AM

Hi Point C9-$159.99
Box of cheap range ammo-$9.95
An hour of range time-$17
The look on the face of the guy in the next lane when he realizes you are out shooting his Glock.
PRICELESS!

Cheapshooter · March 12, 2018, 02:02 PM

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Fishbed77 · March 12, 2018, 03:07 PM

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People are on the other forums bragging about some of the Budget guns available. Yet this budget gun is out there has been and even cost less.

The Hi-Point is certainly cheap, but there are other factors at play, even for budget guns. Many of the other budget options out there are superior in terms of capacity, ease of maintenance, and ergonomics, and those factors are worth a little more money to many folks.

Everything is a trade-off.

JoeSixpack · March 12, 2018, 03:32 PM

There are definitely nicer guns out there for a little more money, especially with market slump (Honestly I don't think of it as a slump but rather a return to normal, The gun bubble popped) Im seeing some nice guns in the 2-300 dollar range these days and some even sub 200

However if all you have is 100-125 to spend I don't think you can get a better handgun then a hi-point.
IF YOU DO have say an extra 100 to spend I would not recommend a hi-point as your only gun.

GarandTd · March 12, 2018, 03:52 PM

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Especially newbies

I disagree mostly with this. I actually think it's the opposite.

Cheapshooter · March 12, 2018, 04:39 PM

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Many of the other budget options out there are superior in terms of capacity, ease of maintenance, and ergonomics,

Well, you get one right at least. There are low cost pistols with higher capacity. Ease of maintenance? Ya can't get much easier than wipe it down, and brush the bore(if you want to). No need to take anything apart. In fact it isn't even recomended by the manufacturer. Just shoot it for around 5-6K rounds, and if it quits working send it back for a rebuild, or new gun.
Everybody doesn't have the same "feel" for ergonomics in a gun. But I find the Hi Point quite comfortable to hold.

5whiskey · March 12, 2018, 07:31 PM

As many have said, the pistol is safe and it will fire accurate and reliable enough to be a HD pistol (assuming its not a lemon, and then they have a great warranty). There are better options when you get into the 200+ dollar range, but you can't beat a hi-point for working class folk who need a reliable defense arm for a little money. It isn't pretty, it isn't a concealed carry piece, and it is low capacity (especially given its size).

At any rate I digress. I like the suggestion of finding someone who is in need of a SD pistol and giving it away or selling it cheap if you're sure you don't want it. There are good single parents who live in rough neighborhoods that could use a defensive arm. Make sure you remember who bought it,write their name and license number down. Some may frown upon requiring ID for a private sale, but it helps ensure that we meet the one legal requirement we have... Confirming that the person lives in your state.

Carl the Floor Walker · March 12, 2018, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheapshooter

Well, you get one right at least. There are low cost pistols with higher capacity. Ease of maintenance? Ya can't get much easier than wipe it down, and brush the bore(if you want to). No need to take anything apart. In fact it isn't even recomended by the manufacturer. Just shoot it for around 5-6K rounds, and if it quits working send it back for a rebuild, or new gun.
Everybody doesn't have the same "feel" for ergonomics in a gun. But I find the Hi Point quite comfortable to hold.

That is so true about personal ergonomics. Hi-point has been making this design for a long time. Something must be right. If I had not already purchased three guns in the past two months, I would get one.

JoeSixpack · March 12, 2018, 08:14 PM

Honestly the ergonomics of the c9 I have is not bad at all, I mean it looks funky but it fits my hand pretty well.. the grips are kinda slick on it though.

It actually points really well for me, and the sights aren't half bad.

I remember when I first got mine I could not keep it on paper at 25 feet using the sights.. ya they was THAT far off, Apparently no one at the factory bothered to even roughly sight the gun in.

Point shooting it did well, I didn't have a screw driver with me to tweak the sights.

I had a new shooter with me, I had a S&W 22a, Taurus 92, Taurus Tracker and the C9.. she actually like the c9 best and mind you the sights was way off on it, but she somehow kept it on paper

xcc_rider · March 12, 2018, 08:43 PM

I didn't like the feel of the Hi-Point when I tried one so I didn't buy one. I did buy a Hi-point carbine tho based on their handgun reputation for reliability and I love it. It's a tad on the heavy side, not the prettiest girl on the block but is extremely reliable and accurate for the price.
Some will say it doesn't have enough mag capacity but here on the left coast were limited to 10 round mags anyways.

If I were looking for an inexpensive truck gun or stash gun for SD it would definitely be a Hi-point.

Carl the Floor Walker · March 13, 2018, 04:25 AM

People will call a gun ugly and disparage it all over the internet. Any one shot the ugly Chiapa Rhino? Lol, the gun shoots 357 like a weak 38 load and 6 rounds. I would love to own that UGLY gun.

Fishbed77 · March 13, 2018, 09:22 AM

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No need to take anything apart. In fact it isn't even recomended by the manufacturer. Just shoot it for around 5-6K rounds, and if it quits working send it back for a rebuild, or new gun.

Like I said. Ease of maintenance.

Many pistols don't need to be sent back to the manufacturer to be cleaned and maintained after a few thousand rounds.

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Everybody doesn't have the same "feel" for ergonomics in a gun. But I find the Hi Point quite comfortable to hold.

Perhaps comfortable to hold, but also more difficult to carry than many other designs.

Cheapshooter · March 13, 2018, 11:51 AM

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Many pistols don't need to be sent back to the manufacturer to be cleaned and maintained after a few thousand rounds.

And those companies would charge you an arm and a leg to even look at one of their guns.

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Perhaps comfortable to hold, but also more difficult to carry than many other designs.

LOL, who carries a Hi Point?

Fishbed77 · March 13, 2018, 12:20 PM

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And those companies would charge you an arm and a leg to even look at one of their guns.

Let me get this right? You would prefer going through the hassle to send back a gun to a manufacturer after a few thousand rounds (and be without the gun for a length of time) than be able to easily service it yourself? OK. Whatever works for you.

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LOL, who carries a Hi Point?

If it is truly the only gun you can afford, and you need a gun for carry, I suppose that's exactly what you will do.

Which goes right back to my comment that certain "factors are worth a little more money to many folks." A comment that you yourself refuted.

Cheapshooter · March 13, 2018, 12:57 PM

For the owner of a Hi Point, 6,000 rounds is a lot more than a "few". Probably more than a lifetime's worth. So it would more than likely never go back. Even the 6,000 rounds is most likely less than what it would take for a "dirty gun" malfunction. That's considering not cleaning it at
But with a very simple cleaning without disassembly I am sure neither of mine will ever be sent back.

Cheapshooter · March 13, 2018, 01:17 PM

The "who carries a Hi Point" was a joke. Based on the common misconception that they are to large to conceal.
They are not, evidenced here by my C9 "hiding" benieth my EDC Springfield XD40 Sub Compact.
BTW, notice the very similar "ergonomics"

Carl the Floor Walker · March 13, 2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheapshooter

The "who carries a Hi Point" was a joke. Based on the common misconception that they are to large to conceal.
They are not, evidenced here by my C9 "hiding" benieth my EDC Springfield XD40 Sub Compact.
BTW, notice the very similar "ergonomics"

Actually looking better and better every day. Thanks for posting. My local range has a program that if you buy a gun from them, they give you a larger percentage off the yearly membership. Purchasing the Hi-point may be a deal. I did the same thing many years ago, when I purchased my first Phoenix HPA. Turned out to be one hell of a deal. And still shooting that gun with thousands of rounds down range. A great trainer for my short barrel pistols.
Thanks for posting.

Fishbed77 · March 13, 2018, 05:08 PM

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For the owner of a Hi Point, 6,000 rounds is a lot more than a "few". Probably more than a lifetime's worth.

I won't dispute that.

You seem to think I'm anti-Hi-Point or anti-cheap-gun. I am most certainly not. I am merely pointing out that it is possible to get some really nice (or at least more desirable to many) pistols for just a little more money than a Hi-Point.

How do I know? My m.o. lately has been to prowl around for the cheapest, ugliest functioning examples of pistols I desire and have made a hobby of cleaning/fixing them up on the cheap as a bit of a hobby.

There are also so very nice new options these days for very cheap. I was able to pick up a brand new M&P Shield for $215 (after rebate) last year.

March 11, 2018, 11:43 AM	#53
kymasabe Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2005 Location: SW Florida Posts: 2,747	All I know about Hi-Point is that most people hate them, they're ugly as all heck, they're heavy as a brick, and....they work. As much as I hate to admit it, everyone I know who has one says they're pretty damn reliable. they make good boat guns, truck guns, cabin guns, etc. I wouldn't want to carry one and perfer to trust my life to something a little better but, it sure beats a sharp stick and I hear customer service at hi-point isn't horrible (unlike Taurus...see my post on the now 12 week wait for repair on brand new TCP) so, if you have one, might as well keep it. __________________ God's creatures big and small, eat them one, eat them all.

March 12, 2018, 08:30 AM	#54
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Keep it, and shoot it. You might be surprised how accurate, reliable, and fun to shoot it really is! __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

March 12, 2018, 10:25 AM	#56
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	All I know about Hi-Point is that most people who have never fired or owned one hate them. There, fixed it for you! __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

March 12, 2018, 11:32 AM	#58
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Hi Point C9-$159.99 Box of cheap range ammo-$9.95 An hour of range time-$17 The look on the face of the guy in the next lane when he realizes you are out shooting his Glock. PRICELESS! __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

March 12, 2018, 02:02 PM	#59
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	Deleted-duplicate post __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING! Last edited by Cheapshooter; March 12, 2018 at 02:14 PM.

March 11, 2018, 11:24 AM	#51
Metric Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2016 Posts: 339	I would test for reliability, and then consider the possibility of placing it in a sealed container with a box of ammo and burying in the desert (at a carefully chosen location), and saving the GPS coordinates in an encrypted file. An insurance policy that beats destroying the thing, imo.

March 12, 2018, 08:56 AM	#55
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	I think it is interesting how many "Budget" guns are coming out. When all along the Hi-point has been available. Many say it is ugly, but the more you look at it, you can see the functionality of it. Yes, maybe top heavy, but you look at the amount of recoil in the 9mm. It is really LOW. Genitron list it as below' Also, as Cheapshooter said, the metal alloy might be different. But from what I have read, it has steel inserts. Which IMO should be on any good gun. Given the comparison of the two and price. I would choose the Hi-point over the Ruger.

March 12, 2018, 03:32 PM	#61
JoeSixpack Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,048	There are definitely nicer guns out there for a little more money, especially with market slump (Honestly I don't think of it as a slump but rather a return to normal, The gun bubble popped) Im seeing some nice guns in the 2-300 dollar range these days and some even sub 200 However if all you have is 100-125 to spend I don't think you can get a better handgun then a hi-point. IF YOU DO have say an extra 100 to spend I would not recommend a hi-point as your only gun. __________________ NRA sold us out This is America!, You have the right to be stupid.

March 12, 2018, 07:31 PM	#64
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,652	As many have said, the pistol is safe and it will fire accurate and reliable enough to be a HD pistol (assuming its not a lemon, and then they have a great warranty). There are better options when you get into the 200+ dollar range, but you can't beat a hi-point for working class folk who need a reliable defense arm for a little money. It isn't pretty, it isn't a concealed carry piece, and it is low capacity (especially given its size). At any rate I digress. I like the suggestion of finding someone who is in need of a SD pistol and giving it away or selling it cheap if you're sure you don't want it. There are good single parents who live in rough neighborhoods that could use a defensive arm. Make sure you remember who bought it,write their name and license number down. Some may frown upon requiring ID for a private sale, but it helps ensure that we meet the one legal requirement we have... Confirming that the person lives in your state. __________________ Support the NRA-ILA Auction, ends 03/09/2018 https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=593946

March 12, 2018, 08:14 PM	#66
JoeSixpack Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2017 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,048	Honestly the ergonomics of the c9 I have is not bad at all, I mean it looks funky but it fits my hand pretty well.. the grips are kinda slick on it though. It actually points really well for me, and the sights aren't half bad. I remember when I first got mine I could not keep it on paper at 25 feet using the sights.. ya they was THAT far off, Apparently no one at the factory bothered to even roughly sight the gun in. Point shooting it did well, I didn't have a screw driver with me to tweak the sights. I had a new shooter with me, I had a S&W 22a, Taurus 92, Taurus Tracker and the C9.. she actually like the c9 best and mind you the sights was way off on it, but she somehow kept it on paper __________________ NRA sold us out This is America!, You have the right to be stupid.

March 12, 2018, 08:43 PM	#67
xcc_rider Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2016 Posts: 169	I didn't like the feel of the Hi-Point when I tried one so I didn't buy one. I did buy a Hi-point carbine tho based on their handgun reputation for reliability and I love it. It's a tad on the heavy side, not the prettiest girl on the block but is extremely reliable and accurate for the price. Some will say it doesn't have enough mag capacity but here on the left coast were limited to 10 round mags anyways. If I were looking for an inexpensive truck gun or stash gun for SD it would definitely be a Hi-point.

March 13, 2018, 04:25 AM	#68
Carl the Floor Walker member Join Date: June 3, 2017 Location: South Posts: 1,422	People will call a gun ugly and disparage it all over the internet. Any one shot the ugly Chiapa Rhino? Lol, the gun shoots 357 like a weak 38 load and 6 rounds. I would love to own that UGLY gun.

March 13, 2018, 12:57 PM	#72
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	For the owner of a Hi Point, 6,000 rounds is a lot more than a "few". Probably more than a lifetime's worth. So it would more than likely never go back. Even the 6,000 rounds is most likely less than what it would take for a "dirty gun" malfunction. That's considering not cleaning it at But with a very simple cleaning without disassembly I am sure neither of mine will ever be sent back. __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!

March 13, 2018, 01:17 PM	#73
Cheapshooter Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 8,306	The "who carries a Hi Point" was a joke. Based on the common misconception that they are to large to conceal. They are not, evidenced here by my C9 "hiding" benieth my EDC Springfield XD40 Sub Compact. BTW, notice the very similar "ergonomics" __________________ Cheapshooter's rules of gun ownership #1: NEVER SELL OR TRADE ANYTHING!