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June 23, 2017, 03:34 AM | #26 |
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CZs are great
If a 550 tickles your fancy in 30-06 then buy one. You can always add another rifle later. While it may not be a light kicker it's not much different than a 308. You can do a lot worse than a CZ in terms of performance while you can find cheaper alternatives, few will be as classy as a full stock CZ.
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June 23, 2017, 07:18 AM | #27 |
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The .243 Win is a cartridge that I never used until I wanted to re-barrel a seldom-used .22-250 Rem 700 that was once used for woodchuck hunting and turkey shoots, but needed to find a rifle for grand-kids to use for deer hunting.
After getting the now .243 Win rifle back, I used it for coyote hunting. I'm very impressed with its power and accuracy with minimal recoil. I liked it so much, I bought a Tikka T3 Lite in that chambering and absolutely LOVE the rifle and the .243 cartridge. So far, the two .243s I have killed 6 deer in 4 years, including a nice buck I got with the T3 at 200 yards, when carrying my pop-up blind up to our regular stand a couple years ago for the kids to use. I'm using handloads and been using Hornady GMAX bullets in three cartridges. They've worked especially well in the .243 Win. |
June 24, 2017, 03:45 PM | #28 |
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If deer are the largest thing you'll be hunting then I'd definitely get the .243 as others have suggested. Mostly because it's more fun shooting a gun with lower recoil.
For game or varmints smaller than deer many hunters would agree a smaller caliber than .30 or even .270 would be more "appropriate". (But this statement could cause a minor caliber war so disregard it. ) One thing you should be aware of is that CZ puts 'set triggers' on a lot of their rifles. On their models with this feature if you do a normal trigger pull you get a normal trigger pull weight BUT if you first push the trigger FORWARD you engage the "set trigger" feature and then the trigger will break at a MUCH lighter pull weight when you pull it. Neat for target shooting and if you have the time and inclination to make a really accurate shot while hunting. CZ is one of the few manufacturers I know of that routinely puts this feature on there rifles. I suspect others don't because of liability issues. |
June 25, 2017, 02:21 AM | #29 | |
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One sometimes sees rifles with two triggers (even muzzleloaders), most often European. These are called Double Set Triggers. Front trigger, normal pull (pounds), pulling the rear trigger "sets" the front trigger to fire with a pull weight of ounces. (aka "hair trigger")
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June 25, 2017, 02:57 AM | #30 |
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Another vote for a modest caliber and be wary of the '06, especially in a carbine like the light, short CZ550 Bavarian. Certainly a quality item, to last your lifetime, your kids and grandkids too. But blast, flash and recoil, real or perceived, is pretty high in a short light '06. I've got a similar rifle in '06, and do not run it full power, it's just too darn obnoxious. And I've learned I don't really have to, as it kills just fine running about .300 Savage levels. As noted by others, the jump from a .22 to '06 is pretty dramatic, and in the carbine, even more so. I don't see '06 as a training or paper punching round for the most part either , high power match shooting excluded.
For punching paper now, and maybe deer in the future, and you are truly limited to one centerfire rifle, I would agree with the other recommendations of .243. However, let me add that a bolt .223 is a great step up from .22 lr as a trainer, and ammo is plentiful and comparitivly affordable. There are a lot of price point .223 bolt rifles on the market these days that can give you centerfire practice and ballistics, without high cost, recoil and blast. You will be able to shoot a bunch of .223 for the cost of a good deal less amount of '06 ......or........ .243 for that matter. But I do not see the .223 as an ideal deer round.......which means you would need a heavier game rifle if the opportunity develops for you to hunt. |
June 27, 2017, 03:35 PM | #31 |
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Thanks again for the replies everyone. I never expected to get this kind of response with so much helpful information. I will be sure to keep everyone posted, and of course post some pictures of what ever I end up with!
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June 27, 2017, 03:45 PM | #32 |
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I too like the CZ. If I was not shooting so much I would have kept trying to get a heavy barrel one.
They tend to be more accurate than the norm. The ones we get do not have the trigger set. They do offer that in Europe as well as dual trigger. If its just deer, 243 or a 6.5 would do great. |
June 27, 2017, 04:19 PM | #33 |
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The CZ 550 with the Turkish Walnut, Mannlicher-Style stock is a sweet rifle and a real nice classic hunting rifle. Were I to get one I would consider the rifle in 6.5 X 55 Swede or the 308 Winchester cartridge. Either is a fine cartridge for deer size game with the .308 likely offering a wider selection of bullets. There are other fine rifles as mentioned but the walnut is exceptionally pretty lending itself to a classic look. The CZ 550 has other caliber offerings to choose from including 30-06 Springfield, 270 Winchester, 243 Winchester and the 9.3 X 62mm. I just happen to like the 6.5 X 55mm Swede and the .308 Winchester.
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July 8, 2017, 12:59 PM | #34 |
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Tikka T3 hunter. Check out eurooptics as the T3x is generation 2 and the original t3 is now heavily discounted and upgrades are minimal at best. I bought a 338 win mag for myself and a 300 win mag for my son. Most accurate rifle I've ever owned. I've got the 338 clover leafing at 100 yards. Bought both for $519 each. Free shipping. eurooptics.com.
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July 8, 2017, 01:21 PM | #35 |
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I have CZ 550 FS in .308. It's a good shooter. I love the looks also.
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July 8, 2017, 01:58 PM | #36 |
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while I don't have one yet, I would pick up a browning xbolt in 308. almost in the same class as the 06 with velocity and energy, with less recoil, Ive handled a few at gander and fleetfarm and like the way they shoulder. 308 ammo can be bought anywhere and with todays premium ammo there is nothing in north America you couldn't hunt, even African plains game.
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July 26, 2017, 05:05 PM | #37 |
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You did not say what you wanted to do with the rifle, so if you are looking for accuracy without as much recoil and report as 30-06 or .308 can produce, consider a .223 Rem, if that caliber is offered in the model you like. You can get excellent accuracy from this caliber if you don't take it out too far, and you won't come home with a sore shoulder or dirty looks from your neighbors at the range . It's also an affordable caliber to reload, and once you dial in a load that consistently performs, it's just fun! Good luck.
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July 26, 2017, 06:00 PM | #38 |
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What about the AR-15 platform? Ammo is considerably cheaper and much more fun to "plink" with. You can always get a conversion top to .22 LR for cheap plinking or possibly going with 6.8 for hunting. Make sure you check the laws and get some capped off mags. ARs are great for a first rifle.
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July 26, 2017, 08:16 PM | #39 |
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The 550 is a long action gun. CZ played games with the magazine to chamber in a shorter cartridge like the 243 (I owned one). It's pretty easy to short stroke the action and not load another round. If you go the 550 Full Stock route make sure you get one chambered for the long action 30-06 etc. I keep telling myself I will get another one some day in 9.3 x 62. One of the other members commented about using it on the bench. Not the best choice for that but it is a super design for field use and the iron sights that come on the gun work well.
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July 26, 2017, 11:10 PM | #40 |
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Barrett M98B .338 Laupa Magnum, Badger Rings, 8x32 Schmidt and Bender Scope, Atlas Bipod, and 500 rounds of 300 Grain Sierra match kings.....then the OP is ready for deer at 100 yards and casual plinking.
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July 27, 2017, 07:04 AM | #41 |
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Just my 2 cents opinion.
If your intentions are to hunt deer size animals. Any rifle caliber above 6MM /24 cal is adequate. For target shooting and varmints hunts 6mm/24 cal and smaller cartridges are appropriate. As you can see OP I place the 243 in the column of marginals for Big Game use. Reason being there is little too no room for shot error with this cartridge. {243 bullet placement is paramount.} Anything less the animal is likely terminally wounded having little to no chance for recovery which a hunter truly wants. But unknown to the 243s shooter its suggested 100 gr hunting bullet create such a small wound channel that following so little blood splatter is tough to do. {even for the most seasoned trackers} 243 shot animals. I guarantee any wounding recovery involving a 243 use will surely be a much longer and tedious tracking hike than expected. Buy that 06 or 308 or better a 270. Your never regret their purchases. 243s purchase you just might over time. |
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