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August 23, 2010, 05:29 PM | #3276 |
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"S" prefix serial numbers were used on K-frames for a very short period immediately following WW2 - they ran from S811120 in 1945 (SCSW quotes but apparently disagrees with another source claiming S769000 in 1944) to S999999 in 1948, so your .38 M&P (pre-10) dates from that time span. "S" models in very good or better condition are said to bring a 25% premium over their non-"S" counterparts. Based on the SN, your gun was made around the time that S&W was switching to the short action and new hammer profile and the book also mentions a premium for these so-called transitional models.
Numbers in various places that are obviously not the SN are called "assembly numbers" and are used to keep track of fitted parts during the manufacturing process. They have no further significance. |
August 24, 2010, 10:37 PM | #3277 |
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Model 29-2
I have a Pinned and Recessed 6" Mod. 29-2 .44 Mag which I received from my dad, and I'd like to figure out the DOB (as close as possible) of this 'big iron'.
S/N: N8171XX Crane Assembly #:42996 This thing is just beautiful, I have to see if I can scare up a camera for some shots. The bluing is about as close to perfect as I've seen on a used, and I know for a fact it's original. It maintains the original checkered wood stock, and it's dead acc-u-rate. What more can you say, it's a Smith. I'd appreciate any help, and I'd be glad to offer any more info. necessary. ~Smokey |
August 25, 2010, 07:49 AM | #3278 |
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Smokey: Somewhere between 1980 (start at SN N790001) and 1983 (end at N932999), and they dropped P&R ~1982, so '83 is out. I'd say 1980 is most likely, but that's just an estimate based on interpolation. Beautiful guns - I have N314XXX, 8-3/8", from 1975.
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August 28, 2010, 09:20 AM | #3279 |
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Model 38 Bodyguard
Can you give be a DOB and any other interesting points on my S&W Model 38 (no dash) Bodyguard, 38 special, 5 shot, nichel finish, serial - J963*** ?
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August 28, 2010, 09:51 AM | #3280 | |
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August 28, 2010, 11:06 AM | #3281 |
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Model 38 Bodyguard
Yes, it must be an M38. I forgot to mention it does say Airweight on the barrel. It is not pinned.
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August 28, 2010, 07:45 PM | #3282 |
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Hey guys, i just bought a Never-Been-Shot little model 36, .38special, j-frame snubby
I know this is the first question most folk ask, but i cannot find an online version of "The Standard Cat. of S &W" so here goes: Please help me date this haha! number on bottom of the grip says: J714xx number on the thin part at the bottom front part of cylinder: 179xx says M-36 on frame when you pop out the cylinder so i have a vague idea of its age but "M-36" not much to go by Im very excited about it though. I took it to the range today and pumped out 50 rounds of standard AGUILA .38 special sjhp 158gr Really fun to shoot btw! |
August 28, 2010, 09:02 PM | #3283 |
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the_collector: J714xx would be 1969 (starting at J1) to 1970 (ending at J99999) - so probably 1970. Really unfired? I would have been tempted to leave it that way, but S&W made it to be used so I'm glad it's getting a chance to do what it was made for.
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August 28, 2010, 11:04 PM | #3284 |
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Unfortunately, (as my name might imply) I am not a gun collector.
So i have no idea what the gun is worth... My Grandfather is/was the original purchaser of this gun...so i assume back in '79 haha I wasnt even born then. He found it when he was going through some things and he had forgotten about it. He told me that he had carried it before, but had never fired it, i dont really know why you wouldnt fire a gun you were "packing" seems a little dumb if you ask me. But its in good shape now...at least as far as i can tell, i do plan on carrying it. I'l post some pics of it. Although it has now shot 52 rounds, what do you all think it might be worth? I have NO idea. And thank you very much for the info Flyfish I dont thing the pics really do it justice. Theyre a tad bit dark. Anyways, ill try to get more |
August 29, 2010, 07:58 AM | #3285 | |
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August 29, 2010, 12:07 PM | #3286 |
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Thanks for the reply. I didnt think it would be worth a whole lot but $500 is more than i was expecting.
I dont plan on selling it! Its going to stay in the family, as it is worth a lot sentimentally. Thank you again Flyfish, im looking forward to reading/posting more on the forum |
August 30, 2010, 12:09 PM | #3287 |
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Smith and Wesson Mystery
A friend of mine has a chromed Smith and Wesson revolver which I believe is a model 60, 38 special.
The serial number on the bottom of the handle frame is: WBLP15xx. I understand that S&W doesn't make 8 digit serial #'s. The S&W logo is clearly stamped on the side, so I know it's authentic. Any ideas? Did somebody add their initials to the Serial #? Could the true serial # be P15xx? Thanks! |
August 30, 2010, 01:43 PM | #3288 |
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A mystery indeed. The Model 60 is a stainless gun, so wouldn't be "chromed" though it could have been polished to look like it (while I suppose it would be possible to have a gun chrome plated, nickel is the material usually used - not on stainless, of course, and S&W doesn't chrome plate guns at the factory). Modern S&W serial numbers are of the form AAAXXXX, where the "A"s are letters and the "X"s are numerals, so "WBLP" is not a correct prefix and although they used to use various single-letter prefixes over the years, "P" is not one of them.
S&W made many special runs of various models , usually for law enforcement organizations, and stamped them to indicate such, e.g., "CRPD" for the Conrail Police Dept., "PXPD" for the Phoenix (AZ) Police Dept., etc.), but these stampings were on the side and not incorporated into the serial number. There is no mention of a "WBLP" special run in SCSW. "BLP15XX" would be a valid serial number, from around 1992-93, but that means the "W" would have been added. I would think it would be relatively easy to determine if that's the case. I'd also think that BATFE would consider that to be defacing the serial number, with all the potential pain that could bring to the owner, regardless of who did the defacing. The Model 60 was introduced nearly a decade after S&W started assigning numbers rather than names to its guns, so the model number should be clearly stamped inside the yoke cutout. |
August 31, 2010, 07:33 AM | #3289 |
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I inherited a Model 37 from my grandfather. It was his carry gun after he was promoted to Detective.
SN 739Jxx Would love to know around the time this gun was made and any other info someone can give. Thanks |
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August 31, 2010, 08:27 AM | #3291 |
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Thanks for the info Flyfish.
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August 31, 2010, 09:08 AM | #3292 |
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Thanks for the info flyfish! I will check inside the frame.
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August 31, 2010, 09:13 AM | #3293 |
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Standard Catalogue
The book is a trove of good info on anything S&W ever made.There is one for Colt also.The serial # info is also in the Colt catalogue.
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August 31, 2010, 05:59 PM | #3294 |
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S&W production date
I recently bought a S&W .38 special revolver from a friend and i would like to know its age. double action, blued, 6" bbl, there are no model numbers on it serial number is 4444XX
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August 31, 2010, 10:02 PM | #3295 |
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Not a revolver but can anyone give me some pointers on a year for a 4506 with prefix TDN or VJL?
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September 1, 2010, 07:40 AM | #3297 |
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Anyone have a manufacture year/month for a nearly new Model 22-4, serial #DAY85xx? My SCSW is too old to list it.
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September 1, 2010, 03:42 PM | #3299 |
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Hey guys. I have owned a model 29 for about 25 years and am looking for age as I pass on to other family members. It's a model 29-2 with the 8-3/8 barrel, pinned and recessed with the target hammer and trigger. Serial starts as N498xxx. Any help is greatly appreciated about this soon to be family heirloom.
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September 1, 2010, 05:41 PM | #3300 |
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knightsh: Your 29-2 dates from 1978. I have one exactly like it, just a few years older, N314xxx from 1975. They really are magnificent guns.
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