March 10, 2013, 07:35 PM | #26 |
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A tax deduction declares you own guns - registration - don't you think?
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Just another way to invite more 'big brother' into your life.
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Seriously, I think gun ownership should always be an individual's choice and not mandated by anyone else. I kind of like the idea that they are trying to go the opposite direction of gun banners, but to require gun ownership is just as wrong as denying it.
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I do not think that mandating gun ownership is a good idea. I think the RKBA also carries a right to not keep or bear arms, just as the right to free speech includes a right to not speak.
Tax credit . . . gee, however will the IRS decide whether someone is qualified? Oh, yeah, by requiring a list of firearms, complete with make, model and serial number.
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As I type this the Town of Byron here in Maine is having a town meeting and a town article making gun and ammo ownership mandatory is one of the things being voted on. Of course most stuff like this is symbolic only. My personal feelings are that the government (Federal, state or local) should stay out of citizen's personal lives. We should be able to own or not own what we want in our homes.
Here's the link: http://www.wcsh6.com/news/article/23...ship-mandatory |
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I just finished looking up the one actually on the books in Kennesaw, BBQBob. It looks functionally the same as the one currently proposed by Nelson, the town in this post. In fact, given the quote in the linked article, I'd guess it was more than "modeled on" Kennesaw's ordinance, and it's just flat-out plagiarized.
If you actually read Kennesaw 34-22 It's symbolic. I'm not particularly fond of it, but I disagree with "requires all households to have a gun" as much as I disagree with "No politician wants to take away your guns" - quotes from Cuomo and Feinstein belie the second statement, and the actual law belies the first. You must have a gun. Unless you're not allowed to have a gun. Or can't afford a gun. Or just plain don't like guns. This does not mandate gun ownership, it's symbolic. And as one lawmaker said, it's a lot like sticking a Protected by ADT sign in every yard. You know some of them are accurate, but you don't know which ones. |
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Sorry for being a newb / clueless, but lots of things disclose the fact you own a gun
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Oops? I readily admit you guys probably know much more about these topics than me. You have been in the trenches (as it were) for many years and here is Pigcheese, he just showed up and has an opinion. Please correct me if I am wrong. But if I have a CCW permit, the gubmint already knows I am packing. What difference does a tax deduction make? Plus you don't have to claim it. It is optional. I realize their are real problems with using the tax code to encourage gun ownership, but I don't think universal registration is one of them. Any legislature with the cajones to enact a tax deduction for gun ownership would never touch registration. Nevertheless, given the feedback here, I will table the proposal. Thank you for your comments.
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Well, if you purchase through an FFL the records stay local with the FFL - unless they go out of business.
Of course, there are ways to trace and keep records. However, we don't need an IRS record.
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For me, this is lowly, disgraceful, this is a page from the lib's book. This is the same thinking they use and like. It's all about manipulating the system to their own benefit at others' expense to achieve their social utopia. It's just like the cigarette taxes. They raised the taxes and raised them until people couldn't afford to smoke. "The money will be used for the victims of smoking", that didn't happen, that money went everywhere but to help smokers. The ends justify the means. Now it's guns they are talking about taxing. This idea is simply fighting fire with fire, but this kind of fire burns bad and it never does anything good. no matter how you justify it it's wrong. Taxation is not a social engineering tool
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