Legality of Mech Tech upper for Glock - Page 3

C0untZer0 · July 25, 2011, 07:43 PM

Thank goodness we have a BATFE to mull over these complex matters and clarify things for us...

rjrivero · August 4, 2011, 09:54 PM

Well, looky here. The ATF has again contradicted itself and is now allowing a pistol to be converted to a rifle and back to a pistol. Mech Tech is legal.
LINK HERE.

Powderman · August 5, 2011, 03:05 AM

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Powderman,

I highly suggest you talk to the "home office." Call the ATF-NFA branch, Technologies division. Let me know what they tell you. If you want to know about the NFA rules, call the NFA. You're local branch office isn't the correct "source."

If you will take a letter as "proof" perhaps a conversation with the folks who WRITE the letters will suffice?

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Well, looky here. The ATF has again contradicted itself and is now allowing a pistol to be converted to a rifle and back to a pistol. Mech Tech is legal.

As I mentioned a few posts and pages ago.....

Skans · August 5, 2011, 08:28 AM

What's the difference between the Mech Tech kit and a barreled carbine upper receiver for a Mac10? There has never been any problem taking a Mac10 pistol and using the pistol receiver on a carbine kit. However, you cannot take a Mac10 Carbine (very few made) and LEGALLY put a pistol upper receiver on it.

PTK · August 5, 2011, 10:27 AM

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As I mentioned a few posts and pages ago.....

...really. Your last post in this thread was in January.

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Originally Posted by ATF

Date approved: July 25, 2011

So you can travel in time? What's your secret?

dogtown tom · August 5, 2011, 08:28 PM

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Powderman....As I mentioned a few posts and pages ago.....

Well.........a few posts and pages ago you were flat, dead wrong about the MechTech and it's use.

The ATF about face happened this week, not in January. If you read the ruling http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulin...ing-2011-4.pdf you will note that EVERYTHING you were told in this thread was accurate.

2ndChildhood · October 27, 2011, 09:07 AM

Hello all - Powderman has it right and here is the definitive proof:
http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulin...ing-2011-4.pdf
(see bottom of last page)
Also in the Nov 2011 issue of American Rifleman (page 90 - ILA column) we have this excerpt:
"The ruling also states that a pistol can be made into a rifle (for example by adding a long barrel and a shoulder stock), and then turned back into a pistol, without making an NFA 'firearm' "
Also - this info is now posted on the Mech Tech forum:
http://mechtechsys.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=431

dogtown tom · October 27, 2011, 09:40 AM

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2ndChildhood Hello all - Powderman has it right...

Nope.

When Powderman first posted in this thread he was wrong.
ATF did not reverse their opinion until August 4th, 2011.

If you'll read my post directly above yours you'll see where the link to ATF's new ruling was posted the same day it appeared on the ATF website.

Powderman · October 27, 2011, 12:22 PM

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Hello all - Powderman has it right and here is the definitive proof:
http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulin...ing-2011-4.pdf
(see bottom of last page)
Also in the Nov 2011 issue of American Rifleman (page 90 - ILA column) we have this excerpt:
"The ruling also states that a pistol can be made into a rifle (for example by adding a long barrel and a shoulder stock), and then turned back into a pistol, without making an NFA 'firearm' "
Also - this info is now posted on the Mech Tech forum:
http://mechtechsys.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=431

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When Powderman first posted in this thread he was wrong.
ATF did not reverse their opinion until August 4th, 2011.

No, 2nd Childhood. I'm wrong. Just like the other folks here have said, I'm wrong. Even when I post the correct information, after research, I'm wrong.

By the way, once again--I'm wrong.

So are the following people:

ATF Compliance-Seattle
ATF Enforcement-Seattle
ATF Compliance-Atlanta

Assorted Special Agents from DEA and ATF-Enforcement--who shall remain unnamed here for obvious reasons

Mech-Tech Systems--heck, they're so illegal that they're still in business, and were in business for YEARS before this post was started.

Brownell's Inc.--a gunsmith's supply shop, who has a sterling reputation for following the law--as evidenced by their dealing in repair parts for NFA firearms, and who would NOT jeopardize their business by selling illegal items (who, by the way, carried the Mech-Tech systems CCU (Carbine Conversion Unit) for a few YEARS before this even became a controversy).

In closing--yep, I guess I'm as wrong as a two-dollar bill. (Hey, wait--we have those....)

dogtown tom · October 27, 2011, 12:41 PM

You were wrong until ATF issued their determination letter on August 4th, 2011. If you believe you were correct before that date.......ATF disagrees.

Why in the heck do you think they issued the ruling?

October 27, 2011, 09:07 AM	#57
2ndChildhood Junior Member Join Date: January 11, 2011 Posts: 3	Recent BATF ruling in print Hello all - Powderman has it right and here is the definitive proof: http://www.atf.gov/regulations-rulin...ing-2011-4.pdf (see bottom of last page) Also in the Nov 2011 issue of American Rifleman (page 90 - ILA column) we have this excerpt: "The ruling also states that a pistol can be made into a rifle (for example by adding a long barrel and a shoulder stock), and then turned back into a pistol, without making an NFA 'firearm' " Also - this info is now posted on the Mech Tech forum: http://mechtechsys.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=431

October 27, 2011, 12:41 PM	#60
dogtown tom Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2006 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 3,078	Don't be such a drama queen...... You were wrong until ATF issued their determination letter on August 4th, 2011. If you believe you were correct before that date.......ATF disagrees. Why in the heck do you think they issued the ruling? __________________ Need a FFL in Dallas/Plano/Allen/Frisco/McKinney ? Just EMAIL me. $20 transfers ($10 for CHL, active military,police,fire or schoolteachers) Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE Last edited by dogtown tom; October 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM.

July 25, 2011, 07:43 PM	#51
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	Thank goodness we have a BATFE to mull over these complex matters and clarify things for us...

August 4, 2011, 09:54 PM	#52
rjrivero Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2008 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 1,399	Well, looky here. The ATF has again contradicted itself and is now allowing a pistol to be converted to a rifle and back to a pistol. Mech Tech is legal. LINK HERE.

August 5, 2011, 08:28 AM	#54
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	What's the difference between the Mech Tech kit and a barreled carbine upper receiver for a Mac10? There has never been any problem taking a Mac10 pistol and using the pistol receiver on a carbine kit. However, you cannot take a Mac10 Carbine (very few made) and LEGALLY put a pistol upper receiver on it.