Couer d'Alene Police Officer Involved Shooting video - Page 5

LockedBreech · January 20, 2014, 03:37 PM

Sorry my thread turned testy Glenn, I was afraid it would. Looks like all the beneficial points have been covered.

Double Naught Spy · January 20, 2014, 04:20 PM

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Was it appropriate for the officer to be in the house and could he have backed out of the door?

Yes, and possibly so. Just because he saw a man with a knife isn't a reason to flee.

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Officers are taught to avoid unsafe scenes and to utilize backup when there is any possibility of violence.

What??? No.

Elkins45 · January 20, 2014, 04:39 PM

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Anybody have anything else useful to say?

Don't know if this qualifies as useful, but I think it's worth noting that if the officer hadn't been wearing a video camera we likely wouldn't be having this conversation. Look at how many commenters here and on the original site counted seconds and made second guesses based on watching the video. If we hadn't seen the video this would have been a much shorter discussion.

johnelmore · January 20, 2014, 07:15 PM

My useful words are just to reinforce the fact that police officers are not supermen and so they are not taught to run into unsafe scenes by themselves. I dont know about other states, but here at the local academy officers are taught common sense techniques to manage potentially violent situations. They are taught how to evaluate and size up a scene. They are taught teamwork and how not to get themselves killed.

If you believe an officer is supposed to charge into unsafe scenes half hazardly risking life and limb you are wrong. They are not supposed to jump in front of bullets like the Secret Service nor are they the Seal Team from the Lone Survivor. They are supposed to properly manage a scene with the emphasis on their own safety.

The book is right and its always been right. When the officer goes against training is when they are injured or killed.

Glenn E. Meyer · January 20, 2014, 07:27 PM

Current active shooter doctrine is for officers (even alone) to enter the dangerous scene and try to neutralize the threat.

Since we are going in circles, this is closed.

January 20, 2014, 07:27 PM	#105
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Current active shooter doctrine is for officers (even alone) to enter the dangerous scene and try to neutralize the threat. Since we are going in circles, this is closed. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

January 20, 2014, 03:37 PM	#101
LockedBreech Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2009 Location: Rocky Mountain West Posts: 3,395	Sorry my thread turned testy Glenn, I was afraid it would. Looks like all the beneficial points have been covered.

January 20, 2014, 07:15 PM	#104
johnelmore Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2013 Posts: 456	My useful words are just to reinforce the fact that police officers are not supermen and so they are not taught to run into unsafe scenes by themselves. I dont know about other states, but here at the local academy officers are taught common sense techniques to manage potentially violent situations. They are taught how to evaluate and size up a scene. They are taught teamwork and how not to get themselves killed. If you believe an officer is supposed to charge into unsafe scenes half hazardly risking life and limb you are wrong. They are not supposed to jump in front of bullets like the Secret Service nor are they the Seal Team from the Lone Survivor. They are supposed to properly manage a scene with the emphasis on their own safety. The book is right and its always been right. When the officer goes against training is when they are injured or killed.