Type 7 FFL

Firearms86 · June 30, 2011, 10:48 PM

Does anybody have a list of Type 07 FFLs?

dogtown tom · July 1, 2011, 10:16 AM

ATF probably does.

Don P · July 1, 2011, 10:46 AM

Google is your friend

Firearms86 · July 1, 2011, 08:37 PM

Nothing comes up on google. It's not on the ATF website either.

oldkim · July 1, 2011, 09:04 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License

Type 1 Title 1 dealer or gunsmith other than destructive devices. Can also deal in Title II NFA firearms with class 3 tax stamp.

Type 2 Title 1 dealer doing business as a pawnbroker

Type 3 Licensed collector of Curio & Relic (C&R) firearms

Type 6 Licensed manufacturer of ammunition and reloading components other than Armor Piercing ammunition

Type 7 Title 1 manufacturer of firearms, who can also act as dealer, other than Destructive Devices, ammunition and ammunition components ther than Armor Piercing ammunition. Can also manufacture & deal in Title II NFA firearms with class 2 tax stamp.

Type 8 Importer of Title 1 firearms and ammunition. Can also import Title II NFA firearms with class 1 tax stamp.

Type 9 Dealer in Title 1 firearms including NFA destructive devices. Requires payment as an SOT Class 1 (can act as an NFA Dealer). To deal/broker any DD with an explosives content (i.e. flash-bangs) requires an additional FFL as a Dealer of High Explosives.

Type 10 Manufacturer of Title 1 firearms, ammunition and ammunition components, manufacturer of NFA Destructive Devices, ammunition for Destructive Devices, and Armor Piercing ammunition (can act as a dealer). Requires payment as an SOT Class 2 (can act as an NFA Dealer). To manufacture any DD with an explosives content (i.e. flash-bangs) requires an additional FFL as a Type 20 Manufacturer of High Explosives.

Type 11 Importer of Title 1 firearms, ammunition, NFA Destructive Devices, ammunition for Destructive Devices, and armor-piercing ammunition. Requires payment as an SOT Class 1 and registration with the U.S. Department of State as a Broker under ITAR/D-TRADE. To import any DD with an explosives content (i.e. flash-bangs), requires an additional FFL as an Importer of High Explosives.

Class Usage
Class 1 importer of NFA firearms
Class 2 manufacturer & dealer of NFA firearms
Class 3 dealer of NFA firearms

Class 1 SOT status requires an importer FFL, either Type 8 or 11.
Class 2 SOT status requires a manufacturer FFL, either Type 7 or 10.
Class 3 SOT status requires a dealer or manufacturer FFL, either Type 1, 2, 7, 8, 9, 10, or 11.

**Mal H** · July 1, 2011, 09:26 PM

Well, that's a list of FFL types, not a list of Type 7 FFL's.

I think that list has to come from the BATFE, and it might take a letter of inquiry.

oldkim · July 1, 2011, 09:57 PM

Well, read it fast...

Just a quick look up - didn't find a list either but found this info that I thought would be interesting to those that does or have any plans to...
http://www.patelsrepair.com/D/node/421

Curious... only 14 post...

I see a request for a list... most related to Curio's an Relics...

Quote:

A special type of FFL is available to collectors of curio or relic (C&R) firearms. C&R firearms are defined in Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 478.11 as those "...of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons." An application for a C&R FFL is filed using ATF Form 7CR.

Is the OP asking for a list of C&R?

Just wondering with a low post count....

Never mind... I see his post on re-manufacturer / modifications...

So, you might want to check out what it takes and cost associated with getting your FFL 07 to see if it still is feasible for what you are wanting to do be it a project gun or going into business...

Hope this helps

dogtown tom · July 2, 2011, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Firearms86 Nothing comes up on google. It's not on the ATF website either.

Yes it is....
http://www.atf.gov/about/foia/ffl-list.html

Don P · July 2, 2011, 11:41 AM

This from my Google search, http://www.quarterbore.com/nfa/class3.htm
Guess it only works for me and a few others

**Mal H** · July 2, 2011, 12:27 PM

Don - that isn't a lit of FFL type 7 license holders.

dogtown tom found the list on the BATFE site of all places.

Don P · July 2, 2011, 12:53 PM

My error in reading. Me apologies sir. Must learn to read more carefully. Me thoughts he was looking for the definition.

Firearms86 · July 3, 2011, 12:23 AM

Thanks Dogtown Tom; that's exactly what I was looking for. I've called many type 07 FFL, but they are uncooperative when it comes to modifying a NAA 22 Short. Can anybody recommend an FFL that is willing to work with these types of guns? Preferably in the LA area, but anywhere is fine.
Thanks!

**Mal H** · July 3, 2011, 10:16 AM

What??

Now that you've got the list you were looking for (and a lot of people looked for you), start giving them a call and see what they say.

dogtown tom · July 3, 2011, 10:57 AM

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Firearms86 Thanks Dogtown Tom; that's exactly what I was looking for. I've called many type 07 FFL, but they are uncooperative when it comes to modifying a NAA 22 Short. Can anybody recommend an FFL that is willing to work with these types of guns? Preferably in the LA area, but anywhere is fine.
Thanks!

Maybe if you explained WHAT it is that needs modifying on that mini we could help.

**Aguila Blanca** · July 3, 2011, 11:26 AM

He has another thread going. As manufacturted, the firearm is not on California's approved list of "safe" firearms. Apparently there's a loophole by which it can be modified, sold legally (?), and then un-modified by the end purchaser. He's looking to avail himself of that loophole.

Firearms86 · July 3, 2011, 04:33 PM

The modifications that the Mini needs is to make it measure a total length of 7 1/2 inches or more with the total barrel length measuring 3 inches or more; then the Mini will be free from having to comply with California standards!
Thanks!

Firearms86 · July 3, 2011, 04:37 PM

Something else that has come to my attention is that 80% frames are not considered firearms. So would it be possible for me to order a Mini frame, then all the parts, and then just assemble it myself?
Thanks!

dogtown tom · July 3, 2011, 04:59 PM

It may be cheaper and easier to move to the U.S.

June 30, 2011, 10:48 PM	#1
Firearms86 Member Join Date: June 4, 2011 Posts: 17	Type 7 FFL Does anybody have a list of Type 07 FFLs?

July 1, 2011, 10:16 AM	#2
dogtown tom Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2006 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 3,089	ATF probably does. __________________ Need a FFL in Dallas/Plano/Allen/Frisco/McKinney ? Just EMAIL me. $20 transfers ($10 for CHL, active military,police,fire or schoolteachers) Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

July 1, 2011, 10:46 AM	#3
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	Google is your friend __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

July 1, 2011, 09:04 PM	#5
oldkim Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2008 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 462	Wikipedia to the rescue.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License Type 1 Title 1 dealer or gunsmith other than destructive devices. Can also deal in Title II NFA firearms with class 3 tax stamp. Type 2 Title 1 dealer doing business as a pawnbroker Type 3 Licensed collector of Curio & Relic (C&R) firearms Type 6 Licensed manufacturer of ammunition and reloading components other than Armor Piercing ammunition Type 7 Title 1 manufacturer of firearms, who can also act as dealer, other than Destructive Devices, ammunition and ammunition components ther than Armor Piercing ammunition. Can also manufacture & deal in Title II NFA firearms with class 2 tax stamp. Type 8 Importer of Title 1 firearms and ammunition. Can also import Title II NFA firearms with class 1 tax stamp. Type 9 Dealer in Title 1 firearms including NFA destructive devices. Requires payment as an SOT Class 1 (can act as an NFA Dealer). To deal/broker any DD with an explosives content (i.e. flash-bangs) requires an additional FFL as a Dealer of High Explosives. Type 10 Manufacturer of Title 1 firearms, ammunition and ammunition components, manufacturer of NFA Destructive Devices, ammunition for Destructive Devices, and Armor Piercing ammunition (can act as a dealer). Requires payment as an SOT Class 2 (can act as an NFA Dealer). To manufacture any DD with an explosives content (i.e. flash-bangs) requires an additional FFL as a Type 20 Manufacturer of High Explosives. Type 11 Importer of Title 1 firearms, ammunition, NFA Destructive Devices, ammunition for Destructive Devices, and armor-piercing ammunition. Requires payment as an SOT Class 1 and registration with the U.S. Department of State as a Broker under ITAR/D-TRADE. To import any DD with an explosives content (i.e. flash-bangs), requires an additional FFL as an Importer of High Explosives. Class Usage Class 1 importer of NFA firearms Class 2 manufacturer & dealer of NFA firearms Class 3 dealer of NFA firearms Class 1 SOT status requires an importer FFL, either Type 8 or 11. Class 2 SOT status requires a manufacturer FFL, either Type 7 or 10. Class 3 SOT status requires a dealer or manufacturer FFL, either Type 1, 2, 7, 8, 9, 10, or 11. __________________ "Shoot Safetly, Shoot Often and Share Your Sport." Jim Scoutten, Shooting USA Check out my new website: www.shootonthemove.org

July 2, 2011, 11:41 AM	#9
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	This from my Google search, http://www.quarterbore.com/nfa/class3.htm Guess it only works for me and a few others __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

July 1, 2011, 08:37 PM	#4
Firearms86 Member Join Date: June 4, 2011 Posts: 17	Nothing comes up on google. It's not on the ATF website either.

July 1, 2011, 09:26 PM	#6
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	Well, that's a list of FFL types, not a list of Type 7 FFL's. I think that list has to come from the BATFE, and it might take a letter of inquiry.

July 2, 2011, 12:27 PM	#10
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	Don - that isn't a lit of FFL type 7 license holders. dogtown tom found the list on the BATFE site of all places.

July 2, 2011, 12:53 PM	#11
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	My error in reading. Me apologies sir. Must learn to read more carefully. Me thoughts he was looking for the definition. __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

July 3, 2011, 12:23 AM	#12
Firearms86 Member Join Date: June 4, 2011 Posts: 17	Thanks Dogtown Tom; that's exactly what I was looking for. I've called many type 07 FFL, but they are uncooperative when it comes to modifying a NAA 22 Short. Can anybody recommend an FFL that is willing to work with these types of guns? Preferably in the LA area, but anywhere is fine. Thanks!

July 3, 2011, 10:16 AM	#13
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	What?? Now that you've got the list you were looking for (and a lot of people looked for you), start giving them a call and see what they say.

July 3, 2011, 11:26 AM	#15
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	He has another thread going. As manufacturted, the firearm is not on California's approved list of "safe" firearms. Apparently there's a loophole by which it can be modified, sold legally (?), and then un-modified by the end purchaser. He's looking to avail himself of that loophole.

July 3, 2011, 04:33 PM	#16
Firearms86 Member Join Date: June 4, 2011 Posts: 17	The modifications that the Mini needs is to make it measure a total length of 7 1/2 inches or more with the total barrel length measuring 3 inches or more; then the Mini will be free from having to comply with California standards! Thanks!

July 3, 2011, 04:37 PM	#17
Firearms86 Member Join Date: June 4, 2011 Posts: 17	Something else that has come to my attention is that 80% frames are not considered firearms. So would it be possible for me to order a Mini frame, then all the parts, and then just assemble it myself? Thanks!

July 3, 2011, 04:59 PM	#18
dogtown tom Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2006 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 3,089	It may be cheaper and easier to move to the U.S. __________________ Need a FFL in Dallas/Plano/Allen/Frisco/McKinney ? Just EMAIL me. $20 transfers ($10 for CHL, active military,police,fire or schoolteachers) Plano, Texas...........the Gun Nut Capitol of Gun Culture, USA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE