Screw on butt pad for Winchester

Chainsaw. · December 2, 2018, 05:48 PM

Hi all. I have a Winchester 94 in 30-30 that has a lovely knurled steel butt plate, this butt plate, as you can imagine, leaves a bit to be desired when firing the rifle. Id like to put a cushioned butt pad on it but want a screw on, not a silly slip on. Any suggestions?

Red-5 · December 2, 2018, 06:03 PM

Limbsaver makes both, they even have a grind to fit if you have the tools, or you can sent you stock in and they will custom fit.

Here is a PDF download of their templates to figure out the correct size. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/19...35229279426438

big al hunter · December 2, 2018, 07:18 PM

Limbsaver is a good choice. If it needs to be fitted and you don't have the equipment or are concerned about the outcome of a DIY job, West Coast Armory will do it for about $100. I'm not sure if they offer gunsmith service at the Issaquah store, or if you would have to take it to Bellevue. My next suggestion would be Champion Arms in Kent. He did some work for me several years ago. Good quality and a fair price.

Pathfinder45 · December 2, 2018, 07:45 PM

Hi Chainsaw; what will you do with the Steel buttplate after you have taken it off? For goodness sakes, don't throw it away. If you don't want it, someone else might need it. I have an older, like 1942 vintage, model 94 Winchester that had an old, crumbling rubber recoil pad on it. I've kinda been looking for an original steel buttplate ever since, but not sure if an original will still fit due to stock alterations.....

taylorce1 · December 2, 2018, 08:22 PM

I'd get a PAST Recoil Shield and not modify your old 94 stock. Adding a recoil pad will alter the LOP if you don't cut the stock, and then you can't put the steel buttplate back if you wanted to. The only reason I say that is you have an older Winchester and it's worth more if you don't alter it. I have a 1971 top eject Winchester 94 and it has the plastic buttplate, so I'm guessing your rifle is older maybe a pre-64 rifle.

RC20 · December 2, 2018, 08:22 PM

I like the Kickeeze better.

Its designed to be ground and look decent.

There have been reports of the Limbsaver coming apart, not sure what the underlying cause is.

taylorce1 · December 2, 2018, 08:28 PM

Double post

Scorch · December 3, 2018, 03:12 PM

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I like the Kickeeze better.

I'm with RC20, the Kick-Eez is a better pad. It is grind-to-fit, but you can get 1/2" up to 1-1/8", they are made of sorbothane (same stuff you find in expensive running shoes) instead of closed-cell foam, and they will last a lot longer than a LimbSaver. I don't even use LimbSavers anymore (even though their factory is just down the road from my shop) because they get sticky and squishy after a year or two. Their pre-fit pads don't fit, and their grind-to-fit pads look like crap after you grind them.

jmr40 · December 3, 2018, 08:47 PM

I wouldn't modify that rifle. There is no way a recoil pad will ever fit correctly unless you cut the stock shorter. You just can't add another 3/4"-1" to the stock and make it work unless the stock is already too short for you.

In the field shot offhand there isn't enough recoil from that rifle to be a concern. From a bench the stock design on those rifles is not forgiving. It isn't the recoil exactly, but the stock shape. Those rifle stocks were not designed to be shot that way.

There are other, temporary options, that can be used just for shooting off a bench. Including a slip on pad that can be taken off when not needed. The recoil shield is another option.

Don't ruin a classic rifle!

Drm50 · December 3, 2018, 10:09 PM

I'm 6' 160lb on skinny side. I never noticed a 30/30 recoiling enough to worry about. They
will drill you off the bench but recoil offhand is hardly noticeable to me. Instead of whacking stock of good original I would go with a slip on. A little cushion and snow and mud protection when in the woods.

Chainsaw. · December 3, 2018, 11:26 PM

Thanks Gents.

Ill look into each option.

Ive no intent to cut down the stock etc. Im 6’2” 180# with monkey arms so a little more length of pull wont bother me at all.

That being said this old girl is Dads old deer rifle. A 1970 model. You can tell it was owned by a former Grunt, well cleaned but not babied.

And no the old 30-30 isn't a bone crusher, at least on the giving end but Im not a well seasoned rifle shooter so it doesn’t take much to annoy me, plus, when I shoot I tend to shoot ALOT in a sitting so I want to make it pleasurable.

LineStretcher · December 4, 2018, 08:24 PM

I have a 1963 Model 94 30-30 that is a safe find. It's perfect but you're right, if you like to play Rooster Cogburn with it, (he actually had a 1892 44-40), it can get a little irritating. I use the Limb Saver slip on with mine because I don't have to mess with anything and I can take it off when it's in the safe and it won't taint the wood.

I plan to use the same Limb Saver on my Marlin 45-70 Trapper to extend the butt and give me a little more padding when I'm out on the range playing cowboy.

For me, the Limb Saver does the job very well.

December 2, 2018, 05:48 PM	#1
Chainsaw. Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2015 Location: Issaquah WA. Its a dry rain. Posts: 1,774	Screw on butt pad for Winchester Hi all. I have a Winchester 94 in 30-30 that has a lovely knurled steel butt plate, this butt plate, as you can imagine, leaves a bit to be desired when firing the rifle. Id like to put a cushioned butt pad on it but want a screw on, not a silly slip on. Any suggestions? __________________ Just shoot the damn thing.

December 2, 2018, 07:18 PM	#3
big al hunter Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2011 Location: Washington state Posts: 1,558	Limbsaver is a good choice. If it needs to be fitted and you don't have the equipment or are concerned about the outcome of a DIY job, West Coast Armory will do it for about $100. I'm not sure if they offer gunsmith service at the Issaquah store, or if you would have to take it to Bellevue. My next suggestion would be Champion Arms in Kent. He did some work for me several years ago. Good quality and a fair price. __________________ You can't fix stupid....however ignorance can be cured through education!

December 2, 2018, 08:22 PM	#5
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,237	I'd get a PAST Recoil Shield and not modify your old 94 stock. Adding a recoil pad will alter the LOP if you don't cut the stock, and then you can't put the steel buttplate back if you wanted to. The only reason I say that is you have an older Winchester and it's worth more if you don't alter it. I have a 1971 top eject Winchester 94 and it has the plastic buttplate, so I'm guessing your rifle is older maybe a pre-64 rifle. __________________ NRA Life Member Last edited by taylorce1; December 2, 2018 at 08:29 PM.

December 2, 2018, 08:22 PM	#6
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	I like the Kickeeze better. Its designed to be ground and look decent. There have been reports of the Limbsaver coming apart, not sure what the underlying cause is. __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

December 2, 2018, 08:28 PM	#7
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: On the Santa Fe Trail Posts: 8,237	Double post __________________ NRA Life Member

December 2, 2018, 06:03 PM	#2
Red-5 Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2015 Posts: 104	Limbsaver makes both, they even have a grind to fit if you have the tools, or you can sent you stock in and they will custom fit. Here is a PDF download of their templates to figure out the correct size. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/19...35229279426438

December 2, 2018, 07:45 PM	#4
Pathfinder45 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2008 Posts: 3,224	Hi Chainsaw; what will you do with the Steel buttplate after you have taken it off? For goodness sakes, don't throw it away. If you don't want it, someone else might need it. I have an older, like 1942 vintage, model 94 Winchester that had an old, crumbling rubber recoil pad on it. I've kinda been looking for an original steel buttplate ever since, but not sure if an original will still fit due to stock alterations.....

December 3, 2018, 08:47 PM	#9
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,803	I wouldn't modify that rifle. There is no way a recoil pad will ever fit correctly unless you cut the stock shorter. You just can't add another 3/4"-1" to the stock and make it work unless the stock is already too short for you. In the field shot offhand there isn't enough recoil from that rifle to be a concern. From a bench the stock design on those rifles is not forgiving. It isn't the recoil exactly, but the stock shape. Those rifle stocks were not designed to be shot that way. There are other, temporary options, that can be used just for shooting off a bench. Including a slip on pad that can be taken off when not needed. The recoil shield is another option. Don't ruin a classic rifle! __________________ "If you're still doing things the same way you were doing them 10 years ago, you're doing it wrong" Winston Churchill

December 3, 2018, 10:09 PM	#10
Drm50 Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2014 Posts: 1,376	I'm 6' 160lb on skinny side. I never noticed a 30/30 recoiling enough to worry about. They will drill you off the bench but recoil offhand is hardly noticeable to me. Instead of whacking stock of good original I would go with a slip on. A little cushion and snow and mud protection when in the woods.

December 3, 2018, 11:26 PM	#11
Chainsaw. Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2015 Location: Issaquah WA. Its a dry rain. Posts: 1,774	Thanks Gents. Ill look into each option. Ive no intent to cut down the stock etc. Im 6’2” 180# with monkey arms so a little more length of pull wont bother me at all. That being said this old girl is Dads old deer rifle. A 1970 model. You can tell it was owned by a former Grunt, well cleaned but not babied. And no the old 30-30 isn't a bone crusher, at least on the giving end but Im not a well seasoned rifle shooter so it doesn’t take much to annoy me, plus, when I shoot I tend to shoot ALOT in a sitting so I want to make it pleasurable. __________________ Just shoot the damn thing.

December 4, 2018, 08:24 PM	#12
LineStretcher Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2018 Posts: 619	I have a 1963 Model 94 30-30 that is a safe find. It's perfect but you're right, if you like to play Rooster Cogburn with it, (he actually had a 1892 44-40), it can get a little irritating. I use the Limb Saver slip on with mine because I don't have to mess with anything and I can take it off when it's in the safe and it won't taint the wood. I plan to use the same Limb Saver on my Marlin 45-70 Trapper to extend the butt and give me a little more padding when I'm out on the range playing cowboy. For me, the Limb Saver does the job very well.

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