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November 28, 2017, 09:06 AM | #1 | |
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FFL Background Check Question
The FBI has reported that NICS has a 10% increase in BGC this past Friday (Black Friday). This is said to be another record number of BGC for a single day, 203,086 compared to 185,713 last year.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/27...ck-friday.html In the article, Quote:
...Is this true? Can (1) form 4473 be used for multiple firearms purchased at the same time? What if they are different as in handgun vs long gun? |
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November 28, 2017, 09:53 AM | #2 | ||
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Most buyers likely haven't ever paid attention to Page 3 because it's within the "Must Be Completed By Transferor/Seller" portion of the form. Quote:
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November 28, 2017, 01:22 PM | #3 | |
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There is no limit to the number or types of firearms that can be transferred on a single Form 4473.
The most I've transferred on a single 4473 is 150 Glock pistols to a security guard company. Quote:
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November 28, 2017, 02:44 PM | #4 | ||
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Page 3 has only four lines on it for entries, but if you read the instructions on Page 6, you find this: Quote:
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November 28, 2017, 03:14 PM | #5 |
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I have never seen an FFL use the "separate sheet of paper" for a transfer involving more firearms than there are lines on the 4473 (4 lines now; used to be 7). That includes transfers of up to 25 firearms. I've witnessed many, and been involved in several multiple-4473 transactions, myself.
...But I have also not been around, that I am aware of, for transfers like the 150 Glocks that dogtown tom mentioned.
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November 28, 2017, 11:10 PM | #6 | |
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November 28, 2017, 11:35 PM | #7 |
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Indeed.
I was in at my preferred LGS today, and had a really quick chat with the owner. I brought up the multiple 4473s topic, and his answer was along the lines of what I have assumed in the past: He doesn't want to rely on the separate sheet(s) of paper remaining with the 4473. It's easier (for peace of mind) to just fill out an additional form and not introduce an additional possible point of contention during an ATF inspection when the separate sheet(s) are missing.
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November 29, 2017, 07:41 PM | #8 | |
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Your dealer is a dimwit. The "point of contention" during an inspection will be the fact that he ignored the instructions on the Form 4473. He needs one of these:
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November 30, 2017, 10:45 AM | #9 | |
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But hey, it's not MY business. What's a mother to do...
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