Classic firearms newly obtained bolt action

reddog81 · April 19, 2015, 03:58 PM

Any ideas what ClassicFirearms.com has obtained. According to their recent post it is a highly desirable C&R bolt action that hasn't been available for awhile and appears to be from Russia.
Mosin-nagant is obviously the first thing that comes to my mind but those aren't that rare or hard to find. Maybe some desirable version of the Mosin?

Jim Watson · April 19, 2015, 04:51 PM

C&R Russian bolt action with a silhouette of a MN.
How can they be mysterious about another warehouse of Iron Curtain surplus?
I know there are a lot of MN variants and some people are trying to turn them into "collectors items" the way a lot of other surplus has been priced out of reach of the casual shooter. Maybe.

Be more fun if they were Berdan IIs, though.

emcon5 · April 22, 2015, 05:33 PM

Yup, not exactly surprising:

https://www.classicfirearms.com/lng-m91-30-nagant

skizzums · April 23, 2015, 02:37 AM

wow...mosins are already up to 200$ plus??? I am glad I bought three last year when they were still 129$, and people said that was over-paying. these may well be good investment guns someday.

noelf2 · April 23, 2015, 08:28 AM

^^^ That surprises you? ALL milsurp guns are a good investment. I can think of not a single milsurp C&R qualified gun or rifle that has not been an excellent investment over time. New guns, for the most part, are not as good from an investment perspective. I got my mosins when they were $69, and they were still available in VG condition. It's important to get them when everyone else thinks they're cheap and a bad investment.

**44 AMP** · April 23, 2015, 02:41 PM

Ok, they're a good investment in some ways, but you have to understand that the increase in value and the increase in the price are not the same things.

Say you get a rifle for $100. Gas is $1. That was then.

Now, the rifle is $200. Gas is $3.

In crease in price, no increase in value. Opposite, in fact, in this case.

Generally as things get scarce, their value increases, prices increase. BUT, if your money's value is a variable thing (which is the case today), price can change a lot without gain in value.

tahunua001 · April 23, 2015, 02:53 PM

likely it is a shipment of type 38s. not really too desirable but moreso than 91/30s, could also be hex receivers. it's all marketing anyway. just throw in some buzzwords like "desirable" or "banned from import" and fools will rush in with cash in hand.

emcon5 · April 23, 2015, 04:43 PM

Quote:

likely it is a shipment of type 38s.

You may want to click on the link I posted above.

tahunua001 · April 24, 2015, 04:00 PM

yeah I didn't read the whole thread when I answered, just the OP.

shaunpain · April 25, 2015, 01:27 AM

I just saw that Cabela's has a stock of Russians (it said they were in Ukranian storage, so I'm just assuming here) for ten bucks cheaper. If you don't own one yet, now is the time to buy. They won't get any cheaper, that's for sure.

tobnpr · April 26, 2015, 09:48 AM

I'm waiting anxiously to see how long it takes for them to sell these out...or if there's a "sale" sometime in the next month or two...

I think that, this is about "tops" for this rifle... and a reasonable price for a refurb. Others that have them at this price, still have them (SOG)- so they're not flying out the door. For shooters, and not collectors, the primary motivation is still the cheap ammo.

April 19, 2015, 03:58 PM	#1
reddog81 Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,634	Classic firearms newly obtained bolt action Any ideas what ClassicFirearms.com has obtained. According to their recent post it is a highly desirable C&R bolt action that hasn't been available for awhile and appears to be from Russia. Mosin-nagant is obviously the first thing that comes to my mind but those aren't that rare or hard to find. Maybe some desirable version of the Mosin?

April 23, 2015, 02:37 AM	#4
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	wow...mosins are already up to 200$ plus??? I am glad I bought three last year when they were still 129$, and people said that was over-paying. these may well be good investment guns someday. __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed

April 23, 2015, 08:28 AM	#5
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	^^^ That surprises you? ALL milsurp guns are a good investment. I can think of not a single milsurp C&R qualified gun or rifle that has not been an excellent investment over time. New guns, for the most part, are not as good from an investment perspective. I got my mosins when they were $69, and they were still available in VG condition. It's important to get them when everyone else thinks they're cheap and a bad investment. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

April 23, 2015, 02:41 PM	#6
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,832	Ok, they're a good investment in some ways, but you have to understand that the increase in value and the increase in the price are not the same things. Say you get a rifle for $100. Gas is $1. That was then. Now, the rifle is $200. Gas is $3. In crease in price, no increase in value. Opposite, in fact, in this case. Generally as things get scarce, their value increases, prices increase. BUT, if your money's value is a variable thing (which is the case today), price can change a lot without gain in value. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

April 23, 2015, 02:53 PM	#7
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	likely it is a shipment of type 38s. not really too desirable but moreso than 91/30s, could also be hex receivers. it's all marketing anyway. just throw in some buzzwords like "desirable" or "banned from import" and fools will rush in with cash in hand. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

April 19, 2015, 04:51 PM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,541	C&R Russian bolt action with a silhouette of a MN. How can they be mysterious about another warehouse of Iron Curtain surplus? I know there are a lot of MN variants and some people are trying to turn them into "collectors items" the way a lot of other surplus has been priced out of reach of the casual shooter. Maybe. Be more fun if they were Berdan IIs, though.

April 22, 2015, 05:33 PM	#3
emcon5 Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 1999 Location: High Desert NV Posts: 2,850	Yup, not exactly surprising: https://www.classicfirearms.com/lng-m91-30-nagant

April 24, 2015, 04:00 PM	#9
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	yeah I didn't read the whole thread when I answered, just the OP. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

April 25, 2015, 01:27 AM	#10
shaunpain Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 854	I just saw that Cabela's has a stock of Russians (it said they were in Ukranian storage, so I'm just assuming here) for ten bucks cheaper. If you don't own one yet, now is the time to buy. They won't get any cheaper, that's for sure. __________________ "Shut up, crime!"

April 26, 2015, 09:48 AM	#11
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	I'm waiting anxiously to see how long it takes for them to sell these out...or if there's a "sale" sometime in the next month or two... I think that, this is about "tops" for this rifle... and a reasonable price for a refurb. Others that have them at this price, still have them (SOG)- so they're not flying out the door. For shooters, and not collectors, the primary motivation is still the cheap ammo. __________________ Remington 700/Savage Rebarreling /Action Blueprinting 07 FFL /Mosin-Nagant Custom Shop/Bent Bolts Genuine Cerakote Applicator www.biggorillagunworks.com