A Good Groil

Liberate80 · June 16, 2018, 09:30 PM

Hello any and all who have experience.

I currently use a groil mix, grease/oil, of about 2 parts 3in1 oil and 1 part Lucas marine moly grease. I love it and it smells great.

I want to know what you guys and gals use for semi autos. I have used a lot of mixes and I now stick with this for many things. Tools, reloading, vehicles, etc. Of course, some parts get only oil, others only grease, and others thinner or thicker mixes of the two.

My question is, what do you all use?

I was thinking of adding some diesel oil, 0W-40, or some steering fluid, or DOT4 brake fluid, but for cost and time I dont see advantages. I have experimented with several combos, but right now, the 3in1 and moly grease mix is my favorite.

Thanks ahead of time for any input.

Brian Pfleuger · June 16, 2018, 11:20 PM

I use Eezox mainly, but one of several different "unscented" oils on my big game hunting guns. For many years I used RemOil. I take care of my guns and always clean them if they get wet, but only "clean" them otherwise if they start to lose accuracy or the mood strikes. I have polished and matte stainless finishes as well as blued guns. None have ever rusted, inside or out.

**Aguila Blanca** · June 16, 2018, 11:21 PM

My thought is that when I want to use oil, I use oil. When (and where) I want grease, I use grease.

I mostly shoot 1911s. For most locations I use either Gun Butter, or Mobil-1 15W50 with some micro-fine molybdenum powder mixed in. For the slide rails, barrel locking lugs (and for the sear tip if I do a detail strip), I use Lubriplate grease.

**JohnKSa** · June 16, 2018, 11:37 PM

Lucas makes a line of guncare products if you want to use something off the shelf with their name on it.

I use oil for some applications, I use grease for some applications. I don't usually mix oil and grease in a container to formulate a lubricant, but I've sometimes gotten both oil and grease on the same area in a gun.

I do sometimes make my own "grease" by mixing a good gun oil (usually a CLP) with a very fine moly powder. The oil makes it stick where I put it, and even if the oil completely evaporates, the moly remains to provide lubrication.

FrankenMauser · June 17, 2018, 12:17 AM

Like Aguila Blanca, I use oil where I want oil and grease where I want grease.

Occasionally, I use regular old axle grease, but generally it's a moly grease.
For oil, my go-to is FP-10. Though, if I want a thick oil, I use Slip-2000 EWL.

**Aguila Blanca** · June 17, 2018, 09:10 AM

I believe the old adage is, "If it rotates, oil it. If it slides, grease it."

thallub · June 17, 2018, 12:39 PM

i use Militec 1 and gun grease.

Erno86 · June 17, 2018, 12:48 PM

I use semi synthetic motor oil and gun grease.

Chainsaw. · June 17, 2018, 10:22 PM

AR bolts get grease, everything else gets oil. And by oil I mean oil...just...oil...not XYZ brand wizzbang, sparkel farkel, nut tickler, fancy pants oil. Heck pull the dip stick outta the lawn mower and wipe it on the bolt. Itll run.

tangolima · June 18, 2018, 11:28 AM

Where it bears load, e.g. sear-hammer engagement, grease. Superlube synthetic grease.

Anywhere else, oil. Breakfree.

It doesn't have to be gun-anything products. More often than not, auto products works better.

-TL

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FrankenMauser · June 18, 2018, 12:55 PM

Quote:

AR bolts get grease, everything else gets oil. And by oil I mean oil...just...oil...not XYZ brand wizzbang, sparkel farkel, nut tickler, fancy pants oil. Heck pull the dip stick outta the lawn mower and wipe it on the bolt. Itll run.

I prefer to not smell like engine crank case or rotten differential after a shooting session.
I also prefer oils that don't get gummy and sticky.*
I'll keep using what I've got.

*(Ironically, most of the biggest 'gummy and sticky' offenders are 'whizzbang' oils...)

Don Fischer · June 18, 2018, 12:56 PM

For me to use anything other than commercial lube product's I would have to assume I am smarter than their company engineers, I'm not!

**Aguila Blanca** · June 18, 2018, 01:56 PM

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For me to use anything other than commercial lube product's I would have to assume I am smarter than their company engineers, I'm not!

Mobil-1 15W50 is a commercial lube product, and it was engineered by Mobil's company engineers.

It makes a great gun lube for 1911s, and mixing in some moly powder makes it even better.

TailGator · June 18, 2018, 03:37 PM

I've been quite impressed with Weapon Shield oil. I use white lithium grease where I want grease - I think WS makes a grease but I haven't tried it.

FrankenMauser · June 18, 2018, 09:58 PM

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I use white lithium grease where I want grease - I think WS makes a grease but I haven't tried it.

I gave up on white lithium a few years ago. I couldn't find a brand that didn't separate, dry out, and get ugly and nasty.

burrhead · June 19, 2018, 06:06 AM

Except for my Garand I use Breakfree CLP on everything and have for decades. I donno, just seems to work. But then I clean with Hoppes #9 and Sweets. Don't need no whizbang, grumble, grumble, grumb....

TailGator · June 19, 2018, 02:58 PM

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I gave up on white lithium a few years ago. I couldn't find a brand that didn't separate, dry out, and get ugly and nasty.

Do you mean in the tube or after application? My tube has been around for a few years and is OK. I use it on the rails of pistols that I shoot fairly frequently. I doubt it has ever been on for longer than 2 months, and 1 month is probably more typical. Hasn't given me a problem. Thanks for the heads up, though - I'll pay more attention. Might need to try that WS grease after all.

Scorch · June 19, 2018, 03:45 PM

Although a lot of people enjoy doing the "mad scientist" thing in their garage and have various "secret formulas" that almost never fail, I like to keep life simple. Militec1 oil and grease.

Chainsaw. · June 20, 2018, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankenMauser

I prefer to not smell like engine crank case or rotten differential after a shooting session.
I also prefer oils that don't get gummy and sticky.*
I'll keep using what I've got.

*(Ironically, most of the biggest 'gummy and sticky' offenders are 'whizzbang' oils...)

Exactly my point. And yeah, while it would work, used gear oil, no thanks!

Model12Win · June 23, 2018, 01:06 AM

You say you've experimented with different mixtures. What does that entail? What benefits does one have over the other?

June 16, 2018, 09:30 PM	#1
Liberate80 Member Join Date: October 18, 2017 Posts: 17	A Good Groil Hello any and all who have experience. I currently use a groil mix, grease/oil, of about 2 parts 3in1 oil and 1 part Lucas marine moly grease. I love it and it smells great. I want to know what you guys and gals use for semi autos. I have used a lot of mixes and I now stick with this for many things. Tools, reloading, vehicles, etc. Of course, some parts get only oil, others only grease, and others thinner or thicker mixes of the two. My question is, what do you all use? I was thinking of adding some diesel oil, 0W-40, or some steering fluid, or DOT4 brake fluid, but for cost and time I dont see advantages. I have experimented with several combos, but right now, the 3in1 and moly grease mix is my favorite. Thanks ahead of time for any input.

June 16, 2018, 11:20 PM	#2
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	I use Eezox mainly, but one of several different "unscented" oils on my big game hunting guns. For many years I used RemOil. I take care of my guns and always clean them if they get wet, but only "clean" them otherwise if they start to lose accuracy or the mood strikes. I have polished and matte stainless finishes as well as blued guns. None have ever rusted, inside or out. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

June 16, 2018, 11:37 PM	#4
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,990	Lucas makes a line of guncare products if you want to use something off the shelf with their name on it. I use oil for some applications, I use grease for some applications. I don't usually mix oil and grease in a container to formulate a lubricant, but I've sometimes gotten both oil and grease on the same area in a gun. I do sometimes make my own "grease" by mixing a good gun oil (usually a CLP) with a very fine moly powder. The oil makes it stick where I put it, and even if the oil completely evaporates, the moly remains to provide lubrication. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

June 17, 2018, 12:17 AM	#5
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	Like Aguila Blanca, I use oil where I want oil and grease where I want grease. Occasionally, I use regular old axle grease, but generally it's a moly grease. For oil, my go-to is FP-10. Though, if I want a thick oil, I use Slip-2000 EWL. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

June 17, 2018, 12:48 PM	#8
Erno86 Senior Member Join Date: September 22, 2012 Location: Marriottsville, Maryland Posts: 1,739	I use semi synthetic motor oil and gun grease. __________________ That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." --- George Orwell

June 16, 2018, 11:21 PM	#3
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	My thought is that when I want to use oil, I use oil. When (and where) I want grease, I use grease. I mostly shoot 1911s. For most locations I use either Gun Butter, or Mobil-1 15W50 with some micro-fine molybdenum powder mixed in. For the slide rails, barrel locking lugs (and for the sear tip if I do a detail strip), I use Lubriplate grease.

June 17, 2018, 09:10 AM	#6
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	I believe the old adage is, "If it rotates, oil it. If it slides, grease it."

June 17, 2018, 12:39 PM	#7
thallub Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2007 Location: South Western OK Posts: 3,112	i use Militec 1 and gun grease.

June 17, 2018, 10:22 PM	#9
Chainsaw. Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2015 Location: Issaquah WA. Its a dry rain. Posts: 1,774	AR bolts get grease, everything else gets oil. And by oil I mean oil...just...oil...not XYZ brand wizzbang, sparkel farkel, nut tickler, fancy pants oil. Heck pull the dip stick outta the lawn mower and wipe it on the bolt. Itll run. __________________ Just shoot the damn thing.

June 18, 2018, 11:28 AM	#10
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 3,826	Where it bears load, e.g. sear-hammer engagement, grease. Superlube synthetic grease. Anywhere else, oil. Breakfree. It doesn't have to be gun-anything products. More often than not, auto products works better. -TL Sent from my SM-G930T using Tapatalk

June 18, 2018, 12:56 PM	#12
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	For me to use anything other than commercial lube product's I would have to assume I am smarter than their company engineers, I'm not!

June 18, 2018, 03:37 PM	#14
TailGator Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,787	I've been quite impressed with Weapon Shield oil. I use white lithium grease where I want grease - I think WS makes a grease but I haven't tried it.

June 19, 2018, 06:06 AM	#16
burrhead Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 1999 Location: Chihuahuan desert, Texas Posts: 1,148	Except for my Garand I use Breakfree CLP on everything and have for decades. I donno, just seems to work. But then I clean with Hoppes #9 and Sweets. Don't need no whizbang, grumble, grumble, grumb.... __________________ Join the GOA, SAF and the TSRA I'm offended by people that are easily offended.

June 19, 2018, 03:45 PM	#18
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Although a lot of people enjoy doing the "mad scientist" thing in their garage and have various "secret formulas" that almost never fail, I like to keep life simple. Militec1 oil and grease. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

June 23, 2018, 01:06 AM	#20
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	You say you've experimented with different mixtures. What does that entail? What benefits does one have over the other?