Western Australia Confiscates Bolt-Action Rifles

Bartholomew Roberts · August 24, 2015, 04:45 PM

http://www.beatonfirearms.com.au/pos...ry-appearance/

A blog from Western Australis explaining the latest lunacy there in the context of their firearms laws. It basically boils down to modern bolt actions with a pistol grip and modern chassis are being banned because they look scary and military like, while actual bolt-action rifles in military service are still allowed.

Unlike the U.S. however, the banned rifles are being confiscated.

Skans · August 25, 2015, 11:17 AM

It won't be long before all Australians will be criminalized for having any type of gun. The criminals won't care, though. I guess Australians don't care enough about their own safety or independence. They aren't losing their gun rights because of foreign invaders - they're doing it to themselves.

The same thing can and would happen here, if we let it. Don't vote for gun banners or those who support gun bans of any kind.

g.willikers · August 25, 2015, 12:21 PM

In addition to the advantages for the criminals by disarming the Australian citizenry, what about the risks from an invasion from the myriad of countries nearby with long histories of doing such things?
What are those politicians thinking?

**Tom Servo** · August 25, 2015, 02:18 PM

Australian law breaks firearms into several categories. Category A includes air guns and single-shot long guns. Citizens must provide a "genuine reason" to be licensed for one of those.

Category B firearms are non-selfloading guns like bolt-action rifles. To be approved for one of those, citizens must demonstrate a "genuine need" that is not satisfied by a Category A firearm.

Category D firearms are selfloading or pump-action long guns. Those are highly restricted and usually reserved for government use.

At this point, the police are making the arbitrary determination that Category B firearms resembling Category D firearms are Category D. They're confiscating them as such.

shooterdownunder · August 27, 2015, 12:16 AM

unfortunately nothing new. Although extending it to pistol grips is certainly a step up. WA is the worst offender at this. A while back they confiscated a bunch of air rifles because the barrel shrouds looked like suppressors.

Tom, only pump action shotguns are cat D. pump rifles are still ok at the moment

cat a includes bolt and lever rimfires.
cat b is essentially the same as cat a except for centrefire.

Glenn E. Meyer · August 27, 2015, 10:10 AM

Oh, remember the discussions that nasty appearance doesn't mean a thing in gun debates.

It's a modern sporting rifle. Isn't that enough?

August 24, 2015, 04:45 PM	#1
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	Western Australia Confiscates Bolt-Action Rifles http://www.beatonfirearms.com.au/pos...ry-appearance/ A blog from Western Australis explaining the latest lunacy there in the context of their firearms laws. It basically boils down to modern bolt actions with a pistol grip and modern chassis are being banned because they look scary and military like, while actual bolt-action rifles in military service are still allowed. Unlike the U.S. however, the banned rifles are being confiscated.

August 25, 2015, 12:21 PM	#3
g.willikers Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 10,442	In addition to the advantages for the criminals by disarming the Australian citizenry, what about the risks from an invasion from the myriad of countries nearby with long histories of doing such things? What are those politicians thinking? __________________ Walt Kelly, alias Pogo, sez: “Don't take life so serious, son, it ain't nohow permanent.”

August 25, 2015, 02:18 PM	#4
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	Australian law breaks firearms into several categories. Category A includes air guns and single-shot long guns. Citizens must provide a "genuine reason" to be licensed for one of those. Category B firearms are non-selfloading guns like bolt-action rifles. To be approved for one of those, citizens must demonstrate a "genuine need" that is not satisfied by a Category A firearm. Category D firearms are selfloading or pump-action long guns. Those are highly restricted and usually reserved for government use. At this point, the police are making the arbitrary determination that Category B firearms resembling Category D firearms are Category D. They're confiscating them as such. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

August 27, 2015, 10:10 AM	#6
Glenn E. Meyer Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 20,064	Oh, remember the discussions that nasty appearance doesn't mean a thing in gun debates. It's a modern sporting rifle. Isn't that enough? __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. - Aux Armes, Citoyens

August 25, 2015, 11:17 AM	#2
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	It won't be long before all Australians will be criminalized for having any type of gun. The criminals won't care, though. I guess Australians don't care enough about their own safety or independence. They aren't losing their gun rights because of foreign invaders - they're doing it to themselves. The same thing can and would happen here, if we let it. Don't vote for gun banners or those who support gun bans of any kind.

August 27, 2015, 12:16 AM	#5
shooterdownunder Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Location: sydney Posts: 135	unfortunately nothing new. Although extending it to pistol grips is certainly a step up. WA is the worst offender at this. A while back they confiscated a bunch of air rifles because the barrel shrouds looked like suppressors. Tom, only pump action shotguns are cat D. pump rifles are still ok at the moment cat a includes bolt and lever rimfires. cat b is essentially the same as cat a except for centrefire.