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August 3, 2005, 02:04 PM | #1 | |
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Do you want a used SIG .45?
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet...=1031783565272
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I don't work for them, but have bought stuff there before. They are a small shop but all my contacts have been positive. stay safe. skidmark |
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August 3, 2005, 03:16 PM | #2 |
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Sounds too me like Hutch's officers just wanted a weapon with a rail?
But, police officers in general are known to be the worlds worst in not carrying for their weapon's. Often times more than not, a PO will arrive home, take off his/her duty rig with weapon still in holster and not think about it again until its time for the next shift. I doubt very seriously whether the SIG P220's all broke or malfunctioned in an 18 month period. Sounds too me like there is a __________ in the old wood pile. Best Wishes, |
August 3, 2005, 03:19 PM | #3 |
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Can't be Sig's never break or have problems. PD just wanted a chance to get some 40 cal Glocks so they can enjoy the KABOOMS also. I bet Glock won't give you or me a new Glock for one of our old pistols even up.
People think PD's get Glocks because their the best How about they get Glocks because the company will do whatever it takes to get their pistol in front of John Q Public. I will give Glock credit they are good at advertiseing by way of Police, After All If Police Carry Must Be Good. So I best run right out and buy one.
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August 3, 2005, 03:24 PM | #4 |
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I gotta say.... it is seeming like Glock knows how to push their guns. Here we will trade you your "busted old" gun for our shiny new ones. GREAT marketing. Seriously what better way to get your gun recognized and popular. I would be mad at them, cause i don't care for glocks and PD's should be using american guns, but "free glock with trade in of old gun" is way too smart of a move by them.
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August 3, 2005, 03:32 PM | #5 |
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It seems consistant with previous postings concerning police troubles with P220 durability and reliability issues.
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August 3, 2005, 05:51 PM | #6 | |
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by ATW525:
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P220A on duty from the summer of 1988, until the summer of 1997 with NO malfunctions; and NO issues. It still looks as good and performs the same as it did from day 1. Today, it serves as my primary CCW piece; and don't you think for one minute that I would carry a piece that I'm not completely comfortable with. I think you are referring to crack slides found mostly on the stamped sheet metal slides of very early P226's? Those issues have long since been resolved. |
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August 3, 2005, 06:05 PM | #7 |
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No, I was infact reffering to previous posts on this very same forum about this very same problem with the P220... lol
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August 3, 2005, 07:21 PM | #8 |
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16 40S&W vs. 8 45ACP Now they can miss twice as much.
(16 round 40S&W? I guess they mean 15+1? Then why isn't the .45 9 rounds, 8+1? Old mags?)
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August 4, 2005, 07:10 AM | #9 |
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Oh my gosh.....
Could this be that verification everyone wanted about the recent problems with the 220R series guns???? http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=173385 |
August 4, 2005, 10:17 AM | #10 |
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3 points
1. I'm glad I held of buying a 220. Has anyone ever heard of any problems with the 239?
2. This news seems to surprise many people reinforcing the fact that Sig's are usually great guns. 3. I still want to own a 226 in 9mm one day.
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A couple of points
1. The article says the supplier is willing to trade the used Sigs for the New Glocks even up, not Glock. The reason for this is probably the fact that the Sig is over priced enough new to still be valued at the new price of the Glocks.
2. The reason the Sigs are overpriced to begin with is that a lot of people with no more knowlege of guns than the next guy think they are diamonds beyond reproach. ( i.e. I own one so its the best.) 3. Glocks have about a 40% share of the law enforcement market because they are the best weapon available for law enforcement officers, and the price makes for a great bonus. 4. THIS REPLY IS COMING FROM A FIFTEEN YEAR POLICE OFFICER WHO HAS CARRIED EVERYTHING FROM A COMMANDER TO THE SIG 229 .40 THAT I AM CURRENTLY ISSUED. A LOT, AND I MEAN A LOT OF COPS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO RELY ON THEIR WEAPONS IN HARMS WAY A LOT MORE, REPEAT A LOT MORE THAT CCW HOLDERS, GUN WRITERS AND SELF PROCLAIMED GUN EXPERTS CARRY GLOCKS BECAUSE IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE AMONG THE MAJORITY OF THE BOYS IN BLUE AND BROWN THAT GLOCK MAKES THE MOST RELIABLE HANDGUN OF ANY CURRENT HANDGUN MAKER, AND MANY ME INCLUDED WOULD GIVE YOU 2 SIGS, COLTS, SPRINGFIELDS, ETC. FOR ONE GLOCK IN ANY CALIBER. |
August 4, 2005, 11:43 AM | #12 |
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I think what is trying to be said is this.
"Glock is Teh Ro><oRz!!!! Glock > All+joo!!!!!" For all that don't understand that qoute, your lucky, for those that do.... Btw this is sarcasm, i honestly can't stand them. |
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There are cops that will give me two Colts, Springers or Sigs for a Glock?? I've been looking for an excuse to buy a Glock for the longest time, and I can't think of a better one than being able to trade it for two real guns!!
Edit: J/k folks... Glocks are real guns, too |
August 4, 2005, 04:28 PM | #14 |
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If the 1st post in this thread seems "seems consistent" with Obiwan's post in the other thread, it is because both refer to the same police dept.
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Uh oh. I sense a "my gun is better than your gun" rant coming on.
Any manufactured item can have defects and can fail. Any. There are no studies that say the SIG is less reliable than any other gun and lots of experience to the contrary (my own included). The plural of anecdote is not evidence. |
August 4, 2005, 05:31 PM | #17 |
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Oh yea COPS are sooo smart.
Last night while shooting my 1911 and the guy in the lane next to me takes a look at my ammo. "Excuse me but are those hollowpoints?" "yea" "But those are illegal. Only us cops can use those. The geneva conv......blah blah blah." I so wish I was making this up. but no. |
August 4, 2005, 07:17 PM | #18 |
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This article confirms what I have heard from other police armorers regarding the alloy P220. The gun is simply not a high round count weapon.
The Smith 4566 is superior from a durability and reliability standpoint. |
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You are talking about the same gun that some yokes got together and shot 100k rounds one day through it without stopping? When they were done they measured its accuracy and it was actually more accurate.
But no, it isnt a high round count gun. It's a worthless POS. Might as well buy a Jennings or Lorcin. If anyone has one send it to me and I'll give you fifty bucks. |
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Are you talking about the 10,000 round test where the firing pin broke at round 6,000?
Good one. Thanks for playing. |
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The Glock is the king of the idiot guns. Not saying that Glock owners are idiots, but rather "Any idiot can use it" which quite often what's needed for police and military work, as it's users more often than not will not be "gun people." For that reason alone they are great. It's a great tool. From a
"shooters" prospective it's passable and it works well enough. I've always said a Glock is like a good hammer. You don't think about your hammer, and you don't normally have pride in ownership of your hammer. And you never fully appreciate it until you're forced to work with a crappy hammer. From my own experience, the Glock has not been 100% reliable, where the Sigs still are. (3 Glocks vs. 5 Sigs) Given enough time though, everything will cough.
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http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=176997
SIG haters who refer to that torture test only dig themselves a bigger hole, anybody with common sense will look at that test and see a magnificent firearm. I would say that 99 percent of SIG owners believe they have the finest handgun ever made (within reason, its no Korth Combat Magnum for 6000 dollars). |
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