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Old October 16, 2018, 04:03 AM   #26
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I would probably look at some subsonic ammo.

I admittedly have no experience with this ammo, but my physics classes many years ago would lead me in this direction.
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Old October 16, 2018, 11:57 AM   #27
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I want my semiautos to cycle properly so I save the “wimpy” Fed Champion brass & aluminum case ammo from Wally’s for my Glocks, these eat everything. My go to ammo for everything else would be Fiocchi, Fed American Eagle and Blazer Brass.
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Old October 16, 2018, 12:54 PM   #28
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Recoil has more to do with the weight of the pistol. Felt recoil is subjective, but heavy bullets doesn't equal less recoil out of like weight pistols. Physics doesn't allow it.
Closest comparison on Chuck Hawk's Recoil Page is a 115 at 1155 FPS and 147 at 1000 FPS. out of a 2.0 pound pistol. The 115 comes back with 3.8 ft-lbs. The 147 with 4.6 ft-lbs.
Anyway, the lowest recoil is from a cast bullet going slow. Weight of the pistol still matters though.
Blank firing replicas can be as dangerous as a real pistol. Blanks can kill just as quick as a bullet. Using blanks with untrained people is really unsafe.
"...bullets intended for .380 ACP..." 95 grainers are still starting at close to 1200 FPS. Max loads run at or over 1300 FPS.
Factory 9mm isn't loaded light. No such thing as "Target load" 9mm.
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Old October 17, 2018, 03:19 PM   #29
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I've found that my Ruger 357 revolver shoots 38's with little or no noticeable recoil. So, if I were to transition a person from a rim fire to center fire that's how I would I go. Then you can take the next step to a compact 9mm semi auto. The only no recoil I've experienced was using 44 special in a SBH after using mag loads. After the first shot I inspected the barrel because I thought I had a squib load. LOL
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Old October 17, 2018, 03:25 PM   #30
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Closest comparison on Chuck Hawk's Recoil Page is a 115 at 1155 FPS and 147 at 1000 FPS. out of a 2.0 pound pistol. The 115 comes back with 3.8 ft-lbs. The 147 with 4.6 ft-lbs.
A 147 at 1000 is pretty stout, a "manstopper" load. For target and practice:
Recoil of Federal Syntech Target, a coated 150 at 870 fps is 3.4 ft lbs.
My 147 gr handload for IDPA, a 147 at 880 is 3.28 ft lbs.
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Old October 18, 2018, 09:26 AM   #31
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Lowest recoil 9mm?

I think this may be exactly what you are looking for: https://atlantaarms.com/products/9mm...challenge.html Stand1Armory (unfortunately out of business now) used to make a 9mm -p "Chubbie" round which was an excellent low-recoil round I used for training new shooters and this is the closest approximation to those I have found.

I've tested about 100 of them and they will lock back the slide on a Glock 17 and a CZ P09. No idea on smaller pistols. Hope this helps.
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Old October 18, 2018, 12:28 PM   #32
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I’m sure we have different ammunition budgets, $23.99 a box of 50 for that Atlanta Arms steel challenge reduced recoil ammo is way out of my price range. They say that pressures remain sufficient to produce standard operation G17 testing (well everything runs in all my Glock nines) but MAY require alternative recoil springs in larger/heavier firearms. With the exception of my STI Trojan 9mm 1911, which has a Wilson flatwire recoil spring kit in it, I’m not going to change springs to accomodate ammo variations in any of my other service & carry pistols.
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Old October 18, 2018, 12:57 PM   #33
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Me, either, largely because I am a reloader and handloader.
But the OP was about mild ammo for a novice class. Those seldom do much actual shooting and the price of one box of ammo is not likely to be a big factor.
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