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September 15, 2012, 12:52 PM | #1 |
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CCW to purchase out of state?
I was wondering if WV CCW is allowed to purchase a handgun in any other state without transferring it.
My mother moved to WV and didn't even want a gun , then she got a 870 for Home protection which I tactical-ed out with light,laser,and fore grip and put a Knoxx on to reduce the recoil for her. She over 60 so as amusing as that is with a tactical shotgun the Knoxx is a must, IMHO. Now she want's a handgun so I took her to the hardware store to look at their very limited selection. I also told her that if she gets a handgun ,she should get a CCW. My question is going to be for her second handgun (which I know after she starts shooting more she will get, I know my mom ). I tell her she needs to shoot a handgun before buying it. So I want a place where they have a range but a very large selection of handguns and that would most likely be out of WV. I gave her a list of what I recommend but it's not what I think it's what is best for her that she likes and is comfortable with. Any info or even if someone knows of good WV places that would be appreciated. Thank You |
September 15, 2012, 01:03 PM | #2 |
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Federal law requires purchase via residence state face to face, or via transfer through residence state FFL. CCW does not bypass this. CCW may bypass waiting periods in some states. States may impose additional restrictions. |
September 15, 2012, 07:48 PM | #3 |
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If she goes to VA and finds a handgun she likes, she will have to have the FFL in VA send the handgun to a FFL in WV, and then she can pick it up there.
Only one of the places that the GCA68 infringes on our 2A rights. Last edited by hermannr; September 15, 2012 at 07:54 PM. |
September 16, 2012, 02:35 AM | #4 | ||
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For a the more complete answer, here's the whole federal law story on interstate transfers of firearms (not including the rules for those with Curio and Relic licenses and the subject of dual residency): [1] Under federal law, any transfer (with a few, narrow exceptions, e. g., by bequest under a will) from a resident of one State to a resident of another must be through an FFL. The transfer must comply with all the requirements of the State in which the transfer is being done as well as all federal formalities (e. g., completion of a 4473, etc.). [2] In the case of handguns, it must be an FFL in the transferee's State of residence. You may obtain a handgun in a State other than your State of residence, BUT it must be shipped by the transferor to an FFL in your State of residence to transfer the handgun to you. [3] In the case of long guns, it may be any FFL as long as (1) the long gun is legal in the transferee's State of residence; and (2) the transfer complies with the laws of the State in which it takes place; and (3) the transfer complies with the law of the transferee's State of residence. [4] In connection with the transfer of a long gun, some FFLs will not want to handle the transfer to a resident of another State, because they may be uncertain about the laws of that State. And if the transferee resides in some States (e. g., California), the laws of the State may be such that an out-of-state FFL will not be able to conduct a transfer that complies. [5] There are no exceptions under the applicable federal laws for gifts, whether between relatives or otherwise, nor is there any exception for transactions between relatives. [6] The relevant federal laws may be found at: 18 USC 922(a)(3); 18 USC 922(a)(5); and 18 USC 922(b)(3). Here's what the statutes say:
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September 16, 2012, 07:09 PM | #5 |
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Thanks,
I wasn't sure I thought I was at a VA gun show and for some reason thought NC or SC could because of some special reciprocity but I must be mistaken. The 1/2 hour thing didn't matter with the NIC .I just think it seems a little wrong to waste the time of a place that will allow you to try the guns if you can get it for $100 less online and transfer it to your local FFL. Anyone know of a place with a good selection of Compact and Sub Compact 9mm's in WV? |
September 17, 2012, 05:41 AM | #6 |
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Some retailers won't even entertain the possibility of a FFL transfer because they don't want to bother with the paperwork and shipping.
Your hands are essentially tied to buy from online vendors in most situations when it comes to convenience. |
September 17, 2012, 06:34 PM | #7 | |
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September 24, 2012, 09:25 PM | #8 |
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It would help to know WHERE in WV. PM me if she is in the Harrison County area.
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September 25, 2012, 06:31 AM | #9 |
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Frank pretty much covered it and the answer is no.
You can buy it and have it shipped through an FFL though and that is pretty painless. Some dealers might even work together and do it at not cost.
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