If there was ONE full auto weapon you could legally and easily buy, what would it be? - Page 2

kozak6 · May 2, 2007, 10:36 PM

I'm thinking I would get an M16 for the modularity, and get one of the Lakeside belt-fed .22 lr conversion kits.

454 gunner · May 2, 2007, 10:43 PM

For me it would have to be the thompson or a MP5.

5whiskey · May 2, 2007, 10:46 PM

two words... MA DUECE. If you haven't fired one I pity you. Is the obsolute most fun on earth

Would go MK19 but I've had to pry one too many GRENADES off of the bolt face. NOT FUN

Moloch · May 3, 2007, 03:16 AM

Mg42

38splfan · May 3, 2007, 07:49 AM

I would really love the new Colt LMG. It's in the trial/testing phase right now. It's a 5.56 M-16A4 style platform, but full-auto and feeds from either 100rd. c-mags or a belt. Same employment/purpose as the 249, but much lighter and more adaptable/modular.

What would be nice, if only for fun/decadence factor, would be an automatic Desert Eagle in .44 magnum (never much liked the .50 AE) with 30 round magazines. No real purpose, and a bear to tote around with the big long mags, but would be loads of fun, nonetheless.

azsixshooter · May 3, 2007, 07:59 AM

The ubiquitous AK-47 Kalashnikov.

CleverNickname · May 3, 2007, 09:18 AM

I've already got an Uzi, Micro Uzi and an AR15 RDIAS, so if it was in addition to what I already have, I'd want an M240. If it was only one, including what I'd have I'd keep the Uzi.

KMBRTAC45 · May 3, 2007, 12:15 PM

MP5K- Its compact and ammo is everywhere

stephen426 · May 3, 2007, 08:44 PM

I would have to say the H&K MP5 as well. While it only spits out 9mm rounds, it is one of the most versitile weapons and very easy to control. The accuracy is impressive for a full auto weapon too. As KMBRTAC45 said, ammo is cheap too.

For heavier duty weapons, the M-60 would be loads of fun. The ultimate machine gun has to be the one mounted on the AC-130 though!

Maser · May 3, 2007, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheeler0351

two words... MA DUECE. If you haven't fired one I pity you. Is the obsolute most fun on earth

I know what you mean!

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=242401

Sturmgewehre · May 3, 2007, 09:33 PM

M16.

You can put a belt fed upper on it (Shrike - one of these days).
You can fire 5.56mm out of it.
You can fire 6.8mm out of it.
They have a 5.7x28mm upper coming out for it.
You can fire 9mm out of it.
You can switch uppers with the push of two pins.
You can easily swap stocks and sights.

It's the ultimate machinegun.

shaggy · May 3, 2007, 10:39 PM

M240

mxwelch · May 4, 2007, 07:51 AM

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m249 saw

+1. I got tired of lugging the 23 lb M60 around.

dave0520 · May 4, 2007, 01:10 PM

It was a tough decision between the M-16, MG42, Ma Deuce, and the BAR, but the M-16 wins because of its modularity.

I would love to have a rifle that can be shot full auto in dozens of calibers with just the change of the upper.

Raider 1 · May 4, 2007, 04:54 PM

No doubt the GLOCK 18 Those who know would know why.

M14fan · May 4, 2007, 10:02 PM

Thompson 1927 A1. Actually could have bought one in 1984 for 800+transfer but did not have the money. Been kicking myself ever since.

dasmi · May 4, 2007, 10:22 PM

Grease gun.

oldbillthundercheif · May 5, 2007, 01:45 PM

If I had unlimited ammo funds, I could not resist an M2 .50.

If I was restricted to my current ammunition budget, a Thompson.

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Thompson 1927 A1. Actually could have bought one in 1984 for 800+transfer but did not have the money. Been kicking myself ever since

Aaaaargh! I feel your pain. If I had been with you, you would not have to worry about kicking yourself, I would do it for you.

physics · May 5, 2007, 02:02 PM

M61 Vulcan...... hands down.

douglasschuckert · May 5, 2007, 05:08 PM

As stated (I’m sure) several times in the previous emails, the SMG in question (regardless of what type) has to have been made & registered prior to May of 1986. Almost all other SMG's made after that date are regarded as 'Post '86 Dealer Samples'. Post samples can only be sold to Law Enforcement or Military UNITS (or dealers with a special letter). They cannot be sold to individuals (regardless of profession). This is what has driven up the prices of SMG's.

As a starter gun, you'd be hard pressed to do better than a MAC 10 or 11, or an UZI. The MAC's offer much more versatility than the UZI's do, but the UZI’s are much more 'exotic'.

Your M16's, MP5's, Chicago Typewriters (Tommy Guns), are all VERY expensive (averaging $10,000.00+). You can go with the Venerable Ruger AC556 (avg. $6000+ and it's one of the last factory supported SMG’s).... There are several options out there for the first time buyer, but from personal experience and that of a LOT of others, go with a budget SMG.

The MAC 11 (9mm w/.22 Conversions available) is an excellent SMG. This is the gun that has won the most SMG Competitions out of them all. That says something to the quality & reliability. This particular SMG also has the most accessories currently being produced of any NFA weapon out there (except the M16 variants). You can get everything from new grips to complete uppers, to slow fire conversions, to cyclic rate enhancements.... This is also one of the last remaining SMG's that you can still find *NEW IN THE BOX* (avg. $3,500/$4,000).

The MAC 10 (.45) is also an excellent choice (this was my first SMG). I have mine setup to shoot .45/9mm/& .22LR. The MAC 10 is the original design. The MAC 11 is a modified version of this weapon. (Same price as the MAC 11).

All in all... if you have money to pay for a car, cash, you'd be better off purchasing a SMG. You can shoot the hell out of it, and still sell it later down the line for a substantial profit. Transferable SMG's and high quality diamonds are amoung of the only long-term (commodity based) investments that you can make that will not loose value (ever). They will only go up.

To make a long story longer, anyone even remotely thinking of getting into the NFA world, needs to do so now. Prices for transferable SMG’s are only going to go up. The average price of the MAC (variants) have raised by almost $1000.00 in the last 3 years, and these are the MOST common of all available. With the sunset of that screwed up Assault Weapons Ban, the NFA community has absolutely exploded! Silencers are now MUCH more common, and more and more people are beginning to become aware of NFA! The more people get into this, the more expensive the transferable SMG’s will become! Get yours now!!!

www.subguns.com – excellent place to find ANYTHING!

VUPDblue · May 6, 2007, 10:59 AM

@ DOUGLASSCHUCKERT:

I think you missed the original queston. The original poster was asking a hypothetical "what if" type of question. While your post was uber-longwinded, you are preaching to the choir.

quack fiend · May 6, 2007, 11:12 AM

tough choice, between mg42 and fg42

douglasschuckert · May 6, 2007, 02:28 PM

Thanks for the two cents worth. Keep it up and before two long I'll have a dollar.

wolverine350 · May 6, 2007, 02:31 PM

Hk Mp5

VUPDblue · May 6, 2007, 03:12 PM

You might have two, or is that to, or is it too...

I was just saying that you may have missed the point of this thread. Doug.38 was asking a hypothetical question intended to be a 'what would you buy if you only had one shot to get around NFA'. We know MG's are getting more valuable by the hour and we know well the procedures of the NFA. I was just stating *again* that while your long response was informative, it may be beating a dead horse on this forum.

May 2, 2007, 10:43 PM	#27
454 gunner Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 152	.45 Longslide with laser sighting.......... For me it would have to be the thompson or a MP5.

May 3, 2007, 07:49 AM	#30
38splfan Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2004 Location: Ft. Lewis/Tacoma, WA. Posts: 1,034	Colt LMG I would really love the new Colt LMG. It's in the trial/testing phase right now. It's a 5.56 M-16A4 style platform, but full-auto and feeds from either 100rd. c-mags or a belt. Same employment/purpose as the 249, but much lighter and more adaptable/modular. What would be nice, if only for fun/decadence factor, would be an automatic Desert Eagle in .44 magnum (never much liked the .50 AE) with 30 round magazines. No real purpose, and a bear to tote around with the big long mags, but would be loads of fun, nonetheless. __________________ "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others and I expect the same from them." - John Wayne

May 3, 2007, 07:59 AM	#31
azsixshooter Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2007 Location: Pinckney, MI Posts: 657	The ubiquitous AK-47 Kalashnikov. __________________ "Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We're evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that." --Saul Tigh http://sargesrollcall.blogspot.com/2...s-no-more.html

May 3, 2007, 12:15 PM	#33
KMBRTAC45 Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2006 Location: The valley of the sun scorched earth(Phx,Az) Posts: 117	MP5K- Its compact and ammo is everywhere __________________ NRA Life Member, USCCA Member Freedoms precious metals:Gold, Silver & Lead Tactical Pro II w/EE over 2000 rnds NO MALFUNCTIONS

May 3, 2007, 08:44 PM	#34
stephen426 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Posts: 3,840	I would have to say the H&K MP5 as well. While it only spits out 9mm rounds, it is one of the most versitile weapons and very easy to control. The accuracy is impressive for a full auto weapon too. As KMBRTAC45 said, ammo is cheap too. For heavier duty weapons, the M-60 would be loads of fun. The ultimate machine gun has to be the one mounted on the AC-130 though! __________________ The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!

May 2, 2007, 10:36 PM	#26
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	I'm thinking I would get an M16 for the modularity, and get one of the Lakeside belt-fed .22 lr conversion kits.

May 2, 2007, 10:46 PM	#28
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,657	two words... MA DUECE. If you haven't fired one I pity you. Is the obsolute most fun on earth Would go MK19 but I've had to pry one too many GRENADES off of the bolt face. NOT FUN

May 3, 2007, 03:16 AM	#29
Moloch Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Posts: 1,419	Mg42

May 3, 2007, 09:18 AM	#32
CleverNickname Member Join Date: August 3, 2002 Posts: 69	I've already got an Uzi, Micro Uzi and an AR15 RDIAS, so if it was in addition to what I already have, I'd want an M240. If it was only one, including what I'd have I'd keep the Uzi.

May 3, 2007, 09:33 PM	#36
Sturmgewehre Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,212	M16. You can put a belt fed upper on it (Shrike - one of these days). You can fire 5.56mm out of it. You can fire 6.8mm out of it. They have a 5.7x28mm upper coming out for it. You can fire 9mm out of it. You can switch uppers with the push of two pins. You can easily swap stocks and sights. It's the ultimate machinegun.

May 3, 2007, 10:39 PM	#37
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	M240

May 4, 2007, 01:10 PM	#39
dave0520 Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2005 Location: Philadelphia suburbs Posts: 394	It was a tough decision between the M-16, MG42, Ma Deuce, and the BAR, but the M-16 wins because of its modularity. I would love to have a rifle that can be shot full auto in dozens of calibers with just the change of the upper. __________________ si vis pacem, parabellum

May 4, 2007, 04:54 PM	#40
Raider 1 Member Join Date: May 4, 2007 Posts: 28	No doubt the GLOCK 18 Those who know would know why.

May 4, 2007, 10:02 PM	#41
M14fan Senior Member Join Date: March 26, 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 777	Thompson 1927 A1. Actually could have bought one in 1984 for 800+transfer but did not have the money. Been kicking myself ever since. __________________ "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." --George Washington

May 4, 2007, 10:22 PM	#42
dasmi Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2005 Posts: 882	Grease gun. __________________ If we look at the black record of mass murder, exploitation, and tyranny levied on society by governments over the ages, we need not be loath to abandon the Leviathan State and ... try freedom. --Murray Rothbard, For a New Liberty

May 5, 2007, 02:02 PM	#44
physics Junior Member Join Date: November 22, 2006 Location: Oregon Posts: 14	M61 Vulcan...... hands down. __________________ "In the world of science, there is physics. Everything else is just stamp collecting." -Ernest Rutherford

May 5, 2007, 05:08 PM	#45
douglasschuckert Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2007 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 141	From an SOT... As stated (I’m sure) several times in the previous emails, the SMG in question (regardless of what type) has to have been made & registered prior to May of 1986. Almost all other SMG's made after that date are regarded as 'Post '86 Dealer Samples'. Post samples can only be sold to Law Enforcement or Military UNITS (or dealers with a special letter). They cannot be sold to individuals (regardless of profession). This is what has driven up the prices of SMG's. As a starter gun, you'd be hard pressed to do better than a MAC 10 or 11, or an UZI. The MAC's offer much more versatility than the UZI's do, but the UZI’s are much more 'exotic'. Your M16's, MP5's, Chicago Typewriters (Tommy Guns), are all VERY expensive (averaging $10,000.00+). You can go with the Venerable Ruger AC556 (avg. $6000+ and it's one of the last factory supported SMG’s).... There are several options out there for the first time buyer, but from personal experience and that of a LOT of others, go with a budget SMG. The MAC 11 (9mm w/.22 Conversions available) is an excellent SMG. This is the gun that has won the most SMG Competitions out of them all. That says something to the quality & reliability. This particular SMG also has the most accessories currently being produced of any NFA weapon out there (except the M16 variants). You can get everything from new grips to complete uppers, to slow fire conversions, to cyclic rate enhancements.... This is also one of the last remaining SMG's that you can still find NEW IN THE BOX (avg. $3,500/$4,000). The MAC 10 (.45) is also an excellent choice (this was my first SMG). I have mine setup to shoot .45/9mm/& .22LR. The MAC 10 is the original design. The MAC 11 is a modified version of this weapon. (Same price as the MAC 11). All in all... if you have money to pay for a car, cash, you'd be better off purchasing a SMG. You can shoot the hell out of it, and still sell it later down the line for a substantial profit. Transferable SMG's and high quality diamonds are amoung of the only long-term (commodity based) investments that you can make that will not loose value (ever). They will only go up. To make a long story longer, anyone even remotely thinking of getting into the NFA world, needs to do so now. Prices for transferable SMG’s are only going to go up. The average price of the MAC (variants) have raised by almost $1000.00 in the last 3 years, and these are the MOST common of all available. With the sunset of that screwed up Assault Weapons Ban, the NFA community has absolutely exploded! Silencers are now MUCH more common, and more and more people are beginning to become aware of NFA! The more people get into this, the more expensive the transferable SMG’s will become! Get yours now!!! www.subguns.com – excellent place to find ANYTHING!

May 6, 2007, 10:59 AM	#46
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	@ DOUGLASSCHUCKERT: I think you missed the original queston. The original poster was asking a hypothetical "what if" type of question. While your post was uber-longwinded, you are preaching to the choir. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

May 6, 2007, 11:12 AM	#47
quack fiend Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2005 Location: liberty, ms Posts: 268	tough choice, between mg42 and fg42

May 6, 2007, 02:28 PM	#48
douglasschuckert Senior Member Join Date: May 4, 2007 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 141	@ Vup... Thanks for the two cents worth. Keep it up and before two long I'll have a dollar.

May 6, 2007, 02:31 PM	#49
wolverine350 Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2006 Location: ponca city ok Posts: 746	Hk Mp5 __________________ CVA Kodiak Magnum .50 cal Marlin 981T 22LR Bolt Action Remington 770 Bolt Action 270 Thompson Center Encore 243

May 6, 2007, 03:12 PM	#50
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	You might have *two, or is that to, or is it too... I was just saying that you may have missed the point of this thread. Doug.38 was asking a hypothetical question intended to be a 'what would you buy if you only had one shot to get around NFA'. We know MG's are getting more valuable by the hour and we know well the procedures of the NFA. I was just stating again* that while your long response was informative, it may be beating a dead horse on this forum. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !