M1A- M14 Questions - Page 2

egor20 · January 19, 2012, 01:14 AM

Had a few M14 (E2)s on board ship for shark watch and SSDF. Totally turned me off on FA guns.

phagar · January 19, 2012, 02:03 AM

What did you find wrong with them ?

abkennard · March 3, 2012, 02:54 PM

I am new to the firing line so please be patient with me lol, I am looking for information on an M14 I recently acquired...just don't know enough about them to know what I have, it is a Federal Ordnance M14SA. The stock looks like it has been filled in from where the select fire switch used to be. Anyone know much about these?

Jason_G · March 3, 2012, 03:22 PM

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Anyone know much about these?

To my knowledge, they were not an NFA item. They were semi auto M14 type rifles. Seems like they had some QC issues with some receivers, too, IIRC. I can't remember now if it was a bad heat treat or what, but I seem to remember some cracked receivers. I may be wrong and thinking about something else though, it's been a while.

Jason

David Hineline · March 3, 2012, 03:32 PM

Do a google search on your M14 Federal Ordnance they do not get much respect.

It is a semi auto gun, and you are posting in the section discussing full auto guns.

Anyway it's like any other crap shoot where some company makes receivers and tears apart old machineguns for spare parts, if the machinegun your parts came from was new, then your gun is like new, if it saw 20yrs of hard jungle fighting then got a new paint job, it is a worn out gun with a new paint job.

I had a Chinese Polytech M14 with the same reputation it functioned fine but any round fired in that gun, the brass even when loaded on a small based sizing die would never chamber in any other gun.

Hopefully your gun has seen enough use that it is past the stage that a problem part is going to cause it to blow up.

I saw one new that one the third round fired the case was blown out to a straight wall as the barrel separated from the receiver. Federal Ord exchanged the gun of course and no one lost an eye.

James K · March 6, 2012, 03:14 PM

Many M14 stocks were put on semi-auto "clones" and the hole for the selector tang filled in with plastic wood or some similar material, sometimes with an actual wood insert, for appearances. BATFE "discouraged" making semi-auto receivers with the tang and with the configuration of the M14 right receiver rail, saying they would be too easy to convert to full auto. That is why rifles like the M1A take down like the M1, not like the M14.

Jim

SR420 · March 6, 2012, 03:36 PM

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James K

Many M14 stocks were put on semi-auto "clones" and the hole for the selector tang filled in with
plastic wood or some similar material, sometimes with an actual wood insert, for appearances.

SAGE now offers Full Auto Cut-out Cover for the EBR chassis (M14FACC) - this one is grey, black is also available.

January 19, 2012, 01:14 AM	#26
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	Had a few M14 (E2)s on board ship for shark watch and SSDF. Totally turned me off on FA guns. __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

March 3, 2012, 02:54 PM	#28
abkennard Junior Member Join Date: March 3, 2012 Posts: 1	M14SA Info I am new to the firing line so please be patient with me lol, I am looking for information on an M14 I recently acquired...just don't know enough about them to know what I have, it is a Federal Ordnance M14SA. The stock looks like it has been filled in from where the select fire switch used to be. Anyone know much about these?

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January 19, 2012, 02:03 AM	#27
phagar Member Join Date: November 20, 2009 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 15	What did you find wrong with them ?

March 3, 2012, 03:32 PM	#30
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 704	Do a google search on your M14 Federal Ordnance they do not get much respect. It is a semi auto gun, and you are posting in the section discussing full auto guns. Anyway it's like any other crap shoot where some company makes receivers and tears apart old machineguns for spare parts, if the machinegun your parts came from was new, then your gun is like new, if it saw 20yrs of hard jungle fighting then got a new paint job, it is a worn out gun with a new paint job. I had a Chinese Polytech M14 with the same reputation it functioned fine but any round fired in that gun, the brass even when loaded on a small based sizing die would never chamber in any other gun. Hopefully your gun has seen enough use that it is past the stage that a problem part is going to cause it to blow up. I saw one new that one the third round fired the case was blown out to a straight wall as the barrel separated from the receiver. Federal Ord exchanged the gun of course and no one lost an eye.

March 6, 2012, 03:14 PM	#31
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Many M14 stocks were put on semi-auto "clones" and the hole for the selector tang filled in with plastic wood or some similar material, sometimes with an actual wood insert, for appearances. BATFE "discouraged" making semi-auto receivers with the tang and with the configuration of the M14 right receiver rail, saying they would be too easy to convert to full auto. That is why rifles like the M1A take down like the M1, not like the M14. Jim