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Old January 17, 2019, 06:22 AM   #26
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Ed Brown has recently announced their new Evolution (EVO) Series. It's an all-steel single stack 9mm 1911 that has been slimmed down and comes with a four-inch bull barrel and external extractor. It is priced at $1895, substantially less than the rest of their pistols. . . . .
I think this one passed my radar without much notice on my part, but I finally took a look at it today. I'm not usually excited about stainless, but that's a good looking pistol!
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Old January 17, 2019, 06:35 AM   #27
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For the price, the Star BM is the BEST buy for the money. I have FOUR and plan on another. Get the hand select, Classic Arms. WELL worth the few $$$ difference.
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Old January 17, 2019, 07:27 PM   #28
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"For the price, the Star BM is the BEST buy for the money. I have FOUR and plan on another. Get the hand select, Classic Arms. WELL worth the few $$$ difference."


I got mine from AIM. The fit and finish are excellent. The sights are decent and the trigger is very nice. For less than $300 OTD it is hard to beat.
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Old January 17, 2019, 09:46 PM   #29
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I like 1911 in 9mm. And I also like them in .380.
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Old January 17, 2019, 10:06 PM   #30
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In the 1911 platform I would choose .38 Super over 9mm.
I agree-so long as the op is wealthy or reloads if he plans on sending a lot of lead downrange.
That's the overwhelming value of having a progressive press, choose your weapon based on the power of the round you want to shoot and not on the price of milsurp 9MM ammo.

I'm convinced cheap is the only reason 9MM is as popular as it is.

I have a DW 10MM and hear people say the same thing about 10Mm, so silly, the 10MM is more powerful at 100 yards than the .45 ACP is at the muzzle, and ammo is cheap for me.

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I like 1911 in 9mm. And I also like them in .380.
There is really only one gun close to being a true 1911 in .380, and that's still the Llama locked breech models, especially those made in 1942-44. There are many small 1911 look alikes that have totally different internal systems.
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Old January 17, 2019, 10:24 PM   #31
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HisSoldier, apparently you are totally unfamiliar with the locked breech Browning 1911 Black Label Pro in .380.

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Old January 18, 2019, 07:16 PM   #32
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If you're looking for a cocked 'n' locked 9mm carry piece, I recommend the SIG P938.

It's literally half the size of a Commander, half the weight of a Combat Commander, and still holds 7+1 with the pinky-rest extended magazine.

I have 1700 rounds through mine, and it's one of my favorite handguns.
Even though it's small, the SIG comes with full-sized night sights, and has nice features like checkered front- and back-straps, and ambi safety.
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Old January 18, 2019, 11:59 PM   #33
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I just picked up a Springfield EMP4 Lightweight Champion Concealed Carry Contour (yeah, that's a mouthful, isn't it?) a couple of months ago and I really like it...

Rather than just putting a 9mm barrel in the frame and a spacer block into a magazine designed for a significantly longer cartridge, the EMP action is specifically designed and sized to the scale of the 9mm round. Supposedly that helps with reliability; I do know that the size difference is apparent if you put the EMP next to a standard 1911, or even a Commander. It still feels just fine and 1911-like to me, but the size reduction really seems to help with concealing it. It's very similar in size to a G19 - maybe a bit thinner.

It's a joy to shoot if you like 1911s. I can easily get the best groups out of any of my defensive-caliber pistols with it. So far it's completely reliable with every round I've shot through it except the Underwood Extreme Defender (I suspect the "points" on the nose were catching on the feed path somewhere - like all 1911's I've seen, the ramp is rather steep). It seems to love the Federal HST though.

Definitely worth checking out if you're looking for a 9mm "1911"...
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Old January 19, 2019, 07:07 AM   #34
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Wow. I'd almost forgotten about that one (the Springfield EMP4 Lightweight Champion Concealed Carry Contour, thank you copy & paste). I sure do like the looks of it!
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Old January 19, 2019, 08:20 AM   #35
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Ed Brown has recently announced their new Evolution (EVO) Series. It's an all-steel single stack 9mm 1911 that has been slimmed down and comes with a four-inch bull barrel and external extractor. It is priced at $1895, substantially less than the rest of their pistols.

The "rub" is that they won't customize it in order to keep the price down. I assume you can send it back in for them to do some basic changes they list, like different sights. They will have different configurations later but they will be built in batches to save costs. An aluminum alloy frame version would likely be $200+ more than the all-steel version.

I'm still working on a justification for getting this pistol.
It would be nice, at least for us LH 15% of the population if they would just out an ambi safety on it.
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Old January 19, 2019, 08:20 AM   #36
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I too have been looking at a Springfield EMP4 9mm contour carry and have posted on other forums looking for answers on how these hold up to a lot of shooting. So far can't get much info other then people that buy them love them but high round count EMP's are real hard to find.
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Old January 19, 2019, 10:51 AM   #37
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What is your budget? If you can go to about $1300 I would look a the Dan Wesson Valkyrie. You can still find them even thought they have been discontinued. You can get it in CCO or Commander length frames. I prefer the Commander. Dollar for Dollar the best value in a carry 1911 9mm IMHO. Also if you go the 9mm 1911 route get good mags. Wilson, Tripp, Metalforms or Chip Mccormicks, if you can find them.

I currently carry a Wilson Combat EDC X9 and it is a 1911 like pistol. It has a 1911 feel but give you 15+1 and a different grip profile. They are a love it or leave it gun. It really takes about 500+ rounds to get a feel for the gun. Lots of people are selling them like new in the box because they expected it to be more 1911 like and they IMHO have not shot it enough to appreciate the platform. You know that because their for sale ads talk about 150-200 round round counts.





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Old January 19, 2019, 01:11 PM   #38
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I too have been looking at a Springfield EMP4 9mm contour carry and have posted on other forums looking for answers on how these hold up to a lot of shooting. So far can't get much info other then people that buy them love them but high round count EMP's are real hard to find.
Buckey,
Well, I'm up to around 600. Sorry mine's not a "high round count" yet, but I'm working on it!
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Old January 19, 2019, 02:01 PM   #39
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Ive tried running 9mm in my 1911's but they don't seem to feed right for some reason.....





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Old January 19, 2019, 02:04 PM   #40
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I kid I kid


But seriously...
Those that mentioned the Star 9mm's are correct, I picked a number of them from the early surplus batches that came in. Fine shooters, great quality, and still a good bargain even though they have gone up in price quite a bit.
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Old January 19, 2019, 03:40 PM   #41
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Dan Wesson has some very nice 9mms to choose from. The Colt lightweight commander is another fine offering.
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Old January 19, 2019, 09:08 PM   #42
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DANG IT! All of this talk about '1911 style' 9MM's and the Star BM.

I went to a gun show today looking to buy an AR, guess what followed me home! There were several Star BM's for sale and they were on the high side for their condition. What J&G would sell for $149, people were asking $280+, until I stopped at this one table. They had what I would call a VG/Excellent example for $230. I got it for $220 OTD. Got it home and wiped it down, it is even better looking than I thought. There is no wear in the finish and very little on the outside of the barrel from the slide being cycled. Just ordered some cocobolo grips for it since it is in such good condition.

P.S. - I also got an AR
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Old January 19, 2019, 09:51 PM   #43
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Some suggested the .38 Super. Excellent cartridge.

BUT....

I suspect the modern 9 mm ammo be it whatver weight
can now duplicate the ballistics of the .38 Super and the
ammo will be more readily available and cheaper.

TBM900, may I suggest a variable spring loaded
spacer for your magazines?
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Old January 20, 2019, 09:05 AM   #44
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I have the EMP. Great gun and I've carried it concealed a few times, but to be honest, I think any of my other 9mm sub-compacts (MP9c, SR9c, MP Shield, and P2000sk) are probably superior in this particular role, albeit not as cool to show off at a family BBQ.

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Old January 20, 2019, 02:25 PM   #45
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I dare anyone to show me a more accurate rendition of the 1911 in a .380 other then the Browning Black Label Pro.
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Old January 20, 2019, 04:46 PM   #46
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In the 1911 platform I would choose .38 Super over 9mm.
I choose 357 Magnum in a 1911
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Old January 20, 2019, 04:48 PM   #47
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Some suggested the .38 Super. Excellent cartridge.

BUT....

I suspect the modern 9 mm ammo be it whatver weight
can now duplicate the ballistics of the .38 Super and the
ammo will be more readily available and cheaper.

TBM900, may I suggest a variable spring loaded
spacer for your magazines?
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Old January 22, 2019, 05:51 PM   #48
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I have a Sig938 and I have been very pleased thus far. I failed to feed a single JHP, that then later fed and fired just fine. I have read that 1911s can sometimes need a break in with FMJ ammo, though from my initial inspection, this gun was fired enough to start some wear-marks, so more experimentation is needed. It has not choked on any other ammo, and if that continues, I will put my full recommendation behind this one.
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Old January 22, 2019, 08:44 PM   #49
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I wouldn't classify a sig 938 as a 1911. A sig 1911, yes I would classify as such.
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Old January 23, 2019, 09:27 AM   #50
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I dare anyone to show me a more accurate rendition of the 1911 in a .380 other then the Browning Black Label Pro.
That's a really nice gun, IMHO..I fondled one at a gun show..BUT not inexpensive...
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