1986 FOPA Hughes amendment vote footage located - Page 2

johnwilliamson062 · December 6, 2010, 11:25 PM

I would have kept this quiet until I had the film in hand.
I doubt anything can come of it even if you get the film and it shows the shenanigans, but don't be surprised if your film is misplaced along the way.

9mmHP · December 8, 2010, 01:40 AM

If it's the video I remember from '86, it should show ol' Charlie laughing and banging his gavel over the the shouts of "NAY."

AJAX22 · December 13, 2010, 03:16 PM

looks like they processed the order.

So the wait continues...

AJAX22 · January 24, 2011, 06:31 PM

IT IS HERE!!!!

WATCHING IT NOW!!!

WooooooO!!!!

I'm uploading as soon as i can

Crosshair · January 24, 2011, 08:02 PM

Remember to post a torrent link so I can seed.

johnwilliamson062 · January 24, 2011, 09:23 PM

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Dead · January 25, 2011, 11:05 AM

Awaiting link...

Al Norris · January 25, 2011, 11:38 AM

Ajax has posted a small segment, here. He is having trouble with his video editing software (so you will get another link when it's in a more "finished" state), but this will give you an idea of what went on.

**Tom Servo** · January 25, 2011, 12:18 PM

Actually, the video transfer is excellent. Here's a screencap of the vote to include the amendment:

and on final passage:

AJAX22 · January 25, 2011, 12:19 PM

sorry for not posting the link last night, I fell asleep while uploading the raw footage.

as posted above, here is the highlight reel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Mx2UcSEvQ

Brian Pfleuger · January 25, 2011, 01:24 PM

I'm still a little confused as to what this is supposed to accomplish?

There's nothing new there, the transcript was already available, the method used to insert the amendment is relatively common practice and used by both parties... and both parties have little pretend conniption fits when the other party uses this (and many other) methods.

It all seems entirely inconsequential to me.

Hatch · January 25, 2011, 05:09 PM

Your wasting your time. It legally passed.

For people looking at the video you need to look at this

Time - 6:47
That is the vote on the motion to attach the Hughes Amendment to the Volkmer Substitute is voted down.

The time expired to discuss the Hughes Amendment at 7:08
This is were the guy gets up and ask for more time to explain and basically doesn't get more time but he does get another VERBAL vote on it.
This is were the Hughes get passed
8:20. They did a verbal vote and it passed. You can hear someone tell him to let it go because he got it.

at 9:44 they did a vote on adding the Volkmer Substitute (as amended) to the Amendment (hr4332 a02)
It passed.

Its all confusing but it did get passed. We got RAILROADED

The screen captures above do not show the vote on the HUGHES AMENDMENT but on the attaching the Amendment that the HUGHES was attached to to the main bill.
The Passage was of the main bill.

They did a Verbal vote on attaching the Hughes to the Volkmer and that was done at 820

WeedWacker · January 29, 2011, 09:48 PM

So they got a verbal vote after an elctronic struck it down and Wrangle's "opinion" as the chair was that the amendment was added?

January 24, 2011, 08:02 PM	#30
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January 25, 2011, 11:05 AM	#32
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January 25, 2011, 12:18 PM	#34
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	Actually, the video transfer is excellent. Here's a screencap of the vote to include the amendment: and on final passage: __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

January 25, 2011, 01:24 PM	#36
Brian Pfleuger Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Austin, CO Posts: 19,578	I'm still a little confused as to what this is supposed to accomplish? There's nothing new there, the transcript was already available, the method used to insert the amendment is relatively common practice and used by both parties... and both parties have little pretend conniption fits when the other party uses this (and many other) methods. It all seems entirely inconsequential to me. __________________ Nobody plans to screw up their lives... ...they just don't plan not to. -Andy Stanley

January 29, 2011, 09:48 PM	#38
WeedWacker Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2006 Location: Body: Clarkston, Washington. Soul: LaCrosse, Wisconsin Posts: 1,591	So they got a verbal vote after an elctronic struck it down and Wrangle's "opinion" as the chair was that the amendment was added? __________________ - Jon Disequilibrium facilitates accommodation. 9mm vs .45 ACP? The answer is .429

December 6, 2010, 11:25 PM	#26
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	I would have kept this quiet until I had the film in hand. I doubt anything can come of it even if you get the film and it shows the shenanigans, but don't be surprised if your film is misplaced along the way.

December 8, 2010, 01:40 AM	#27
9mmHP Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 2007 Location: Indiana/Indpls Metro Area Posts: 318	If it's the video I remember from '86, it should show ol' Charlie laughing and banging his gavel over the the shouts of "NAY."

December 13, 2010, 03:16 PM	#28
AJAX22 Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Posts: 27	looks like they processed the order. So the wait continues...

January 24, 2011, 06:31 PM	#29
AJAX22 Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Posts: 27	IT IS HERE!!!! WATCHING IT NOW!!! WooooooO!!!! I'm uploading as soon as i can

January 24, 2011, 09:23 PM	#31
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	... ... ...

January 25, 2011, 11:38 AM	#33
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	Ajax has posted a small segment, here. He is having trouble with his video editing software (so you will get another link when it's in a more "finished" state), but this will give you an idea of what went on.

January 25, 2011, 12:19 PM	#35
AJAX22 Member Join Date: June 2, 2006 Posts: 27	sorry for not posting the link last night, I fell asleep while uploading the raw footage. as posted above, here is the highlight reel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Mx2UcSEvQ

January 25, 2011, 05:09 PM	#37
Hatch Junior Member Join Date: January 25, 2011 Posts: 1	Your wasting your time. It legally passed. For people looking at the video you need to look at this Time - 6:47 That is the vote on the motion to attach the Hughes Amendment to the Volkmer Substitute is voted down. The time expired to discuss the Hughes Amendment at 7:08 This is were the guy gets up and ask for more time to explain and basically doesn't get more time but he does get another VERBAL vote on it. This is were the Hughes get passed 8:20. They did a verbal vote and it passed. You can hear someone tell him to let it go because he got it. at 9:44 they did a vote on adding the Volkmer Substitute (as amended) to the Amendment (hr4332 a02) It passed. Its all confusing but it did get passed. We got RAILROADED The screen captures above do not show the vote on the HUGHES AMENDMENT but on the attaching the Amendment that the HUGHES was attached to to the main bill. The Passage was of the main bill. They did a Verbal vote on attaching the Hughes to the Volkmer and that was done at 820

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