Crimson Trace Grips for S&W J-Frame

zippyfusenet · May 15, 2008, 07:40 PM

I was leafing through a catalog and noticed there are two different versions of Crimson Trace Laser Grips for S&W J-Frame revolvers. They're listed as:

S&W J-Frame, 3.15" tall, exposes, LG405

and

S&W J-Frame, 3 1/2" tall, conceals, LG305

Both versions are shown installed on S&W 642s and I can't tell the difference between them. Someone who knows, please explain to me what the one version 'exposes' and the other 'conceals'. Thank you.

Baba Louie · May 15, 2008, 08:03 PM

405 exposes bottom of frame, 305 (a little longer) conceals bottom of frame

zippyfusenet · May 15, 2008, 08:10 PM

Thank you kindly.

jmorrell · May 16, 2008, 08:06 AM

The 305, being a bit longer, is a bit easier to grip, especially of you have larger hands. That being said, those who use a J frame as a CCW seem to prefer the 405 as it is a bit easier to conceal. I can't carry in my state, so I appreciate the extra length of the 305 on my model 60. And unlike the stock grips on the J frame, the Crimson Trace Lasergrips cover the backstrap with a layer of padding which cuts down the effect of recoil on the web of the hand.

DAdams · May 16, 2008, 10:40 AM

If you plan on pocket carrying the CT 405s (smaller) are what you want.

If you IWB/OWB or pocket carry with a shirt or jacket concealing your pocket or deep pockets the 305s might work for you if you prefer a full grip.

You can simulate the 305s by trying a set of Hogue Monogrips they are about the same length as the 305s.

I like the recoil reducing pocket on the 405s as well.

I suspect if you do a search you will find all sorts of information. Take a look at this.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...81#post4252981

I have 405s on a 642 and a 340.

chris in va · May 16, 2008, 11:04 AM

Here's something else you may want to consider.

Lasermax

https://www.lasermax.com/category.php?id=8

Largestal · May 16, 2008, 11:18 AM

Hmm, might have to get one of those side-mount lasers. I really like my current grip and would hate to give it up.

chris in va · May 16, 2008, 10:00 PM

The grip gets replaced too. See the switch?

zippyfusenet · May 17, 2008, 08:06 AM

Thanks for all this info, fellas. You've been very helpful.

laktrash · May 18, 2008, 01:39 PM

I have S&W 640 thinking about crimson sights also where does the Lg 105 fall in this mix its the cheapest. I should have read the highroad thread before posting this sorry I'm new

lanternlad · May 24, 2008, 09:33 AM

I have a CTC LG-105 on my 638. Feels like it came from the factory and carries very easily. Also can be found a lot cheaper than the 305 or 405.

http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Pro...2/Default.aspx

My wife doesn't like it - its not for everybody. She has the 305 on her 642.

Mikeyboy · May 24, 2008, 10:24 AM

In doing some research between lasermax and Crimson trace there are pros and cons. Lasermax's laser is more closer to the bore and you don't have to resight them when you change out the batteries. Bad news is you have to switch it on to active it, with crimsom trace being a "grab and go" button. Personally I find Crimson trace to be more pleasing to the eye, the laser max look like the Borg from Star Trek got to your revolver.

The reason why I need a laser on my revolver is for self defense and Crimson Trace's features fit the role better.

If you need a laser for a target/hunting I would go with a lasermax.

Bubsy · June 3, 2008, 11:25 PM

I'm considering getting a pair of Crimson Trace Grips for my K frame model 67 the LG207's. I see most posters comment on their use in dim light and darkness. The pistol ranges that I go to are quite bright. Do the grips work well in normal light as well, or only in dim light?

I'm also trying to track down if they are even legal in NYC. (I have an NYC Pistol Permit but shoot in Nassau County Long Island, NY)

Thanks,

Bubsy

May 15, 2008, 07:40 PM	#1
zippyfusenet Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2005 Posts: 165	Crimson Trace Grips for S&W J-Frame I was leafing through a catalog and noticed there are two different versions of Crimson Trace Laser Grips for S&W J-Frame revolvers. They're listed as: S&W J-Frame, 3.15" tall, exposes, LG405 and S&W J-Frame, 3 1/2" tall, conceals, LG305 Both versions are shown installed on S&W 642s and I can't tell the difference between them. Someone who knows, please explain to me what the one version 'exposes' and the other 'conceals'. Thank you. __________________ You'll shoot your eye out, kid!

May 15, 2008, 08:03 PM	#2
Baba Louie Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2001 Posts: 1,552	405 exposes bottom of frame, 305 (a little longer) conceals bottom of frame __________________ A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington, January 8, 1790, First State of the Union Address

May 15, 2008, 08:10 PM	#3
zippyfusenet Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2005 Posts: 165	Thank you kindly. __________________ You'll shoot your eye out, kid!

May 16, 2008, 10:40 AM	#5
DAdams Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2007 Location: East TN Posts: 521	CT If you plan on pocket carrying the CT 405s (smaller) are what you want. If you IWB/OWB or pocket carry with a shirt or jacket concealing your pocket or deep pockets the 305s might work for you if you prefer a full grip. You can simulate the 305s by trying a set of Hogue Monogrips they are about the same length as the 305s. I like the recoil reducing pocket on the 405s as well. I suspect if you do a search you will find all sorts of information. Take a look at this. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...81#post4252981 I have 405s on a 642 and a 340.

May 17, 2008, 08:06 AM	#9
zippyfusenet Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2005 Posts: 165	Thanks for all this info, fellas. You've been very helpful. __________________ You'll shoot your eye out, kid!

May 16, 2008, 08:06 AM	#4
jmorrell Member Join Date: September 2, 2007 Location: southern Maryland Posts: 86	The 305, being a bit longer, is a bit easier to grip, especially of you have larger hands. That being said, those who use a J frame as a CCW seem to prefer the 405 as it is a bit easier to conceal. I can't carry in my state, so I appreciate the extra length of the 305 on my model 60. And unlike the stock grips on the J frame, the Crimson Trace Lasergrips cover the backstrap with a layer of padding which cuts down the effect of recoil on the web of the hand.

May 16, 2008, 11:04 AM	#6
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Here's something else you may want to consider. Lasermax https://www.lasermax.com/category.php?id=8

May 16, 2008, 11:18 AM	#7
Largestal Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Posts: 30	Hmm, might have to get one of those side-mount lasers. I really like my current grip and would hate to give it up.

May 16, 2008, 10:00 PM	#8
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	The grip gets replaced too. See the switch?

May 18, 2008, 01:39 PM	#10
laktrash Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2008 Location: east tenn Posts: 200	I have S&W 640 thinking about crimson sights also where does the Lg 105 fall in this mix its the cheapest. I should have read the highroad thread before posting this sorry I'm new Last edited by laktrash; May 18, 2008 at 04:18 PM.

May 24, 2008, 09:33 AM	#11
lanternlad Member Join Date: May 31, 2007 Posts: 49	I have a CTC LG-105 on my 638. Feels like it came from the factory and carries very easily. Also can be found a lot cheaper than the 305 or 405. http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Pro...2/Default.aspx My wife doesn't like it - its not for everybody. She has the 305 on her 642.

May 24, 2008, 10:24 AM	#12
Mikeyboy Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Posts: 1,231	In doing some research between lasermax and Crimson trace there are pros and cons. Lasermax's laser is more closer to the bore and you don't have to resight them when you change out the batteries. Bad news is you have to switch it on to active it, with crimsom trace being a "grab and go" button. Personally I find Crimson trace to be more pleasing to the eye, the laser max look like the Borg from Star Trek got to your revolver. The reason why I need a laser on my revolver is for self defense and Crimson Trace's features fit the role better. If you need a laser for a target/hunting I would go with a lasermax.

June 3, 2008, 11:25 PM	#13
Bubsy Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 2006 Posts: 191	I'm considering getting a pair of Crimson Trace Grips for my K frame model 67 the LG207's. I see most posters comment on their use in dim light and darkness. The pistol ranges that I go to are quite bright. Do the grips work well in normal light as well, or only in dim light? I'm also trying to track down if they are even legal in NYC. (I have an NYC Pistol Permit but shoot in Nassau County Long Island, NY) Thanks, Bubsy