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Old August 27, 2010, 09:17 PM   #1
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Beware of the Gun Connection (SC) and Craig Prince...Dishonest Vendor???

my experience leads me to believe HE is someone to be careful in dealing with......

Below is excerpts of emails we exchanged which outline my dealings with him.....

On 07/20/2010 05:44 PM, GJG wrote:

> Craig,
>
> I ordered my extension on 5/1 and have been given 3 different schedules as you can see below
>
> on 5/4 I had received no confirmation of shipping so i inquired if it had shipped
>
> on 5/4 you responded as quoted below.
>
>> Sorry it's at least a 4 week wait. I make extensions for other shotguns as well, that no one offers extensions for. 590A1 & 500 Tactical Breacher 18.5" barrel are two. I can give you a refund. Let me know
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
>> [email protected]
>> 7103 HWY 101 N
>> GRAY COURT SC 29645
>
> I told you to proceed that i wanted it and 5 weeks later on 6/14 after i inquired about my order you replied with the following:
>
>> It will be a couple of weeks.
>>
>> CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
>> [email protected]
>> 7103 HWY 101 N
>> GRAY COURT SC 29645
>
> your latest reply 3 1/2 weeks later on 7/8 after i inquired once again was:
>
>> It has been taking around 3 months to get orders out because I have so many. I run a firearms business as well. I will be out of town for a week on business until the 16th and will get you taken care of when I get back. If you need a refund I will take care of it when I get back.
>>
>> Sorry
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
>> [email protected]
>> 7103 HWY 101 N
>> GRAY COURT SC 29645
>
> That is 3 different delivery schedules. i have been very patient....paid in advance....but as you may imagine I am getting worried. I am sorry you run a firearms business as well but i would hope you can see where I may be losing confidence in you. i have read good reviews about your extensions on several different forums and still want the one i paid for.
>
> I would hope that you would fulfill your latest schedule and have my order shipped within the next week. I believe that would be approx 90 days/3 months.
>
> Thanks


His latest reply On 07/29/2010 08:13 PM, GUN CONNECTION wrote:

> It's going to be a little longer


On 08/08/2010 03:33 PM, I wrote:

> look....i have been patient.....
>
> send the item i paid for or refund my money.....




received the following from him 8/22 11:37pm

Quote:
I going to send your order.

THANKS

CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
[email protected]
7103 HWY 101 N
GRAY COURT SC 29645
still don't have my extension....i recommend thinking twice before dealing with him......

see here for other unhappy customers:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=1&t=321984
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=109&t=795598
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1079688
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Old September 3, 2010, 10:34 AM   #2
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Same situation for me...

MAX100, from what I can gather, is on many gun forums and makes custom parts (shotgun tube extensions in my case). One was ordered and paid for in early may. He was prompt to respond and take my order via email (I found his name through a google search and he comes up on several forums including this one). I was quoted about 3 weeks for it...great....well....it's now been almost 4 months and I have not received the part and can not get any kind of reply from him through email. Reading some other forums, I am not the only one in this boat right now. I did email him after the initial 3 weeks and was pretty much told that he was busy and didn't really have time to respond to emails (tho he had no problems responding when taking the order).

So this message is to first see if anyone knows him personally that can get some kind of reply from him on what is going on. Secondly, this is to warn any potential buyers that may be sending him money right now.
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Old October 5, 2010, 02:17 PM   #3
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Gun Connection-BAD!!!

Well, I'm in the same boat, I also purchased the +2 ext tube for my Mossberg 590A1. I purchased this item in early March 2010, still I have nothing! I also paid him up front $65 in good faith. He has no communication with me at all, unless I send a rude email, he'll reply to those. He's told me numerous times that it has shipped, or will be shipped, in the end the item never arrives! Now, I'm at my limit, I told him he has until 10/31/2010, or I will cancel my order, voice my concern with GUNPAL (GPAL,) and voice my concerns on the forums! I think I'm done with him, I really feel like this item just won't show, no matter what he says! If he just said "look it really won't be done for 6 months," then fine, that would a truthful answer, but all I get is next week, next week, next month! He has still not replied to my last email, at all!

Here are the emails I saved between the two of us, they are long!

Hello- I haven't heard from you in a while, I feel like I need to cut my losses on this purchase. It doesn't seem like it will ever be done, 6 months now, and you have no communication with me. Frankly, I find this very unprofessional and bad for business. You leave me no choice, if I don't receive it by October 31, 2010, then I will proceed to cancel my order and vent my frustrations on the shotgun forums. At the very least you could have kept me up to date on the progress of the completion of the extension tube, but you have left me totally in the dark. After all this, I have paid you in full, up front, and in good faith. Too bad, I was really looking forward to your product.

Keith

--- On Wed, 8/25/10, Keith wrote:

From: Keith
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension
To: "GUN CONNECTION" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 12:24 PM

Hello- just checking in again, your last email said I was 4th in line, just wanted to see if the ext tube was close to completion? Thanks- Keith

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, Keith wrote:

From: Keith
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension
To: "GUN CONNECTION" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 4:15 PM

Well, you usually respond to my emails within 1-2 days, it's been a week now since I last emailed you, and still no reply... I really wish you could just give me a definitive date, at this point I feel like I do deserve an explanation. I've paid you in full, and you just keep telling me next week, next week. You seem very knowledgeable from the forums, and people like your product, if you're just waiting on a part or extremely backed up, I can understand that, just tell me, even if it will be a bit more longer, just tell me.

Keith

--- On Wed, 7/14/10, Keith wrote:

From: Keith
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension
To: "GUN CONNECTION" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 1:43 PM

Hello- just checking in again, I was wondering if you could give me a definitive date of delivery? Are you waiting on like a Wolff Spring or something? It just seems like a really long time now. I know you're backed up, but I have to be pretty high on the order list by now... It's just from what I've read on the forums, most of the orders seemed to have been fulfilled within 6-8 weeks, we're going on almost 5 months now. I really don't want a refund, I'd love to just get the ext. tube, I hear it's the best and to be honest there aren't many other choices for this particular shotgun. So, some kind of realistic date of delivery or information would be greatly appreciated, thanks. Keith

--- On Tue, 6/22/10, GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]> wrote:

From: GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension
To: Keith
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 2:22 PM

I am trying to have it ready next week. You will have it by the 4th.

THANKS

CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
[email protected]
7103 HWY 101 N
GRAY COURT SC 29645
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Ross
To: GUN CONNECTION
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension

Hello- checking in to see if the ext tube is close to being sent. I'm going on a hunting trip for July 4th weekend and I would love to take the ext tube with me. Is it possible to get it by then? Thanks- Keith

--- On Wed, 5/19/10, GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]> wrote:

From: GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension
To: Keith
Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 1:24 PM

I am doing the best I can. I have received more orders than expected. I run a firearms busness and don't get to work on them everyday. Making tube extensions was only going to be a part time thing and now it has become more. I stopped taking orders until I get caught up.

You are covered by GunPal buyer protection so nothing to worry about.

I can give you a refund it will only take a few minutes. If not it will be about week.

Sorry

THANKS

CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
[email protected]
7103 HWY 101 N
GRAY COURT SC 29645
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith
To: GUN CONNECTION
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension

Hello- so the last email said the item would be shipped weeks ago, and now I'm getting a little worried. Can you please give me a specific date of when the item can be shipped. I know you're making these, so I'd rather you take your time and have it done right, but I need some kind of real ETA, because it is taking a lot longer than I expected. If you could just let me know it's coming and not to worry, I would feel much better about the purchase.

Thanks- Keith

--- On Mon, 4/26/10, GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]> wrote:

From: GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension
To: Keith
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 5:18 AM

Sorry it's going to be next week I am running behind. I always email when I ship.

THANKS

CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
[email protected]
7103 HWY 101 N
GRAY COURT SC 29645
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith
To: GUN CONNECTION
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension

Hello- I was just wondering if the tube extension has shipped yet? It said roughly 3 weeks to receive the item. I'm in no hurry, but some kind of ETA would be great! Thanks- Keith


--- On Wed, 3/24/10, GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]> wrote:

From: GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension
To: Keith
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 5:18 PM

I have you down

THANKS

CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
[email protected]
7103 HWY 101 N
GRAY COURT SC 29645
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith
To: GUN CONNECTION
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension

Hello- just wanted to let you know I have just submitted payment to your email listed at Gunpal for $65, for the Mossberg +2 mag extension. Can you please let me know that you received my payment and maybe some kind of e.t.a. Looking forward to this product and thank you again.


--- On Wed, 3/10/10, GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]> wrote:

From: GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension
To: Keith
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 4:43 PM



THANK YOU!

CRAIG ==GUN CONNECTION==
[email protected]
7103 HWY 101 N
GRAY COURT SC 29645
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith
To: GUN CONNECTION
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension

That would be great! I just joined Gunpal, if you send me your info I will forward my payment. Sounds like a quality product and I have read excellent reviews on it.

Thanks- Keith

--- On Tue, 3/9/10, GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]> wrote:

From: GUN CONNECTION <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension
To: keith
Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 6:00 PM

The price is $65 shipped. It comes with a extra power Wolff spring. It's
made of high quality steel and has a very durable matte black ceramic bake
on finish that looks similar to a parkerized finish and it matches the
shotgun finish well. It will take about 3 weeks to ship. The payment options
are: USPS money order or GUNPAL by credit card.

THANKS

CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
[email protected]
7103 HWY 101 N
GRAY COURT SC 29645

----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: "MAX100" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:28 AM
Subject: Mossberg 590A1 +2 Tube Extension


> Hello MAX100,
>
> The following is an e-mail sent to you by keither via your account on
> "Shotgunworld.com". If this message is spam, contains abusive or other
> comments you find offensive please contact the webmaster of the board at
> the following address:
>
> [email protected]
>
> Include this full e-mail (particularly the headers). Please note that the
> reply address to this e-mail has been set to that of keither.
>
> Message sent to you follows
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Hello, I saw from the forums, you make a +2 magazine tube extension, for
> the Mossberg 590A1. I have the specific model #51518, it's an 18.5in
> barrel with 5+1 capacity. Please let me know if you still do make these,
> and if it's possible on my specific model, I believe it is. It would be
> great to know pricing and materials used, thanks! Keith
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Old October 5, 2010, 02:26 PM   #4
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welcome to the club!!!

here is another place with more of us!!! LOL

Max 100
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Old October 5, 2010, 02:49 PM   #5
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I have lived in Laurens county for 20 years and I've never heard of Gun Connection.

I just did a Facebook search and turned this up.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.p...2342697&ref=ts

Graycourt is a small community and so is Laurens county. Never heard or seen him before.
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Old October 9, 2010, 12:27 PM   #6
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bad facebook link....or did he take it down?
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Old October 9, 2010, 01:36 PM   #7
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He must've took it down. I have a friend that lives in Gray Court and he has never heard of him or the business. He lives off hwy 101 as well.
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Old October 20, 2010, 09:09 PM   #8
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Detective Sgt. Galarza is investigating

bgalarza at laurenssheriff.com
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Old October 21, 2010, 08:02 AM   #9
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So what is the word??
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Old October 21, 2010, 07:48 PM   #10
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no word yet....anyone who has a claim against max100 should email the detective.....
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Old October 25, 2010, 10:49 AM   #11
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Received the following response from Max100 on 08/23/10.

We'll see..........


I going to send your extension in about a week.

THANKS

CRAIG PRINCE ==GUN CONNECTION==
[email protected]
7103 HWY 101 N
GRAY COURT SC 29645
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Old November 11, 2010, 08:32 PM   #12
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Still no extension here either...I emailed the detective as well and forwarded him the emails conversation I had with max100 a few weeks ago
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