Product Warning and Question

DanThaMan1776 · April 18, 2010, 06:50 PM

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=873271

Go to that link... and then close it out and never visit it again unless you are warning a friend.

For seventy bucks, that sight is a piece of garbage. I wouldn't pay ten for it because it just sucks that bad.

I was looking for a rear sight to replace the tactical carry handle that came with my RRA carbine and this seemed like a reasonable choice. I attended an Appleseed with it (everyone should attend one of these) and after one day and about 200 rounds the sight wobbled so much it almost fell off. And that was with blue locktight on. This coupled with the sight's adjustment clicks being fuzzy and un-precise make the product so bad.

Anyone have suggestions for a better rear sight that attaches on to picatinny?

Tombstonejim · April 18, 2010, 06:59 PM

What the heck was wrong with the Rock River sight? I like mine.

tirod · April 18, 2010, 10:01 PM

The AR isn't known as a severe test of recoil for sighting mechanisms. HOW did the sight loosen up, what parts got floppy?

"200 rounds and it's floppy" implies a major maker is selling something not even airsoft capable, which is a stretch of credibility. How about posting a pic of what you have mounted up to establish that?

Just for example, was this on a 5.56 upper, or a .458 SOCOM? Inquiring minds want to know.

**JohnKSa** · April 18, 2010, 10:05 PM

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And that was with blue locktight on.

Where did you put the loctite?

madcratebuilder · April 19, 2010, 07:21 AM

Why would you need to loc-tite a rail mount sight?

Double Naught Spy · April 19, 2010, 10:21 AM

You would need to loctite it because the thumbscrews holding it in place have worked loose and continue to work loose after being tightened.

DanThaMan1776 · April 19, 2010, 02:36 PM

I put the a drip of the loctite on the tip of the screw.

And I'm not sure why you don't believe me... to what purpose would I lie about something like this? I took the sight off but If you want me to take a picture of the sight i can...

Sport45 · April 19, 2010, 08:46 PM

Why don't you post your review on the Midway site for potential purchasers to see? The current reviews lead me to believe it's not a bad sight for the money. The overall rating is 4.5 out of 5 with the worst review giving it 3 stars.

**JohnKSa** · April 19, 2010, 09:46 PM

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And I'm not sure why you don't believe me...

It's not a matter of disbelief, I was trying to figure out how it got loose and where one would put loctite to prevent that.

I'm still not exactly clear on the nature of the malfunction but I think you're saying that the screws loosened and even after you put loctite on them they still wouldn't stay tight. Is that right?

Sport45 · April 19, 2010, 09:57 PM

My experience with thumbscrews like those is that if you put a coin in the slot and snug down with a pair of pliers then they don't come loose. Trying to tighten with fingers only (as it looks like you're supposed to) will never get them tight enough.

How tight did you get them?

Scrapperz · April 19, 2010, 10:09 PM

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My experience with thumbscrews like those is that if you put a coin in the slot and snug down with a pair of pliers then they don't come loose. Trying to tighten with fingers only (as it looks like you're supposed to) will never get them tight enough.

I agree with this statement, I know from experience these thumb screws need tightening with a tool not the fingers.

DanThaMan1776 · April 21, 2010, 02:09 PM

Yes even with loctite and a hard screw-in they came loose. And I will definitely use a tool next time thanks

April 18, 2010, 06:50 PM	#1
DanThaMan1776 Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 395	Product Warning and Question http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=873271 Go to that link... and then close it out and never visit it again unless you are warning a friend. For seventy bucks, that sight is a piece of garbage. I wouldn't pay ten for it because it just sucks that bad. I was looking for a rear sight to replace the tactical carry handle that came with my RRA carbine and this seemed like a reasonable choice. I attended an Appleseed with it (everyone should attend one of these) and after one day and about 200 rounds the sight wobbled so much it almost fell off. And that was with blue locktight on. This coupled with the sight's adjustment clicks being fuzzy and un-precise make the product so bad. Anyone have suggestions for a better rear sight that attaches on to picatinny?

April 19, 2010, 10:21 AM	#6
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	You would need to loctite it because the thumbscrews holding it in place have worked loose and continue to work loose after being tightened. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

April 19, 2010, 08:46 PM	#8
Sport45 Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 1999 Location: Too close to Houston Posts: 4,196	Why don't you post your review on the Midway site for potential purchasers to see? The current reviews lead me to believe it's not a bad sight for the money. The overall rating is 4.5 out of 5 with the worst review giving it 3 stars. __________________ Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.

April 19, 2010, 09:57 PM	#10
Sport45 Senior Member Join Date: May 25, 1999 Location: Too close to Houston Posts: 4,196	My experience with thumbscrews like those is that if you put a coin in the slot and snug down with a pair of pliers then they don't come loose. Trying to tighten with fingers only (as it looks like you're supposed to) will never get them tight enough. How tight did you get them? __________________ Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.

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April 18, 2010, 06:59 PM	#2
Tombstonejim Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2007 Location: Tombstone Az Posts: 202	What the heck was wrong with the Rock River sight? I like mine.

April 18, 2010, 10:01 PM	#3
tirod Junior member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Posts: 1,672	The AR isn't known as a severe test of recoil for sighting mechanisms. HOW did the sight loosen up, what parts got floppy? "200 rounds and it's floppy" implies a major maker is selling something not even airsoft capable, which is a stretch of credibility. How about posting a pic of what you have mounted up to establish that? Just for example, was this on a 5.56 upper, or a .458 SOCOM? Inquiring minds want to know.

April 19, 2010, 07:21 AM	#5
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 4,923	Why would you need to loc-tite a rail mount sight?

April 19, 2010, 02:36 PM	#7
DanThaMan1776 Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 395	I put the a drip of the loctite on the tip of the screw. And I'm not sure why you don't believe me... to what purpose would I lie about something like this? I took the sight off but If you want me to take a picture of the sight i can...

April 21, 2010, 02:09 PM	#12
DanThaMan1776 Senior Member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 395	Yes even with loctite and a hard screw-in they came loose. And I will definitely use a tool next time thanks