February 15, 2009, 06:20 PM | #1 |
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The Glock 18
Are the Glock 18 FA pistols still being made? Are any availiable in the civilion market? Do any known LE agencies or militaries actually use them?
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February 15, 2009, 06:37 PM | #2 | |
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To answer your questions: Yes, Glock is still making the G18. However they are not available in the civilian market. Glock will only sell the G18 to LE agencies or Militaries. I'm not sure what agencies have them. It was originally developed at the request of the Austrian counter-terrorist unit EKO Cobra. Who knows if they still carry them. I was told a couple names last time I took the armorers course, but honestly don't remember. Last edited by MontyCop05; February 15, 2009 at 06:42 PM. |
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Yes a current production item. Available in the US to Governent/LE Agencies and Nuclear security just like all new production machineguns.
Glock 18s where not un the US in time to meet the cutoff to be owned by non LE/Govment agencies. There are other machine pistols available that were made before 1986 which was the manuf. cutoff. They are not uncommen in the smaller more rural areas where backup response is not so quick and the officer is on his own. Yet has other things to carry in his trunk than a full SWAT load of gear. For the smaller dept. with a smaller budget the officer can have the same fire as a submachinegun in his std. duty sidearm for the same cost as a std. duty sidearm. I can not really speak for the large metropolis since I am not there, but that is how it is here. |
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Definetly an interesting piece that would help me burn a lot of cash in a small amount of time. Semi-auto for me, for now!!!
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If you an FFL/SOT class 7, you can make the select fire part yourself and register it on a form 2. After that, it can only be sold to an FFL/SOT with an LE letter or LE.
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That's not a G18 in the youtube video; however, it is a dumbass doing the shooting.
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February 17, 2009, 03:43 AM | #8 |
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They are still being made. I am up on which agency might be using them.
However, they are very good to have a combat side arm. |
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I watched the video a couple of times and did not reaply get what happened
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Ruthless, in the video the machine pistol has a detachable front grip.
When that guy fires the last burst the front grip comes off and his left hand gets in front of the muzzle.
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Glock select fire
I shot one of our Glock 17CS select fire guns yesterday. It doesn't climb that much compared to a Mac-10 .45. I can control 3-4 round bursts but it would be tough to keep it to 2-3. I think the elusiveness of the gun itself makes a lot of people attempt to own one or at least see one shoot in person. If you can, go out and shoot an SMG M-11, Mac-10 or UZI, its fairly close and they have a faster ROF. If anyone of you guys are in Arizona, more specifically the East valley, give me a bit of notice and I can bring one out to the range.
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Ramsey County Sheriffs Dept has one, but the armorer admitted he doesn't use it for much besides training (he said he would use it as a distraction device in an adjacent lane during live fire quals-pretty expensive training tool).
I remember reading they were designed as a weapon for protection details to provide a high volume of fire if/when operators were trying to break out of an ambush, but I can see it would be effective for the same thing for an LEO in a situation where backup is a long way off. |
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That video convinced me that a machine handgun pistol is totally useless. Given the choice, from a defensive position (not just for kicks and giggles), I'd take a 10mm with 15 rounds over that Glock 18 anyday.
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I don't base my tactical decisions upon youtube videos, especially if they involve beer.
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Tamara, was it controllable?
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At the end of the video there's a black object lying on the floor. That's the forward grip that was formerly attached to the Glock. It came off during the last string of fire and when it did the shooter's hand was left holding the grip while the gun recoiled backwards. It appears to be more of an equipment failure than a shooter error.
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I have fired a Glock 18 at Midwest Gun Exchange. I was amazed at how controlable it really was after all I had read. It was nothing to keep 30 rounds in a 18" group at 10 yards. I really enjoyed that pistol.
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My last purchase was from a class 3 dealer. FWIW, he told me 2 G18's were made/slipped in under/or otherwise legal per the 1986 law. I forget his exact wording.
According to him one was made available some time ago and brought over $150,000. Dunno if its tue but thought I'd share. |
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Here's a gentleman who shows how to handle a Glock 18 in slow motion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4iBzmG40sU And this gentleman handles two G18s well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1RvT...eature=related And here you can see the cadence well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4egFj4TlPmE
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