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Old December 30, 2018, 09:39 PM   #51
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3 yards is 9 feet. It would be almost impossible for a bullet to keyhole at that distance. Are you sure the target wasn't flapping in the breeze?

If keyholing, there should be serious and obvious damage to your muzzle.
see the attatched pic, sure looks like they were not going straight to me. Indoor range, no breeze. Would not neccisarily harm the gun, could be becoming unstable after leaving the barrel, i am thinking maybe twist rate? cant seem to find the twist rate for the NAA guns
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Old December 31, 2018, 04:58 AM   #52
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3 yards is 9 feet. It would be almost impossible for a bullet to keyhole at that distance. Are you sure the target wasn't flapping in the breeze?

If keyholing, there should be serious and obvious damage to your muzzle.
It's possible, there is only an inch of rifling to stabilize the bullet and that's not much. The reason I bought a 1-5/8" instead of a 1-1/8" was the little extra bit of rifling to help minimize keyholing.

To Shadow9mm, try different .22 Mag ammo, you may find one load that shoots better than others.
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Old December 31, 2018, 02:00 PM   #53
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If there was no rifling, it would probably not keyhole at 9 feet.
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Old December 31, 2018, 02:10 PM   #54
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If there was no rifling, it would probably not keyhole at 9 feet.
I have a smoothbore adapter to shoot .22 in a .410. It keyholes at 5 yards.
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Old December 31, 2018, 02:59 PM   #55
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My Mini keyholes at 7 or so yards.
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Old December 31, 2018, 07:03 PM   #56
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These have always interested me, but see a bit on the dangerous side for accidentally shooting oneself while just handling it.
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Old December 31, 2018, 07:19 PM   #57
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It's possible, there is only an inch of rifling to stabilize the bullet and that's not much. The reason I bought a 1-5/8" instead of a 1-1/8" was the little extra bit of rifling to help minimize keyholing.

To Shadow9mm, try different .22 Mag ammo, you may find one load that shoots better than others.
I have got the 1 5/8 as well, did it for the sight radius
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These have always interested me, but see a bit on the dangerous side for accidentally shooting oneself while just handling it.
not too bad, you just need to understand a single action revolver, no more dangerous than a glock in my mind.
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Old December 31, 2018, 07:29 PM   #59
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I shot the mini one a friend had--I was actually quite surprised by it's unexpected accuracy and was hitting things like buckets at 20 yds once I got the hang of sighting it. Might even be useful as a SD weapon--a potential assailant might fall to the ground laughing for a few seconds giving you a temporary tactical advantage.
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Old December 31, 2018, 08:03 PM   #60
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I have got the 1 5/8 as well, did it for the sight radius
That's another reason I got it, albeit slight. I don't know how much an extra fraction of an inch longer sight radius does for me and shooting out to a max distance of 10 yards, but a longer sight radius doesn't hurt.
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Old January 1, 2019, 08:58 AM   #61
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I will get one eventually when I run across one that's cheap enough. They seem really cool and I have been mildly interested in them for ages. I might take it fishing with me loaded with shot shells, purely for snake use (the water moccasins around here can be very annoying).

If I had to carry a "last-ditch" tiny handgun for SD, my P32 seems like a better choice. YMMV.
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Old January 1, 2019, 09:35 AM   #62
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NAA's velocity testing: They provide data for 30 types of .22LR.
The highest average velocity was 861 fps from Rem. YellowJackets. Mean was 838fps.
CCI Stingers gave a mean velocity from two guns of 790 fps.
.22 magnums gave about 150fps more with CCI +V
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Old January 2, 2019, 11:34 AM   #63
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These have always interested me, but see a bit on the dangerous side for accidentally shooting oneself while just handling it.
How? The hammer has to be cocked for it to fire. There is a safety notch in the cylinder between chambers for the hammer to rest in. Cocking it, even the extra tiny 22 short version, is not difficult to do while keeping your booger hook off the boom switch. But it takes enough pressure to not likely be cocked unintentionally. I'm not even sure the cylinder would be indexed far enough for the hammer to hit the rim of the case with enough force to discharge it if it slipped before the hammer is fully cocked.
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Old January 19, 2019, 06:07 AM   #64
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If there was no rifling, it would probably not keyhole at 9 feet.
My Davis .22lr Derringer has - what TheBluesMan once described as "subtle" rifling . It's very, very faint land and grove (yes - singular) in one barrel does a very poor job of stabilization.
The bullets begin to tumble almost on exit from the barrel.

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Even if you don't use them for self defense they are still fun to shoot and own.

Here are a couple of mine:

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