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Old May 14, 2011, 07:57 PM   #1
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230gr LRN And Bullseye Powder

I have loaded for about 28-29 years, for 357, 44Mag, 30-06, 270.

I just started shooting 45ACP. and decided to start loading for it. I will be using Missouri Bullet Co. 230gr LRN and i have a full can of Bullseye. What would some of you recommend as a starting and max load for this bullet?

I will be firing these out of my Kimber Ultra CDP II


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Old May 14, 2011, 10:22 PM   #2
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Depends on what you're going for with your loads, but prefer 4.6 grains of Bullseye under the 230 grainers for a "softball" load. It's a pretty common load with that powder/bullet combo, and gives exceptional function and accuracy in all my 1911's.
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Old May 14, 2011, 10:55 PM   #3
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I tried the truncated cone, very hard cast bullets by Bull-X, and the standard LRN as sold by Valiant Bullets.

I also used various vintages of Bullseye powder, I had an estate sale cans that dated to the 60's and 80's. Not much of a velocity difference.

With a 230 FMJ I have been told that 5.0 grains is a ball equivalent, with the 230 LRN. I am using 4.5 grains because it gives me 800 fps which is the velocity specification for the original 1910 ammunition specification for 45 ACP. They were using a FMJ but 800 fps is the same now and then and I don't want to beat up my pistols in practice.

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Kimber Custom Classic 

230 LFN Bull-X 3.5 grs Bullseye Mixed Brass WLP OAL 1.20" taper crimp .469"	

8-Jan-06	T = 61 °F

Ave Vel =	643.6				
Std Dev =	14.07			
ES =	63.63			
High = 	679.9		 		
Low =	616.3				
N =	32
				 
shot a little high Pistol cycled each shot



230 LFN Bull-X 4.0 grs Bullseye Mixed Brass WLP OAL 1.20" taper crimp .469"		
8-Jan-06	T = 61 °F

Ave Vel =	715.9				
Std Dev =	11.45			
ES =	48.32		 		
High = 	742.9		 		
Low =	694.8				
N =	32				 
shot a little low


230 gr LRN 4.0 grs Bullseye Mixed Brass WLP OAL 1.250" taper crimp .469"		
	
29-Jan-06 T = 68  °F	
Ave Vel =698.8				
Std Dev =10.19		
ES =36.33		 		
High = 713.5				
Low =677.1				
N =28
				 
V. Accurate
		
230 gr LRN  4.5 grs Bullseye Mixed Brass WLP OAL 1.250" taper crimp .469"		
21-Jun-06 T = 97  °F	
	
Ave Vel = 805.2		
Std Dev =11.4		
ES=54.08		
High=836.9		 
Low=782.8		 
       N =32


230 gr LRN  4.5 grs Bullseye lot BE532 (80's mfgr)  Mixed Brass WLP (brass) OAL 1.250" taper crimp .469"
16-May-09  high 83  °F	 
					
Ave Vel =	782.7				
Std Dev =	13.41				
ES =	52.05				
High = 	815.5				
Low =	763.4				
N =	28				
					
					
230 gr LRN  4.5 grs Bullseye 99' & 2005 mixed lot Mixed Brass WLP (brass) OAL 1.250"  taper crimp469"
16-May-09  high 83  °F	.
					
Ave Vel =	805.2				
Std Dev =	38.07				
ES =	136.9				
High = 	912.4				
Low =	775.5				
N =	24				
					

230 gr LRN  4.5 grs Bullseye lot 827 (60's/70's powder) Mixed Brass WLP (brass) OAL 1.250" taper crimp .469"
16-May-09	 high 83  °F	
					
Ave Vel =	822.9				
Std Dev =	14.14				
ES =	55.24				
High = 	853.7				
Low =	798.4				
N =	26		


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Old May 15, 2011, 09:10 AM   #4
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The 45 ACP dosn't need hyper velocity to work. In the 70s I was in the search for a target load using 230 LRN ACP rounds and ran accross a recommended Bullseye Match load in the American Riflemen. 3.8 grns of Bullseye.

Its accurate, mild, easy on the gun and shooter. I've been using that load every since. In shooting steel I've never had a plate or popper fail to fall when hit.

I don't remember the velocity, simply because I don't care. It makes it to the target, does the job, and best of all, its Accurate.
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Old May 15, 2011, 09:25 AM   #5
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I run 4.6 gr of Bullseye behind the Missouri 230 gr Softball. It was the most accurate load for my application. A nice midrange load.
My 1911 and my Witness both shoot it well.
Max I think was somewhere in the low 5ish range. Max loads of Bullseye are pointless in my opinion. Bullseye does it's best work in the low to midrange. It's a poor choice if you want to explore the high end. Pressures peak well before you get any good velocity increases. If for some reason I needed more velocity, I would switch to Unique or HS-6.
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Old May 15, 2011, 12:51 PM   #6
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Thank you all for your responses. I am looking for a nice fairly easy target load. It looks like 4.5 gr is going to be the ticket. When I was asking for max, I wasn't looking to shoot a max load, I was wondering where max would be before you encounter problems with a LRN bullet, as I am not looking to shoot max loads, just didn't want to encounter leading problems with a LRN bullet.


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Old May 15, 2011, 02:28 PM   #7
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From my Lyman manual for 225 grain LRN.

4.0 grains of Bullseye for 680 fps at 10,100 CUP
5.0 grains of Bullseye for 815 fps at 14,400 CUP

OAL 1.272"

You can obviously go below 4 grains with no problems, probably down to the point where your gun won't cycle anymore and be fine.
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