11-48, can I use a non-toxic antimony or bismuth allow shot?

doofus47 · January 26, 2015, 02:22 PM

Hey all,
I inherited a Remington 11-48 (12 gauge, modified choke) from my father after his passing. It looked very good for sitting next to the water cleaner for 20 years back at the homestead... I took it apart and cleaned it, but since I'm mostly a rifle guy it's been sitting in the back of my safe for several more years since its arrival.
Well, I finally got it out a few weeks ago to wander around with a buddy who was training his dog. I took some WinchesterX #6 and low and behold I shot some birds. I chalk it up to mostly beginner's luck.

Still it seemed to group well out to 30 yards (my longest shot) and was really low recoiling. A real pleasure to shoot.
Anyhow, I might take it out again in the future. More upland and maybe some waterfowl, if that becomes possible. If I do, I'd like to use non-toxic shot for hunting.
Does anyhow here think that an antimony or bismuth allow non-toxic shot would be damaging to this barrel?

Bake · January 26, 2015, 04:21 PM

You need to determine what choke your barrel has using today's modern ammunition. When you Dad's shotgun was made, ('48 to '68) those barrels were very tight, compared to the chokes of today.

Virginian · January 26, 2015, 08:10 PM

Antimony is not a non tox alternative, it is used to harden lead shot.
Bismuth, Nice Shot, and Kent tungsten matrix are safe non tox alternatives in guns not rated for steel. Remington used to say any barrel made since 1950. modified or more open choke, and no size larger then #2 was okay with steel.

Bake · January 27, 2015, 12:56 PM

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Remington used to say any barrel made since 1950. modified or more open choke, and no size larger then #2 was okay with steel.

Good to know, I've heard about the Mod or more open chokes, and the #2 and smaller, but the 1950 and newer barrels was news to me...

doofus47 · January 28, 2015, 11:37 AM

Thanks for the help, all

publius · January 31, 2015, 12:16 AM

Everybody answered your question. I just wanted to say that the 11-48 is the best auto Rem. ever made, in my opinion.

January 26, 2015, 02:22 PM	#1
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	11-48, can I use a non-toxic antimony or bismuth allow shot? Hey all, I inherited a Remington 11-48 (12 gauge, modified choke) from my father after his passing. It looked very good for sitting next to the water cleaner for 20 years back at the homestead... I took it apart and cleaned it, but since I'm mostly a rifle guy it's been sitting in the back of my safe for several more years since its arrival. Well, I finally got it out a few weeks ago to wander around with a buddy who was training his dog. I took some WinchesterX #6 and low and behold I shot some birds. I chalk it up to mostly beginner's luck. Still it seemed to group well out to 30 yards (my longest shot) and was really low recoiling. A real pleasure to shoot. Anyhow, I might take it out again in the future. More upland and maybe some waterfowl, if that becomes possible. If I do, I'd like to use non-toxic shot for hunting. Does anyhow here think that an antimony or bismuth allow non-toxic shot would be damaging to this barrel? __________________ I'm right about the metric system 3/4 of the time.

January 26, 2015, 08:10 PM	#3
Virginian Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2012 Location: Williamsburg, Va. Posts: 1,528	Antimony is not a non tox alternative, it is used to harden lead shot. Bismuth, Nice Shot, and Kent tungsten matrix are safe non tox alternatives in guns not rated for steel. Remington used to say any barrel made since 1950. modified or more open choke, and no size larger then #2 was okay with steel. __________________ What could have happened... did.

January 28, 2015, 11:37 AM	#5
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	Thanks for the help, all __________________ I'm right about the metric system 3/4 of the time.

January 26, 2015, 04:21 PM	#2
Bake Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2012 Location: San Joaquin Valley, Calif. Posts: 482	You need to determine what choke your barrel has using today's modern ammunition. When you Dad's shotgun was made, ('48 to '68) those barrels were very tight, compared to the chokes of today. __________________ 1. The pattern board is your friend, use the Dam thing!!! 2. The maximum range of a firearm and/or cartridge, is usually measured in miles, and means nothing. 2a. The effective range of a firearm and/or cartridge, is usually (the ability of the shooter) measured in yards, and means everything.

January 31, 2015, 12:16 AM	#6
publius Senior Member Join Date: January 25, 2005 Location: Mississippi/Texas Posts: 2,505	Everybody answered your question. I just wanted to say that the 11-48 is the best auto Rem. ever made, in my opinion. __________________ "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress, but I repeat myself." Mark Twain