Which handgun manufacturers test fire before shipping?

sirgilligan · July 18, 2011, 10:05 PM

I was wondering which handgun manufacturers test fire the gun before shipping.

Also, do they ship the spent brass and a target showing the results of the firing?

This question implies which handgun manufacturers do not test fire their guns before shipping.

My S&W Walther PPK/S came with an envelope with spent brass in it.
It has been 27 years but it seems like my S&W Model 659 had some spent brass with it, but I am not sure.
My recent Browning BHP's have an envelope in each case that feels like there is brass in there, but never got around to opening it up.
My Sig P238, Sig P229, and Sig 556 did not have any used brass.
My other recent purchases were used so no info to be gathered there.

Now just because there was no brass doesn't not prove that the weapon wasn't test fired at the factory. It just shows there is no brass shipped. Brass in the package does show test firing.

maxman894 · July 18, 2011, 10:09 PM

As far as I am aware of, most if not all companies test fire their weapons.

However, I may be wrong.

Mr.Blue · July 18, 2011, 10:11 PM

CZ test fires it and includes a print out of the results of 5 shots. Ironically, they do not enclose a spent casing.

Vividia · July 18, 2011, 10:22 PM

S&W does
FN does

memory banks not coming up with more at the moment, but i think walther does too, can't remember on the rest

maxman894 · July 18, 2011, 10:32 PM

I know for a fact that Heritage, Ruger, Springfield, and Kimber does.

Straightshooter629 · July 18, 2011, 10:40 PM

Springfield does, and includes a spent casing with each handgun.

DPris · July 18, 2011, 11:10 PM

Most of the major & minor names proof test, which is a form of test fire. Few nowdays test for accuracy.
The fired brass from those who ship them is included for those states that require one.
Denis

DeepEastKilla · July 19, 2011, 12:27 AM

Just got a heritage that came with a test fired round. Atlantic Firearms does not. Ive got a friend that got an Ak underfolder from them last week and it wouldnt even chamber a round.

10-96 · July 19, 2011, 12:44 AM

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CZ test fires it and includes a print out of the results of 5 shots. Ironically, they do not enclose a spent casing.

I wonder when they stopped that? Mine are 9 and 10 yrs old and both of them showed up with 2 empties each.

Falcon642 · July 19, 2011, 02:00 AM

Bersa does.

mete · July 19, 2011, 03:22 AM

Certain states such as NY require "ballistic fingerprints" .That means the gun must be fired and you get a case and the state does also as I understand. That is different from firing for accuracy , then you get a target. They may also fire for proper functioning.

MidwestRookie · July 19, 2011, 03:44 AM

I'd guess all but a select, crappy few..

Beretta does.

Don Glock · July 19, 2011, 04:21 AM

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Certain states such as NY require "ballistic fingerprints" .That means the gun must be fired and you get a case and the state does also as I understand. That is different from firing for accuracy , then you get a target. They may also fire for proper functioning.

yeah, Maryland does that too. the spent casings must be unopened, and sent by the FFL to the state. nonsense. glad i don't live in those states.

dajowi · July 19, 2011, 07:04 AM

I didn't get a spent shell casing with my Manurhin/Walther PPK/S .22. However, I did get the target, (shot at 15 meters) with the guns' serial number and signed by the shooter

sirgilligan · July 19, 2011, 07:46 AM

So are all guns test fired for a pressure test? I wonder.

I hadn't considered it but there could be test fire for function and test fire for accuracy.

TailGator · July 19, 2011, 08:23 AM

Glock provides 2 spent casings, as well, for the above reasons. The list of those who don't is going to be way shorter.

coop2564 · July 19, 2011, 09:01 AM

Rock Island does 2 spent cases.

peacefulgary · July 19, 2011, 09:40 AM

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CZ test fires it and includes a print out of the results of 5 shots. Ironically, they do not enclose a spent casing.

I wonder when they stopped that? Mine are 9 and 10 yrs old and both of them showed up with 2 empties each.

Same here....
The CZ that I bought came with the two empty casings but no printout of 5 shots being fired.
I purchased it back in 2009.

All of my Glocks, and my XD, and my Ruger all came with two empties each.

EdInk · July 19, 2011, 10:12 AM

IIRC Atlantic Firearms is not a manufacturer. I believe they are simply a retailer or importer. If you look on the website (or rifle) it will tell the actual manufacturer and/or importer.

AK rifles are little unique because there are laws requiring a certain number of domestic parts to be legal. Most AK rifles, are assembled by CAI (Century Arms) from surplus "parts kits" and some US made parts to make them compliant. CAI has a reputation for quality control issues. Also, some AK variants are simply better than other variants.

Mr.Blue · July 19, 2011, 06:07 PM

I may be moving back to NY. If so, do I need to have my FFL dealer in WI include spent casings? I hate NY.

Stealth01 · July 19, 2011, 06:26 PM

I believe Wilson Combat fires each weapon ~85 times before shipping with the last three rounds fired for "score"! The "score" target is included with each gun.

redstategunnut · July 19, 2011, 06:31 PM

Nighthawk also sends a test target with spent casing or two.

shanzlik · July 19, 2011, 07:13 PM

STI does. I've been to the factory and saw the range.

Stressfire · July 19, 2011, 09:16 PM

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Falcon642: Bersa does.

That they do, they package the bullet with the pistol.

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MidwestRookie: Beretta does.

They do, but I did not get the test bullet in the box

Some even include the target, Ruger, Winchester, Remington & Browning if I recall correctly, though it usually applies to rifles and sports pistols.

Deja vu · July 19, 2011, 09:37 PM

all the guns I have bought recently have had test fires.

Coonan, Magnum research (BFR), Ruger New Vaquero and Marlin

July 18, 2011, 10:05 PM	#1
sirgilligan Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2009 Posts: 614	Which handgun manufacturers test fire before shipping? I was wondering which handgun manufacturers test fire the gun before shipping. Also, do they ship the spent brass and a target showing the results of the firing? This question implies which handgun manufacturers do not test fire their guns before shipping. My S&W Walther PPK/S came with an envelope with spent brass in it. It has been 27 years but it seems like my S&W Model 659 had some spent brass with it, but I am not sure. My recent Browning BHP's have an envelope in each case that feels like there is brass in there, but never got around to opening it up. My Sig P238, Sig P229, and Sig 556 did not have any used brass. My other recent purchases were used so no info to be gathered there. Now just because there was no brass doesn't not prove that the weapon wasn't test fired at the factory. It just shows there is no brass shipped. Brass in the package does show test firing. __________________ SirGilligan - "If you find your back is up against a wall, maybe you have been backing up for too long." iOS Apps: BallisticsGL Gun Log Gun Log SPC WatchForce

July 19, 2011, 03:22 AM	#11
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Certain states such as NY require "ballistic fingerprints" .That means the gun must be fired and you get a case and the state does also as I understand. That is different from firing for accuracy , then you get a target. They may also fire for proper functioning. __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

July 19, 2011, 07:46 AM	#15
sirgilligan Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2009 Posts: 614	So are all guns test fired for a pressure test? I wonder. I hadn't considered it but there could be test fire for function and test fire for accuracy. __________________ SirGilligan - "If you find your back is up against a wall, maybe you have been backing up for too long." iOS Apps: BallisticsGL Gun Log Gun Log SPC WatchForce

July 19, 2011, 10:12 AM	#19
EdInk Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2009 Posts: 3,968	IIRC Atlantic Firearms is not a manufacturer. I believe they are simply a retailer or importer. If you look on the website (or rifle) it will tell the actual manufacturer and/or importer. AK rifles are little unique because there are laws requiring a certain number of domestic parts to be legal. Most AK rifles, are assembled by CAI (Century Arms) from surplus "parts kits" and some US made parts to make them compliant. CAI has a reputation for quality control issues. Also, some AK variants are simply better than other variants. __________________ Sic Semper Tyrannis

July 19, 2011, 06:26 PM	#21
Stealth01 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 240	I believe Wilson Combat fires each weapon ~85 times before shipping with the last three rounds fired for "score"! The "score" target is included with each gun. __________________ Ken

July 18, 2011, 10:09 PM	#2
maxman894 Senior Member Join Date: July 2, 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 141	As far as I am aware of, most if not all companies test fire their weapons. However, I may be wrong.

July 18, 2011, 10:11 PM	#3
Mr.Blue Junior member Join Date: May 30, 2011 Location: SE Wisconsin & Long Island, NY Posts: 418	CZ test fires it and includes a print out of the results of 5 shots. Ironically, they do not enclose a spent casing.

July 18, 2011, 10:22 PM	#4
Vividia Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2010 Posts: 126	S&W does FN does memory banks not coming up with more at the moment, but i think walther does too, can't remember on the rest

July 18, 2011, 10:32 PM	#5
maxman894 Senior Member Join Date: July 2, 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 141	I know for a fact that Heritage, Ruger, Springfield, and Kimber does.

July 18, 2011, 10:40 PM	#6
Straightshooter629 Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 475	Springfield does, and includes a spent casing with each handgun.

July 18, 2011, 11:10 PM	#7
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Most of the major & minor names proof test, which is a form of test fire. Few nowdays test for accuracy. The fired brass from those who ship them is included for those states that require one. Denis

July 19, 2011, 12:27 AM	#8
DeepEastKilla Member Join Date: October 10, 2009 Posts: 81	Just got a heritage that came with a test fired round. Atlantic Firearms does not. Ive got a friend that got an Ak underfolder from them last week and it wouldnt even chamber a round.

July 19, 2011, 02:00 AM	#10
Falcon642 Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 2010 Posts: 316	Bersa does.

July 19, 2011, 03:44 AM	#12
MidwestRookie Senior Member Join Date: September 4, 2010 Location: IL Posts: 462	I'd guess all but a select, crappy few.. Beretta does.

July 19, 2011, 07:04 AM	#14
dajowi Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2005 Posts: 1,196	I didn't get a spent shell casing with my Manurhin/Walther PPK/S .22. However, I did get the target, (shot at 15 meters) with the guns' serial number and signed by the shooter

July 19, 2011, 08:23 AM	#16
TailGator Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 3,787	Glock provides 2 spent casings, as well, for the above reasons. The list of those who don't is going to be way shorter.

July 19, 2011, 09:01 AM	#17
coop2564 Senior Member Join Date: March 4, 2011 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 330	Rock Island does 2 spent cases.

July 19, 2011, 06:07 PM	#20
Mr.Blue Junior member Join Date: May 30, 2011 Location: SE Wisconsin & Long Island, NY Posts: 418	I may be moving back to NY. If so, do I need to have my FFL dealer in WI include spent casings? I hate NY.

July 19, 2011, 06:31 PM	#22
redstategunnut Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 2009 Location: see name Posts: 405	Nighthawk also sends a test target with spent casing or two.

July 19, 2011, 07:13 PM	#23
shanzlik Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 547	STI does. I've been to the factory and saw the range. __________________ TSRA Life Member, NRA Endowment Life Member, SAF Life Member My EDC - STI Shadow My blog - firearm reviews, etc.

July 19, 2011, 09:37 PM	#25
Deja vu Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Border of Idaho & Montana Posts: 2,584	all the guns I have bought recently have had test fires. Coonan, Magnum research (BFR), Ruger New Vaquero and Marlin __________________ Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull. all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...