stun gun

willrussellville · February 21, 2011, 05:21 PM

I know very little (actually nothing) about stun guns. But after reading through this thread "Interesting encounter - advice, please." , which I found very interesting, I wonder about the effectiveness of this product. I did not want to hijack the other thread with this question, How good are these products? They work great in the movie but what about real life? I believe some LEO carry?

sorry, here is link to other thread http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441655

raimius · February 21, 2011, 05:42 PM

Well, there are many types of "stun guns." Some are better than others. Tazers are probably the best known and respected.

For the Tazer:
As long as everything works as advertized, it is almost instantly incapacitating for almost every person. (Nothing is perfect.)
The potential problems for tazers are limited range, 1 shot cartridge, and if both probes don't pierce the skin, it doesn't work. (Most tazers can be used as a contact stun-gun as well.)

Skans · February 22, 2011, 09:14 AM

One thing about stun guns - they are easier to ban than guns. If you want one, buy it now. I don't believe that they are as ineffective as some folks make them out to be. Just another tool in the belt.

egor20 · February 22, 2011, 10:45 AM

Roped moose not affected by Taser attempt

February 15, 2011
Fairbanks Daily News Miner

FAIRBANKS — Biologists with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game have failed in their attempts to Taser a cow moose roaming a Fairbanks neighborhood with a rope around its neck, so they decided to let nature take its course.

http://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/2...-by-taser.html

Jeff F · February 22, 2011, 10:53 AM

Contact type stun guns can be very effective, but you have to use it properly. If you just give someone a quick little zap they will recover pretty quick. If you have to use one you have to go on the attack with it and keep shocking, 10 to 30 seconds should do it. Exposed skin on the neck and throat are good targets. After you do the deed, leave, retreat, do not hang around.
If you are going to go the stun gun route buy a good one, don't bet your life on a $19.99 stun gun from behind the counter at the local jiffy mart.

Skans · February 22, 2011, 11:10 AM

Quote:

If you are going to go the stun gun route buy a good one, don't bet your life on a $19.99 stun gun from behind the counter at the local jiffy mart.

And that's the problem thats always held me back from buying a stun gun. I have tried, and tried and tried to research which stun guns are actually well made and most effective. I know that you can't go by the "2 million" volts information. But, I have yet to figure out an honest way to compare them.

See, with guns, you have forums like this one - we learn valuable information and get information from everyone's experiences. We learn about "torture tests", and effectiveness of calibers and ammo. Lots of information about training and how to properly carry and use guns. Try doing that research on stunguns and most of what you will find is a bunch of hyped up hokey BS.

Jeff F · February 22, 2011, 11:18 AM

Skans, your last post is on the money. All I can say is Taser has been making them for a long time, contact as well as the air powered and IMO are a cut above the rest.

willrussellville · February 22, 2011, 02:39 PM

I started this question just as curiosity. I now am questioning as the above, how do I know it will work. I believe LEO actually use it on each other during training, could one or two or two of you comment?

Skans · February 22, 2011, 03:25 PM

The air powered tasers are too bulky, cumbersome, and just look difficult to use. It's 20 times easier for me to just carry my AMT .45 backup which is much more effective anyway.

Well, this thread might get shut down - not really gun related, but before it does, if anyone can point those of us interested to a user-based forum that discusses stun guns, I'd appreciate it.

atlctyslkr · February 23, 2011, 11:18 AM

What about the legalities of carrying/using a stun gun? I don't know every state's laws but I would think that in some cases a firearm might be legal to carry but a stun gun would not be?

Ben Towe · February 23, 2011, 11:29 AM

For someone living where you cannot carry a handgun (i.e. New England, West Coast), a taser could be a viable option. As far as legality, illegal or not, a Taser or stun gun is non-lethal and therefore would be viewed with much less prejudice than an illegal handgun, in my opinion. Look up the tasered bull on YouTube if you want to see effectiveness.

February 21, 2011, 05:21 PM	#1
willrussellville Member Join Date: May 26, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 78	stun gun I know very little (actually nothing) about stun guns. But after reading through this thread "Interesting encounter - advice, please." , which I found very interesting, I wonder about the effectiveness of this product. I did not want to hijack the other thread with this question, How good are these products? They work great in the movie but what about real life? I believe some LEO carry? sorry, here is link to other thread http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441655 __________________ Help others reach their dreams and most of your dreams will come true.... Last edited by willrussellville; February 21, 2011 at 05:23 PM. Reason: add link

February 22, 2011, 10:45 AM	#4
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	Just don't try it on a moose Roped moose not affected by Taser attempt February 15, 2011 Fairbanks Daily News Miner FAIRBANKS — Biologists with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game have failed in their attempts to Taser a cow moose roaming a Fairbanks neighborhood with a rope around its neck, so they decided to let nature take its course. http://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/2...-by-taser.html __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

February 22, 2011, 02:39 PM	#8
willrussellville Member Join Date: May 26, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 78	LEO opininion?? I started this question just as curiosity. I now am questioning as the above, how do I know it will work. I believe LEO actually use it on each other during training, could one or two or two of you comment? __________________ Help others reach their dreams and most of your dreams will come true....

February 23, 2011, 11:29 AM	#11
Ben Towe Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2009 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 1,128	For someone living where you cannot carry a handgun (i.e. New England, West Coast), a taser could be a viable option. As far as legality, illegal or not, a Taser or stun gun is non-lethal and therefore would be viewed with much less prejudice than an illegal handgun, in my opinion. Look up the tasered bull on YouTube if you want to see effectiveness. __________________ 'Merica: Back to back World War Champs

February 21, 2011, 05:42 PM	#2
raimius Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2008 Posts: 2,199	Well, there are many types of "stun guns." Some are better than others. Tazers are probably the best known and respected. For the Tazer: As long as everything works as advertized, it is almost instantly incapacitating for almost every person. (Nothing is perfect.) The potential problems for tazers are limited range, 1 shot cartridge, and if both probes don't pierce the skin, it doesn't work. (Most tazers can be used as a contact stun-gun as well.)

February 22, 2011, 09:14 AM	#3
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	One thing about stun guns - they are easier to ban than guns. If you want one, buy it now. I don't believe that they are as ineffective as some folks make them out to be. Just another tool in the belt.

February 22, 2011, 10:53 AM	#5
Jeff F Senior Member Join Date: September 4, 2005 Location: Silver Springs NV Posts: 187	Contact type stun guns can be very effective, but you have to use it properly. If you just give someone a quick little zap they will recover pretty quick. If you have to use one you have to go on the attack with it and keep shocking, 10 to 30 seconds should do it. Exposed skin on the neck and throat are good targets. After you do the deed, leave, retreat, do not hang around. If you are going to go the stun gun route buy a good one, don't bet your life on a $19.99 stun gun from behind the counter at the local jiffy mart.

February 22, 2011, 11:18 AM	#7
Jeff F Senior Member Join Date: September 4, 2005 Location: Silver Springs NV Posts: 187	Skans, your last post is on the money. All I can say is Taser has been making them for a long time, contact as well as the air powered and IMO are a cut above the rest.

February 22, 2011, 03:25 PM	#9
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	The air powered tasers are too bulky, cumbersome, and just look difficult to use. It's 20 times easier for me to just carry my AMT .45 backup which is much more effective anyway. Well, this thread might get shut down - not really gun related, but before it does, if anyone can point those of us interested to a user-based forum that discusses stun guns, I'd appreciate it.

February 23, 2011, 11:18 AM	#10
atlctyslkr Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 613	What about the legalities of carrying/using a stun gun? I don't know every state's laws but I would think that in some cases a firearm might be legal to carry but a stun gun would not be?