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Old July 25, 2017, 06:09 AM   #1
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Security Industries Revolver

Does anyone have an original manual, exploded drawing, warranty card or parts list? I'd like to get a copy of any or all of them if you do.

I'm sure someone out there has some paper work who's willing to share a copy or two with me. I'd appreciate it.
I'm not finding anything on line anywhere. I'm running out of places to look.
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Old August 13, 2017, 06:29 AM   #2
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Old August 14, 2017, 09:54 AM   #3
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Found this, which tells us why there probably isn't going to be much out there:

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/forum/h...ries357-238371

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A questionable bargin at best..... These came to be in 1976 and the company was out of buisness a short time later..The reason being...That Stainless steel for guns was fairly new..basically two types...one tended to be brittle and the other was buttery..both made machining difficult...The guns themselves were investment cast to reduce the maching needed..The thing that put the company out of buisness was that the guns fractured on firing..some gently...others like a grenade.

I was an armorer for the Sheriff's Office at the time.and several Deputies jumped on these...mainly because we were on an island sticking out into the Atlantic. A local gun store gave officers a reduced price....6 officers bought them along with factory ammo...4 of them came apart on the first range session This bankrupted the comoany

Here is the particulars on the company and the gun

Security Industries of America

Little Ferry,NJ USA

Born 1976..they made an all SS 5 shot revolver in 38 Special and in 357 magnum...Basically a copy of the S&W line Both chamberings used an exact same size frame as the S&W Model 60..BUT SIZE..Dimensions were they only thing the same...not part

Book value on the Model PPM357: Exc. $225 VG=$175....GD=$150

The PSS38 is worth less

Exc=$150...VG=$125 GD=$110

The copy in the Gun Digest Book of Modern Gun Valuse states...

Revolver Double action....357 Mag...5-shot...2" bbl... 6 1/8" OAL...fixed sights.... walnut grips...Stainless Steel....Introduced in 1976 with a spurless hammer and was converted to a conventional hammer in 1977 Production ceased in 1977

The 38 version was intro in1973 and dropped in1977

I know of no reserve parts stocked anywhere....The only parts may be from parted out guns and from the production life data...there may not be many of those
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Old August 15, 2017, 11:59 AM   #4
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Yeah, I saw that before and thanks for the update. Still, someone- somewhere must have that info and not realizing it. I just have to find them or vice-versa.
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Old August 20, 2017, 11:45 AM   #5
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Old August 24, 2017, 01:20 PM   #6
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That paper work is out there somewhere.
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Old August 29, 2017, 09:02 PM   #7
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Nothing so far.
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Old August 30, 2017, 10:13 AM   #8
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I'd routinely check ebay with a few search parameters.
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Old August 31, 2017, 06:35 AM   #9
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Thanks for the tip. I do check every day on Ebay, GunBroker, The High Road and this forum. Seems very elusive to say the least.
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Old September 9, 2017, 09:38 PM   #10
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Old September 26, 2017, 06:29 AM   #11
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Old September 26, 2017, 03:01 PM   #12
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Give this place a try, their a reproduction print shop located in
here in Michigan, I've had good luck with them. Disregard the
Krieghoff Drilling paper, go to their (other items) and do a search.

Good luck.
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Old September 26, 2017, 07:37 PM   #13
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All that I could find was a quick mention in a column by Massad Ayoob about the demise of Security Industries from an issue of The American Handgunner from 1978.

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There's always the bad news, of course.
Security Industries, according to the insiders,
is dead. We knew that the plant
closed up a few months ago, right after
this column came out announcing that
company's planned move to Alabama, but
we were keeping our fingers crossed, even
though that padlock and the poster on the
door signed by the sheriff looked kind of
ominous.
Joe Lee, president of Security Industries,
has been unavailable for comment.
His fine little stainless-steel "J-frame" .38
and .357 snub nose guns were never famous
for great workmanship. But Lord,
they were slick. Trouble was, some production
runs would come through sparkling
and perking, and others would have a
high number of guns that were out of
time.
What went wrong? Probably a lot of
things, but one we can point to is cheap labor.
Joe never was able to get a good
skilled craftsman team together, and people
paid minimal wage or less produce
equivalent quality goods. Joe had hoped
to go someplace where labor was both
cheap and good, and apparently couldn't
hold out long enough to make the transition.
The death of a fine or potentially fine
handgun is sad news, and we go into it
only because there may be a few lessons to
those who follow. We hear through the
grapevine that an established firm had offered
to buy Joe out, not only keeping him
for life as a high-salaried management
employee, but offering permanent jobs to
his two capable sons. The price offered
was said to have been excellent in addition
to the sinecure jobs and perks. Joe turned
it down, probably out of pride; a company
you build from nothing is precious to you,
and you don't let somebody else adopt it,
even if they do promise to take better care
of it and still give you visitation rights.
Will the Security revolver be reborn?
,Some of us had hoped so, but it looks increasingly
doubtful. The auction of the
manufacturing layout should be over by
the time you read this, and the several industry
people I've talked to are convinced
that the Security production line will be
sold piecemeal to this firm that needs a
Bridgeport lathe or two, and that one that
could use a milling machine.
Ironically, a cabal of well-financed gun
buffs that wanted to try and buy Joe back
out of receivership and re-establish the
plant in northern New England, with him
still at the helm, wasn't able to get through
to him because he secluded himself when
the financial roof caved in. For consumers
the word is, it would be a good idea to
hold onto any Security Industries revolver
you have, because it will eventually be a
collector's item. A good one is an outstanding
"user's" gun as well. This writer
has three, and carries his Security Police
Pocket Magnum, a Chief-Special-size
357 in stainless, more often than his
model 60 or his Detective Special.
Wish I could be of more help, but best of luck to you.
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Old September 26, 2017, 08:42 PM   #14
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Very sharp revolvers!
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Old September 27, 2017, 12:39 PM   #15
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Nothing at Krieghoff Drilling. It was worth a shot, no pun intended.
Here are mine:
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Old September 28, 2017, 12:38 PM   #16
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Check with this guy: http://stores.ebay.com/Rediscovered-...easures?_rdc=1
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Old September 28, 2017, 06:59 PM   #17
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Nothing at Rediscovered Treasurers. I also checked for Indian Arms pistol too- nothing.

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Old October 23, 2017, 10:41 AM   #18
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Old November 21, 2017, 07:17 AM   #19
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Old November 21, 2017, 11:09 AM   #20
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Old November 21, 2017, 03:54 PM   #21
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Ah, inspector- I was waiting for you!
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Old November 22, 2017, 12:03 AM   #22
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Nothing at Rediscovered Treasurers. I also checked for Indian Arms pistol too- nothing.
Did you contact them directly? If you do they can be on the lookout for you. Same with some of the other Ebay gun catalog and printed materials fellas. Some of them have a very broad reach.

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Old November 22, 2017, 03:30 PM   #23
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Not directly.

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Old November 22, 2017, 03:39 PM   #24
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Just sent them an email.
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Old November 22, 2017, 04:05 PM   #25
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That was quick! No, Rediscovered Treasures don't have it. It was worth a shot.
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