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May 17, 2018, 06:19 AM | #1 |
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Traveling through Illinois with a gun
I'm heading for Iowa in a few days and I want to take a handgun or two with me.
I'll be transiting Illinois, not stopping overnight, but I may stop for dinner. I've read a bunch of stuff from the ISP, NRA-ILA and others, but just wondering if anyone has any tips beyond that? The gun will be in a locked case in the back of my SUV along with the rest of my luggage.
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May 17, 2018, 06:40 AM | #2 |
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In a closed case, unloaded, and not readily accessible and you should be fine. Illinois (not counting Chicago) is not as bad as "the internet experts" claim it to be. I still have an "evil black rifle" with 30 round mags, >10 round mags for handguns, etc. Just try to avoid buying gas here, the taxes are terrible.
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May 17, 2018, 07:29 AM | #3 |
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Excellent. Thanks, Mike, that's pretty much what I was led to believe by my reading.
I'm thinking I'm going to take a Smith .40 and a Smith snub revolver with me, and I'll get ammunition when I get to my destination (at least for the .40). "Just try to avoid buying gas here, the taxes are terrible." I routinely travel in Pennsylvania because I have family and business there. Pennsylvania has, by far, the highest gasoline taxes in the nation -- 58.2 cents a gallon on TOP of the Federal taxes -- but some of the worst roads, as well. And, in fact, right now, gasoline prices in Champaigne are slightly less that gas prices in my area of Virginia...
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May 17, 2018, 10:30 AM | #4 | |
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Although this source seems to agree with you: http://www.api.org/~/media/Files/Sta...ne-Tax-Map.pdf |
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May 17, 2018, 10:47 AM | #5 |
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This is what I was going with:
https://taxfoundation.org/state-gaso...ax-rates-2017/ OH! Your first link? It was last updated in 2012. That's the problem. Pennsylvania has steadily ramped up its gas taxes over the last several years.
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May 17, 2018, 02:34 PM | #6 |
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I always thought my state had the highest gas taxes in the country. We're still in the top ten, but PA has us beat. I'm actually amazed -- I don't understand how my governor could have allowed PA to leapfrog us so decisively.
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May 17, 2018, 03:31 PM | #7 |
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If you have a CCL in your home state you can have a loaded handgun in your vehicle in Illinois, yes even in Chicago. Handgun laws in Chicago are no different than the rest of the state thanks to preemption. And yes even transport is preempted under Illinois state law.
If you don't have a CCL it only has to be unloaded and in a case. And just about anything counts as a case, even the glove compartment or center console. You can have a loaded magazine in the same case as the gun, just so long as it's not inserted in the gun and the chamber is empty. Illinois isn't as bad as people make it out to be, not yet anyway. |
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Here is the actual law:
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May 17, 2018, 03:54 PM | #10 | |
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And this is the controlling Illinois Supreme Court opinion that a glove box opr center console counts as a "ase" under Illinois law: People v. Diggins
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May 17, 2018, 05:11 PM | #11 | |
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http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/illinois.pdf If you leave your vehicle, the gun must be unloaded and cased. Last edited by Mike38; May 17, 2018 at 05:24 PM. |
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2. The firearm must not be immediately accessible http://midwestcarryacademy.com/trans...earm-illinois/ Outdated? Maybe? Last edited by Mike38; May 17, 2018 at 05:23 PM. |
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Not all of them, not any combination of 2 of them, just one of them. That's why the word "or" appears in the law I cited. And the 3rd option is "3. The firearm must be unloaded and enclosed in a case, carrying box, shipping box or other container by a person who has a valid FOID card." And as I pointed out a different law exempts non-residents from having a FOID card, this was in response to a court ruling that it was unconstitutional to require a non-resident to have a FOID card when the ISP doesn't issue them to non-residents. |
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May 18, 2018, 06:53 AM | #14 |
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Well, no matter what, they're going to be in a Pelikan hard case in the back of my SUV and won't be loaded.
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May 18, 2018, 12:16 PM | #15 | |
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The perception of what the law in Illinois is versus what it actually is are often worlds apart. Illinois is not New Jersey, New York, or California. No need to be paranoid about travelling through Illinois with a firearm. Transportation of all firearms, btw, is also preempted by state law. No local government can have stricter transport laws than what the state has. That includes Chicago. |
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May 19, 2018, 07:57 PM | #16 |
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My understanding is that in Illinois it's fine to have your gun in the car, if you have a CC permit from another state, but you are not allowed to get out of the car with it.
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May 20, 2018, 12:36 PM | #17 |
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I wish I could say that I would not get out of my car while in Illinois. But I live here, so I am stuck. I do have my CCL, and in fairness, it allows me to carry legally almost anywhere I wish to go. Outside of Chicago the percentage of stores, restaurants, etc. that are posted "No Guns" seems quite low. I rarely have to change my plans of where I plan to shop or eat because of gun restrictions (such signs have the "force of law" in Illinois). For out of staters, IL is not ideal, but is light years better than what you face in NY, NJ, MD, MA, RI, CT and HI.
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Not much different at all. CT is not even close to being like NJ and NJ. |
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May 20, 2018, 04:34 PM | #19 |
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My apologies for including CT in this list of ... states.
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May 30, 2018, 10:55 AM | #20 |
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Trip successful, shooting done, and not in jail!
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May 31, 2018, 04:56 PM | #22 |
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Just made a post asking the same exact question. Didn't see this one before. Thanks for the info!
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