Cleaning / Shooting items for a 54 cal Lyman GPR - 1st BP Rifle - Page 2

drobs · August 28, 2017, 10:11 PM

Appreciate all the info.

Haven't placed an order yet.

What do you think about a powder drop tube?

mehavey · August 28, 2017, 10:46 PM

Get one of these:
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categ...1/POWDER-CAP-F

and then cut off a 45-70 case to the dimension that when you contact-pour powder into it, it produces the right throw weight.

and/or ... get one of these
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/83...crements-brass

Personally, I've got about a dozen different 45-70 cases in the box for various rifles, along with the adjustable one for just fooling around. The valved spout on the powder can feeds all of them.

bedbugbilly · August 29, 2017, 08:04 AM

mehavy - thanks for checking on the sight and if it will work on a left handed, built backwards, inside out rifle. :-) I bought 50 cal GPR flintlock off of a fellow that had only been fired one range session - got it at such a low price I couldn't pass it up. Mine is a right handed but when saw the OP's post and your post on the sight, it got me to wondering if it would work on a left handed rifle.

For a production rifle, I think they are well built. I'm going to "customize" mine this winter a little. I am going to finish carving the beavertail cheek piece to the correct profile that it should be, do an inlay on the cheek piece and probably add a correct style cap box on the other side. The one thing I don't care for is their lock bolt placement but it is what it is. I haven't had a lot of time of fuss with it yet to see how the lock functions but it seems to work fine. If I ever change out the lock, I'll redo the lock bolts and get them where they should be. I know L & R has a replacement lock but I still hate the lock bolt being in the center - call me a tradionlist!

I'm also pretty impressed with what I'm seeing on the Lyman "trade" rifle. I've read lots of good things about them and they seem to be a good product at a fair price. I have plenty of front stuffers that I've accumulated over the past 50 plus years but Lyman trade rifle looks like a good all around knock about rifle.

I don't hunt anymore but both the GPR and the Lyman Trade Rifle certainly provide a good affordable rifle to hunt with or just enjoy sending lead downrange.

Thanks again for the info. Will be interested to see how the OP likes his GPR - I have a feeling he'll love it!

**4V50 Gary** · August 29, 2017, 09:33 AM

Concur with bedbugbilly on those customizing touches. It does need a steel cap box and an inlay on the cheekpiece would enhance it immensely.

the possum · August 29, 2017, 11:17 AM

When I finally get a few minutes to do some shooting, I don't like to waste time measuring each powder charge on site. So I bought some cheap test tubes to contain pre-measured charges for a couple bucks. test tubes

These have plenty of room; could probably fit over 120 grains if need be. I like that they're small enough in diameter to fit down inside the bore, so ya don't spill any powder. And of course it's handy to carry a pocket full of 'em hunting for speedier reloads.

I also bought some of this style for my Dad, but they don't hold as much (up to about 75 grains): Screw cap tubes. They have a really secure screw cap with an O-Ring though, which is nice.

drobs · August 29, 2017, 10:53 PM

Looking at December Christmas Time for my next trip home.
There's a Missouri Alternative Methods Deer hunt that I could hit. Methods legal are BP rifle, Centerfire Pistol, plus some others (Atlatl, etc).

Figure I could get a week of shooting everyday before the season. Then decide - BP rifle or... 7.62x39 pistol.

Probably want to invest in a sling for the GPR.

August 28, 2017, 10:11 PM	#26
drobs Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2015 Location: South Central MO / Africa Posts: 1,111	Appreciate all the info. Haven't placed an order yet. What do you think about a powder drop tube? __________________ NRA Life Member

August 29, 2017, 08:04 AM	#28
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 3,287	mehavy - thanks for checking on the sight and if it will work on a left handed, built backwards, inside out rifle. :-) I bought 50 cal GPR flintlock off of a fellow that had only been fired one range session - got it at such a low price I couldn't pass it up. Mine is a right handed but when saw the OP's post and your post on the sight, it got me to wondering if it would work on a left handed rifle. For a production rifle, I think they are well built. I'm going to "customize" mine this winter a little. I am going to finish carving the beavertail cheek piece to the correct profile that it should be, do an inlay on the cheek piece and probably add a correct style cap box on the other side. The one thing I don't care for is their lock bolt placement but it is what it is. I haven't had a lot of time of fuss with it yet to see how the lock functions but it seems to work fine. If I ever change out the lock, I'll redo the lock bolts and get them where they should be. I know L & R has a replacement lock but I still hate the lock bolt being in the center - call me a tradionlist! I'm also pretty impressed with what I'm seeing on the Lyman "trade" rifle. I've read lots of good things about them and they seem to be a good product at a fair price. I have plenty of front stuffers that I've accumulated over the past 50 plus years but Lyman trade rifle looks like a good all around knock about rifle. I don't hunt anymore but both the GPR and the Lyman Trade Rifle certainly provide a good affordable rifle to hunt with or just enjoy sending lead downrange. Thanks again for the info. Will be interested to see how the OP likes his GPR - I have a feeling he'll love it! __________________ If a pair of '51 Navies were good enough for Billy Hickok, then a single Navy on my right hip is good enough for me . . . besides . . . I'm probably only half as good as he was anyways. Hiram's Rangers Badge #63

August 29, 2017, 09:33 AM	#29
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,838	Concur with bedbugbilly on those customizing touches. It does need a steel cap box and an inlay on the cheekpiece would enhance it immensely. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

August 29, 2017, 11:17 AM	#30
the possum Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2004 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 555	When I finally get a few minutes to do some shooting, I don't like to waste time measuring each powder charge on site. So I bought some cheap test tubes to contain pre-measured charges for a couple bucks. test tubes These have plenty of room; could probably fit over 120 grains if need be. I like that they're small enough in diameter to fit down inside the bore, so ya don't spill any powder. And of course it's handy to carry a pocket full of 'em hunting for speedier reloads. I also bought some of this style for my Dad, but they don't hold as much (up to about 75 grains): Screw cap tubes. They have a really secure screw cap with an O-Ring though, which is nice. Last edited by the possum; August 29, 2017 at 11:24 AM.

August 29, 2017, 10:53 PM	#31
drobs Senior Member Join Date: July 17, 2015 Location: South Central MO / Africa Posts: 1,111	Looking at December Christmas Time for my next trip home. There's a Missouri Alternative Methods Deer hunt that I could hit. Methods legal are BP rifle, Centerfire Pistol, plus some others (Atlatl, etc). Figure I could get a week of shooting everyday before the season. Then decide - BP rifle or... 7.62x39 pistol. Probably want to invest in a sling for the GPR. __________________ NRA Life Member

August 28, 2017, 10:46 PM	#27
mehavey Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 6,894	Get one of these: https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categ...1/POWDER-CAP-F and then cut off a 45-70 case to the dimension that when you contact-pour powder into it, it produces the right throw weight. and/or ... get one of these https://www.midwayusa.com/product/83...crements-brass Personally, I've got about a dozen different 45-70 cases in the box for various rifles, along with the adjustable one for just fooling around. The valved spout on the powder can feeds all of them.