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Old January 11, 2015, 07:36 PM   #26
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And you were able to achieve gas sealed rounds? I thought the lee set was only for coverting and making ammo from .32-20 brass.

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Old January 11, 2015, 08:08 PM   #27
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If you make the gas seal rounds you will have a short case life. Back whan I bought my Nagant the Privi ammo was not available to I ordered 500 Star cases. I tried seating the bullets flush with the case but just did not like the look so I wildat mine bu cutting the .32-20 cases just short enough to do a regular crimp and have the cartridge fit.

I sure am glad tha I did it that way as it works slick

My current load is 4 grains of Unique with a 90 grain bullet.
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Old January 12, 2015, 08:31 AM   #28
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Shooter, they can be made to work- the seater has to be modified ... and you won't get the radical crimp in front of the bullet like the factory rounds ....but you don't want that- it works the brass too much. I run them in to a .30 Carbine sizing die and finish with a 7mm Lee factory crimp die - the important thing is to ge the case mouth to .296".
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Old January 12, 2015, 12:04 PM   #29
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With the date only on the sideplate of the revolver, and having undergone refurbishment with pieces mixed and matched, are you really getting a revolver manufactured that year or just one with a sideplate made that year? I know the Mosin Nagant rifle parts were mixed and interchanged at refurbishment, maybe the revolvers weren't?
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Old January 12, 2015, 02:56 PM   #30
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I have received my revolver from AIM. Mine was made in 1919. The import mark is on the bottom of the barrel. Its bathed in Cosmoline which is fine by me. But what I didn't see was the normal Izzy or Tula Marks. I'll have to investigate further when I clean it up. I had to pick it up an haul tail to my unit for duty, so I wasn't able to spend much time with it. But from what I can see, it is in fine shape and I'm happy to have it. Yes 190 seems a lot right now but check again in 5 years.
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Old January 12, 2015, 03:00 PM   #31
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I find the .32-20 cases very easy to handload for the Nagant. They are too short for the gas seal, but I do not need the gas seal. I feel it is highly over-hyped. It also seems to me that repeated crimping of the case mouth will lead to early failure of the brass.
If you get the factory ammo and reload the brass, then yes, you'll need t crimp for the gas seal.
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Old January 12, 2015, 07:02 PM   #32
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Bigdog- if you want to shoot .32/20, with these guns going for $200+ you can pick up an old H&R or S&W revolver for about the same money and it'll have a nicer DA pull, too!
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Old January 12, 2015, 10:46 PM   #33
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jimbob You can not shoot a 32-20 in a nagant revolver. You run the 32-20 through a M1 carbine die to remove the shoulder first. We just use the 32-20 case as a place to start.
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Old January 13, 2015, 03:21 PM   #34
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Deerslayer,

Whenever you get time can you post a picture of your new revolver? I might buy one within the next day if it looks nice. Anyone have a clue as to how many revolvers AIM has left?

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Old January 13, 2015, 04:12 PM   #35
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I won't be home till Friday but I'll post some pics then.
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Old January 13, 2015, 04:16 PM   #36
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Playing with the cart, the site told me there are 44 of them left.
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Old January 13, 2015, 06:03 PM   #37
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Ok sounds good. I'm gonna order mine soon so hopefully it will be nice!
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Old January 14, 2015, 07:55 AM   #38
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There is a definite "bull market" going on in the surplus firearms world right now- I suspect, at least partially driven by what I call "Fedonomics"...

Whether these particular revolvers represent a good investment will be known a decade from now. To equate to a 10% annual return on your $$, you would need to be able to sell that $200 revolver today, for $400 in seven years.

I can't seem to get off the fence on this one. I am not in the camp that thinks they represent a good investment, but they are an interesting design and merit a place in a collection so I'll probably bite the bullet and go for it.
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Old January 14, 2015, 09:00 AM   #39
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Whether these particular revolvers represent a good investment will be known a decade from now. To equate to a 10% annual return on your $$, you would need to be able to sell that $200 revolver today, for $400 in seven years.
Fuzzy logic. Decade my butt. You will not lose money on a $200 Nagant revolver. In this case you will increase your investment by almost %50 as soon as availability dries up again. You may lose value on the electrons you have sitting in a checking/savings account.
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Old January 14, 2015, 09:01 AM   #40
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I buy mil surp simply because if I wait the prices surely go up. I don't plan to sell them.

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Old January 14, 2015, 09:06 AM   #41
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I buy mil surprised simply because if I wait the prices surely go up. I don't plan to sell them.
Same here. But things still have an intrinsic value, and things that never seem to depreciate are easier on the mind. Milsurp guns are like gold in that they always have a value and they are hard to take away from you. Milsurp guns are better than gold in that their value rarely, if even ever, depreciates. When times get rough, gold and guns go up in value. Go figure.

BTW deerslayer, there's a 1919 Nagant just like you describe yours on GB right now and is already bid up to $255. By the time all is said and done, the buyer will be paying close to $300 with shipping and possible transfer fee. How's that for the appreciation of the Nagant revolver?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=462652196
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Old January 14, 2015, 07:17 PM   #42
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I just received my revolver from AIM and it definitely is in the condition as they describe. It looks like new with a couple small nicks on the grip. The single action trigger pull requires a lot of force but the break is crisp. The double action pull feels like its dragging through wet concrete.
The revolver actually looks more odd in person than the pics suggest. It's has a N frame cylinder sandwiched between a k frame barrel and grip.
The import marks under the barrel are unnoticeable unless looking for them. My was made in 1925
I would post pics but I can't figure out how to do that on an iphone...
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Old January 14, 2015, 07:23 PM   #43
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The revolver I received looks just like that and as far as I can tell in the same shape. i will know more when I'm able to give it a bath. I want to decipher those markings above and below the date. Like I said it doesn't have the normal Tula or Izzy factory stamp. Interesting to me, I'm glad I bought it.
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Old January 14, 2015, 08:18 PM   #44
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deerslayer it would be a tula, and they didn't put the big star on the frame until 1928.

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRareNagant.htm
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Old January 14, 2015, 08:22 PM   #45
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Oh OK gotcha thanks for the info. Learning this stuff is most of the fun to me. Only if C&R guns could tell their story
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Old January 14, 2015, 10:38 PM   #46
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The 1919 arsenal marks should be written out in Cyrillic, no symbols. Holdover from the Czarist style.
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Old January 15, 2015, 03:53 PM   #47
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Well I cuoent resist the temptation. I ordered one ! There were only 21 left when I ordered one and now they are sold out. Boy am I lucky! I can't wait to get mine and shoot it. Maybe I'll do a short little review of it when I get it.

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Old January 16, 2015, 11:59 AM   #48
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jimbob86 said, "Bigdog- if you want to shoot .32/20, with these guns going for $200+ you can pick up an old H&R or S&W revolver for about the same money and it'll have a nicer DA pull, too! "

No, no point in that. I found one box of factory .32-20 early on and broke them down to convert for the Nagant. No interest in a .32-20 revolver.
I do have a crazy idea for getting an old Martini rifle action and converting to a .32-20 barrel rechambered for the Nagant loads I make. That would be pretty nifty!
Saw a pic of a Nagant carbine recently. That sent a thrill down my hindleg! Major "want factor"!

Basically I find the .32-20 conversion and handloading for the Nagant so easy, there's no reason to bother with the 'gas seal' thing. Totally unnecessary to me. Too fun to shoot this way.
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Old January 16, 2015, 12:16 PM   #49
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there's no reason to bother with the 'gas seal' thing.
The cylinder stays clean ..... the bore is the only thing that gets dirty when you shoot the thing .....
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