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Old January 19, 2010, 06:47 PM   #51
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Mosin Nagant of Lee Enfield. I have read somewhere 7.92 not as good ballistcwise (is this even a word?) than 7.62 or .303. Would definetly prefer 10 round magazine though.
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Old January 19, 2010, 07:04 PM   #52
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Honestly Id have to choose the Mle 1916 Berthier Carbine.

-Very short and light rifle.(Good in close quarters trench fighting)
-5 shot mag
-Shoots a 220gr 8mm Bullet
-Has a cover over the clip ejection port to keep out dirt and debris
-Well built and accurate
-Has big bayonet with a 15 1/2 blade
-Some rifles were also fitted with primitive night sights for low light shooting
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Old January 21, 2010, 12:08 AM   #53
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Like others have answered. The BAR (Browning Automatic Rifle). Yea, its heavy for a combat rifle, but having a 20 round mag has its advantages. During WWI, yes it was issued in small numbers and used in combat near very end of war. The WWI BAR did have selective fire, either semi auto or full automatic. Unlike the ones in WWII, which by then had been converted to only full automatic fire.

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Old January 26, 2010, 08:09 PM   #54
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Easy.

Cei-Rigotti



or

Fedorov Avtomat



or

Mondragon



or
Mauser Selbstlade-Karabiner
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Old January 26, 2010, 11:53 PM   #55
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The SMLE. I have liked the story of the Battle of Mons, where the BEF fired their SMLEs so rapidly and so accurate that the Germans thought they were facing machine guns.
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Old January 27, 2010, 12:38 AM   #56
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Despite my only Mauser (Yugo 48A) also being simple to operate, my Lee-Enfield #4 and #5s hold twice as much ammo.

And it is much easier and quicker for me to use the LE's peep sight, whether in bright sunlight or in deep shadows at 5:00 PM.
Don't get me wrong, the Mauser has just as much appeal.
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Old January 27, 2010, 02:06 AM   #57
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SMLE without a doubt.
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Old January 27, 2010, 08:37 AM   #58
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Easy.

Cei-Rigotti

or

Fedorov Avtomat

or

Mondragon

or
Mauser Selbstlade-Karabiner
Are these WWI rifles or just the most arcane battle rifles you could think of?
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Old January 27, 2010, 09:44 AM   #59
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Enfield, It was good enough for Sargent York

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Old January 27, 2010, 01:55 PM   #60
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I would choose a M1 garand BAR or thompson.














Sorry I couldn't resist
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Old January 27, 2010, 02:16 PM   #61
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Model 1917 or P14. You cannot beat the peep sights for the period. The 1917 will hold 7 rounds as well.
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Old January 28, 2010, 10:57 PM   #62
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If I were to fight World War I, I would opt for either a F-16 or if I couldn't get one of those, I would most happy with a 50cal mini gun on the Warthog. Hey, you don't think I want to get back in the dirt again. I did that in another war and I do not highly recommend it. It's not the fun that some have it cracked up to be, especially since the mud is up to and in your crack.
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Old January 29, 2010, 12:39 AM   #63
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i'd take my 1943 lee enfield no.4 mk1. but ammo is spendy......but it will split watermelons at well over 100 yds.........head shot!
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Old January 29, 2010, 05:21 PM   #64
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These topics are always fun, and I love the posts naming something that hadn't been invented yet, but in fact you would use whatever that large, nasty man with the stripes on his sleeves gave you and if you didn't like it, he would plant his boot up your rear end.

Same as now.

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Old January 29, 2010, 07:41 PM   #65
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What I was issued with- I would not want ammo supply problems at critical times or run the risk of being mistaken for the enemy in CQB in poor light.
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Old January 29, 2010, 11:26 PM   #66
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I knew a WWII vet who told me he latched onto a "Schmeisser" (MP.38 or MP.40) early on in France. The first time he used it, he caught fire from both sides. He threw it away and got an M1 rifle.

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Old January 30, 2010, 08:57 AM   #67
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03 Springfield, if I'm carrying that I know I'm on the right side.
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Old January 30, 2010, 09:13 AM   #68
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03 Springfield, and a 1911...just in case someone jumped into my foxhole who was not wearing the right uniform.
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Old January 30, 2010, 09:34 PM   #69
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Are these WWI rifles or just the most arcane battle rifles you could think of?
yup those are all WW1 rifles. The are the first generation of repeating rifles. Alot of them saw combat on zepplins, and early airplanes ( before machine guns were mounted) and the navies used them as well.

If you thought the BAR was the first "automatic rifle" then you would be sadly mistaken.
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Old January 30, 2010, 11:16 PM   #70
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The Federov was issued to only one company, for testing, just before WWI broke out. It was used in combat, but never got into even batch production until 1920, then was never mass produced because better rifles were coming along. It was chambered for the 6.5x50.5 Japanese round.

The Mauser never got into even limited production.

The Mondragon was the only rifle of the three that had any substantial issue, but it reportedly was not very reliable.

There was not a lot of use of the BAR in WWI. It was demonstrated in France in June 1918, but significant numbers were not available until September. Even then, few were issued as Pershing wanted to wait until there were enough to equip the whole American army. (Like most other commanders, he expected the war to last into 1919.)

There was some combat use starting in late September, but the armistice was on 11 November, so the BAR's role in France lasted only a month and a half and was very limited.

Needless to say, those who would have chosen an M1 rifle, an M14, or a 7.62mm Minigun would have had a long wait.

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Old January 31, 2010, 05:22 PM   #71
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43-1 - Mannlicher 1891
43-2 - Mannlicher 1893

Germania
44-1 - Mauser 1902
44-2 - Mauser 1906/08
44-3 - Mauser 1916

Danimarca
45-1 - Mauser 1896

Italia
46-1 - Cei-Rigotti 1890

Messico
47-1 - Mondragon 1908



Russia
48-1 - Roscshepej o Rostschepej o Roshchepey 1905
48-2 - Fiodorov 1907/13 (anche Fjodorow o Federov)
48-3 - Fiodorov 1916, automatico

USA
49-1 - Browning 1918

Francia
50-1 - RSC (o RSZ?) 17
50-2 - RSC 18
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Old February 1, 2010, 03:47 PM   #72
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Its amazing how many people chose rifles that were not around yet. These people went to the C&R area, responded, but apparently don't know WWI weapons at all. Of course some of these people were kidding.

I own the Enfield 1917, and I like that. The other ones I never handled or shot so I have to go with what I know. The enfield 1917 has a better sighting system than the Springfield 1903.
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