The .41 Magnum Club - Page 2

pete2 · January 28, 2021, 10:52 AM

I have no need for a .41 but if a bargain came up on a 58 I'd snap it up.

Crazy Carl · February 14, 2021, 01:02 AM

I've got a few, including a .41 Special, so yeah, I guess I'm a fan.

This 6.5" Blackhawk will be coming home from Tyler Gun Works next week.

SIGSHR · February 14, 2021, 09:02 AM

Had my 4" M-57 no dash since 1980, I was such an active reloader then, it was 10 years before I put a factory round through it. Thinking about a Henry Big Boy to complement it.

THEWELSHM · February 14, 2021, 10:33 AM

yep like mine

thewelshm

MarkCO · February 14, 2021, 11:03 AM

Always really enjoyed the .41 Magnums. I started with a Ruger, similar to yours Tex, and sold it several years ago as I never shot it. Before that, I bought the 657 in the photo, which was carried by an FBI agent on duty for decades. I also had a 1894S, but we just never got along and I also sold it. I do have a .414SuperMag barrel for my Encore and shoot .41 Mag out of that as well. The 16" Henry will soon replace the carbine once a few guns I have on consignment sell.

Easy to reload, and as you can see from the photo, I have a variety of loads, even a snake shot load that I roll myself as well.

reinert · February 14, 2021, 11:35 AM

Hey rodfac,

If you're still there/here, I've got a question; on your post #3, the middle photo shows your NMB with rosewood grips? Wondered if you made those, or if you purchased them, from where? I'd maybe like a set of those on my NMB.

Also, I've got the same M94 carbine you show there, too. Where did you get the saddle ring safety replacement? Pretty sure that's what you have there.

Thanks,
reinert

Also, I had a buddy who replaced his NMB .41 grip frame to a Bisley, and when he did that, he had a Super Blackhawk hammer on his .41 that he gifted me. Really a nice upgrade on my old Blackhawk.

rodfac · February 14, 2021, 08:29 PM

Reinert, I made the rosewood grips on my Flat Top Blackhawk from a block I've had for over 30 years. Finished in Tung Oil, they darkened to their present condition...when new they were a much lighter shade of red.

Making them up is not an especially hard project. You fit the top angle first, then then drill the hole for the locator pin, finally drill the hole for the stock escutcheon screws. I sand mine to shape on a belt sander, then finish by hand. Making them yourself, you can get any shape/fit you want. I like mine wider by about 1/8" overall, up top, behind the hammer for recoil comfort, and thinner down at the butt, for overall feel.

Here's a few more on some of my Rugers. Top to bottom: Cocobolo, black & white ebony, fiddle back maple, and the bottom is poplar fence rail. A good place to look for exotic wood without buying a hundred dollar board is Woodcrafter's turning bowl blanks 6x6x2.5". Brownells has the escutcheon screws and bolts along with an easy to use drill/countersink.

The saddle ring came from Beartooth Mercantile...delivery took less than a week...and installation was a breeze, but you do have to remove the butt stock to get at the safety installation screw fittings.

HTH's Rod

reinert · February 15, 2021, 01:16 AM

rodfac,

Beautiful work! I asked about the grips as it looked a bit as you had some extra thickness on the wood. I don't mind the original walnut grips on mine, but I've always thought at some point to get something with a little extra "beef" on the grips. I've got a great old chunk of walnut I've had for 25 years that I may try to form a set at some point down the road. And thanks for the tip on the Beartooth Mercantile saddle ring, too. I've thought of doing something like that on my carbine from time to time. Your work shines on your Rugers. Well done, indeed. Love my .41s.

azsixshooter · February 15, 2021, 07:26 PM

I traded a beat-up S&W 686 4" and $100 for a beautiful New Model Blackhawk Bisley with a 5.5" .41 Mag barrel. I really wanted a 7.5" in .44 Mag, but I had an old friend in Arizona who always swore by .41 Mag and I respect his opinion. I went ahead and got it and I like it a lot. I got my first Whitetail handgun kill with it this year, a spike buck, and I'm tooled up to start loading for it although I haven't started working up a load yet.

For a handgun hunting role the .41 Mag is great. I wish factory ammo was easier to find, but these days it doesn't seem like anything is easy to find no matter what you shoot. If I step up in power to anything now I'll skip the .44 and go right to .454 Casull. I've always wanted a Freedom Arms revolver.

I shot my spike with the Remington XTP 210 grain semi-jacketed flat points. He didn't go far but there wasn't hardly any blood. I'm going to use Hornady XTP hollow points when I work up a handload for deer hunting, should create a much better exit hole.

I picked up some 265 grain hard cast slugs from Grizzly Cartridge Company for using in the bear woods for defense if I ever have that need.

I like the .41 Mag a lot so far, I imagine I'll like it even more when I finally start loading for it.

MarkCO · February 15, 2021, 08:02 PM

Quote:

I like the .41 Mag a lot so far, I imagine I'll like it even more when I finally start loading for it.

Yes, you will.

I think I have at least a dozen boxes of factory loads that have sat on my shelf for over 15 years. Just does not match what the cartridge is capable of. Similar issues with 10mm.

gwpercle · February 17, 2021, 07:09 PM

I'm in ... a S&W model 58 .
Been casting and reloading for the 41 magnum since 1972 , would enjoy discussing loads .
Gary

MarkCO · February 18, 2021, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwpercle

I'm in ... a S&W model 58 .
Been casting and reloading for the 41 magnum since 1972 , would enjoy discussing loads .
Gary

I used AA#9 for a long time, but have been using Lil Gun recently. A little bit of Enforcer as well. Mostly shoot 210 grain slugs.

I do use 4.0 grains of Clays under 110 grains of #9 shot for my snake shot loads.

ammo.crafter · February 18, 2021, 02:19 PM

I have been hog hunting with my S&W model 57 (Armoloy finish) 6-inch bbl and a trigger that i8s smooth as butter.
Hogs have never moved after being hit with 250gr castcore 1250f/s produced by Federal Premium Hunting.
The 41 is a great calibre to reload and enjoy.

SIGSHR · February 18, 2021, 03:25 PM

My original load for my 4" M-57 was a 210 SWC over 8 grains of Unique. I saw I was getting unburied powder, cut back to 7.5 grains,,good accuracy,no unburned powder.

**Mike Irwin** · February 19, 2021, 10:30 AM

"Been casting and reloading for the 41 magnum since 1972 , would enjoy discussing loads."

There have been a LOT of threads in the Handloading forum about pet loads for .41 Mag. over the years.

Lots of good information to be found there.

As I noted, my primary load for my .41 is more of a .41 Special load using .41 Mag cases, a 215 gr. LSWC, and WW 231.

IIRC I get right around 900-1000 fps. with that load but it's been awhile since I looked at the specifics.

mikejonestkd · February 19, 2021, 10:45 AM

I have one 41 mag- a smith 57 6" from the early 80s if I recall correctly. I have been searching for a 6" 657, but they are quite rare in my area, hoping for find one like the pic in ballisticxlr's post on page 1 of this thread

Its a great cartridge- more punch than a 357, without the pain of the 44's recoil.

Like Mike Irwin, my plinking load is a 215 gr lead bullet over win 231- I'd have to check, but I think its 7.0 grains. I step up to AA7 or power pistol for more punch when I want it.

jetinteriorguy · February 20, 2021, 10:14 AM

My go to is 8-8.2 gr do Green Dot using any 210-220 gr lead, coated, or copper plated bullet. I’ve been shooting quite a few of these since the early 80’s. Tried Unique, too dirty and too snappy for my casual shooting load. I’ve even loaded GD all the way down to 4gr for bunny fart loads with no ill affects, feels about like a .38sp.

redhawk41 · February 20, 2021, 05:49 PM

Crazy Carl love the Blackhawk!

stagpanther · February 20, 2021, 08:19 PM

I guess I should join the party.

GeauxTide · February 20, 2021, 09:16 PM

Have owned 41 Mags since the 70s. Still have a 657 and a Gallagher Custom Ruger Bisley.

Gunstock48 · February 26, 2021, 05:09 PM

I have a 57 S&W 8 3/8 barrel with target trigger hammer and grips polished blue finish shot only a few times any estimate on value.

jetinteriorguy · February 27, 2021, 08:41 AM

I’d guess between $1000.00-$1500.00. Unfortunately the long barrel hurts the market value so unless it’s literally unfired in the box and some collector wants one real bad I’d say around the $1000.00 mark give or take a little.

Gunstock48 · February 27, 2021, 10:56 AM

Value of Smith mod 57 83/8 polished blue target grips trigger and hammer pined barrel 41 mag

Gunstock48 · February 27, 2021, 11:02 AM

Thanks Jetinteriorguy I bought it from a friend for 500 it is in like new condition I don't know that he shot it over ten rounds maybe.

Gunstock48 · February 27, 2021, 11:07 AM

Not looking to sell just curious Gun International had it around 1200 as far as I can tell. So thanks for the info

February 14, 2021, 11:35 AM	#31
reinert Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 646	Rosewood grips? Hey rodfac, If you're still there/here, I've got a question; on your post #3, the middle photo shows your NMB with rosewood grips? Wondered if you made those, or if you purchased them, from where? I'd maybe like a set of those on my NMB. Also, I've got the same M94 carbine you show there, too. Where did you get the saddle ring safety replacement? Pretty sure that's what you have there. Thanks, reinert Also, I had a buddy who replaced his NMB .41 grip frame to a Bisley, and when he did that, he had a Super Blackhawk hammer on his .41 that he gifted me. Really a nice upgrade on my old Blackhawk.

February 14, 2021, 08:29 PM	#32
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,623	Reinert, I made the rosewood grips on my Flat Top Blackhawk from a block I've had for over 30 years. Finished in Tung Oil, they darkened to their present condition...when new they were a much lighter shade of red. Making them up is not an especially hard project. You fit the top angle first, then then drill the hole for the locator pin, finally drill the hole for the stock escutcheon screws. I sand mine to shape on a belt sander, then finish by hand. Making them yourself, you can get any shape/fit you want. I like mine wider by about 1/8" overall, up top, behind the hammer for recoil comfort, and thinner down at the butt, for overall feel. Here's a few more on some of my Rugers. Top to bottom: Cocobolo, black & white ebony, fiddle back maple, and the bottom is poplar fence rail. A good place to look for exotic wood without buying a hundred dollar board is Woodcrafter's turning bowl blanks 6x6x2.5". Brownells has the escutcheon screws and bolts along with an easy to use drill/countersink. The saddle ring came from Beartooth Mercantile...delivery took less than a week...and installation was a breeze, but you do have to remove the butt stock to get at the safety installation screw fittings. HTH's Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.

February 15, 2021, 07:26 PM	#34
azsixshooter Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2007 Location: Pinckney, MI Posts: 657	I traded a beat-up S&W 686 4" and $100 for a beautiful New Model Blackhawk Bisley with a 5.5" .41 Mag barrel. I really wanted a 7.5" in .44 Mag, but I had an old friend in Arizona who always swore by .41 Mag and I respect his opinion. I went ahead and got it and I like it a lot. I got my first Whitetail handgun kill with it this year, a spike buck, and I'm tooled up to start loading for it although I haven't started working up a load yet. For a handgun hunting role the .41 Mag is great. I wish factory ammo was easier to find, but these days it doesn't seem like anything is easy to find no matter what you shoot. If I step up in power to anything now I'll skip the .44 and go right to .454 Casull. I've always wanted a Freedom Arms revolver. I shot my spike with the Remington XTP 210 grain semi-jacketed flat points. He didn't go far but there wasn't hardly any blood. I'm going to use Hornady XTP hollow points when I work up a handload for deer hunting, should create a much better exit hole. I picked up some 265 grain hard cast slugs from Grizzly Cartridge Company for using in the bear woods for defense if I ever have that need. I like the .41 Mag a lot so far, I imagine I'll like it even more when I finally start loading for it. __________________ "Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We're evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that." --Saul Tigh http://sargesrollcall.blogspot.com/2...s-no-more.html

February 18, 2021, 02:19 PM	#38
ammo.crafter Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2006 Location: The Keystone State Posts: 1,970	.41 mag rules I have been hog hunting with my S&W model 57 (Armoloy finish) 6-inch bbl and a trigger that i8s smooth as butter. Hogs have never moved after being hit with 250gr castcore 1250f/s produced by Federal Premium Hunting. The 41 is a great calibre to reload and enjoy. __________________ "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". --Thomas Jefferson

February 19, 2021, 10:30 AM	#40
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,389	"Been casting and reloading for the 41 magnum since 1972 , would enjoy discussing loads." There have been a LOT of threads in the Handloading forum about pet loads for .41 Mag. over the years. Lots of good information to be found there. As I noted, my primary load for my .41 is more of a .41 Special load using .41 Mag cases, a 215 gr. LSWC, and WW 231. IIRC I get right around 900-1000 fps. with that load but it's been awhile since I looked at the specifics. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

January 28, 2021, 10:52 AM	#26
pete2 Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 2,566	I have no need for a .41 but if a bargain came up on a 58 I'd snap it up.

February 14, 2021, 01:02 AM	#27
Crazy Carl Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2009 Location: Alamance Co., NC Posts: 265	I've got a few, including a .41 Special, so yeah, I guess I'm a fan. This 6.5" Blackhawk will be coming home from Tyler Gun Works next week.

February 14, 2021, 09:02 AM	#28
SIGSHR Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2005 Posts: 4,700	Had my 4" M-57 no dash since 1980, I was such an active reloader then, it was 10 years before I put a factory round through it. Thinking about a Henry Big Boy to complement it.

February 14, 2021, 10:33 AM	#29
THEWELSHM Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 2015 Location: Brandon Fl Posts: 236	yep like mine thewelshm

February 15, 2021, 01:16 AM	#33
reinert Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 646	rodfac, Beautiful work! I asked about the grips as it looked a bit as you had some extra thickness on the wood. I don't mind the original walnut grips on mine, but I've always thought at some point to get something with a little extra "beef" on the grips. I've got a great old chunk of walnut I've had for 25 years that I may try to form a set at some point down the road. And thanks for the tip on the Beartooth Mercantile saddle ring, too. I've thought of doing something like that on my carbine from time to time. Your work shines on your Rugers. Well done, indeed. Love my .41s.

February 17, 2021, 07:09 PM	#36
gwpercle Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2012 Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana Posts: 1,752	I'm in ... a S&W model 58 . Been casting and reloading for the 41 magnum since 1972 , would enjoy discussing loads . Gary

February 18, 2021, 03:25 PM	#39
SIGSHR Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2005 Posts: 4,700	My original load for my 4" M-57 was a 210 SWC over 8 grains of Unique. I saw I was getting unburied powder, cut back to 7.5 grains,,good accuracy,no unburned powder.

February 19, 2021, 10:45 AM	#41
mikejonestkd Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2006 Location: Brockport, NY Posts: 3,716	I have one 41 mag- a smith 57 6" from the early 80s if I recall correctly. I have been searching for a 6" 657, but they are quite rare in my area, hoping for find one like the pic in ballisticxlr's post on page 1 of this thread Its a great cartridge- more punch than a 357, without the pain of the 44's recoil. Like Mike Irwin, my plinking load is a 215 gr lead bullet over win 231- I'd have to check, but I think its 7.0 grains. I step up to AA7 or power pistol for more punch when I want it. __________________ You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.

February 20, 2021, 10:14 AM	#42
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,175	My go to is 8-8.2 gr do Green Dot using any 210-220 gr lead, coated, or copper plated bullet. I’ve been shooting quite a few of these since the early 80’s. Tried Unique, too dirty and too snappy for my casual shooting load. I’ve even loaded GD all the way down to 4gr for bunny fart loads with no ill affects, feels about like a .38sp.

February 20, 2021, 05:49 PM	#43
redhawk41 Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2005 Location: Red Desert Posts: 819	Crazy Carl love the Blackhawk! __________________ {empty thought cloud}

February 20, 2021, 09:16 PM	#45
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,424	Love the 41 Have owned 41 Mags since the 70s. Still have a 657 and a Gallagher Custom Ruger Bisley. __________________ Reloading For: 223R, 243W, 6.5 GR, 6.5 CM, 260R, 6.5-06, 280R, 7mmRM, 300HAM'R, 308W, 30-06, 338-06, 9mm, 357M, 41M, 44SPL, 44M, 45 ACP, 45 Colt, 450BM.

February 26, 2021, 05:09 PM	#46
Gunstock48 Junior Member Join Date: February 26, 2021 Posts: 4	Value I have a 57 S&W 8 3/8 barrel with target trigger hammer and grips polished blue finish shot only a few times any estimate on value.

February 27, 2021, 08:41 AM	#47
jetinteriorguy Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2013 Posts: 3,175	I’d guess between $1000.00-$1500.00. Unfortunately the long barrel hurts the market value so unless it’s literally unfired in the box and some collector wants one real bad I’d say around the $1000.00 mark give or take a little.

February 27, 2021, 10:56 AM	#48
Gunstock48 Junior Member Join Date: February 26, 2021 Posts: 4	Smith 41mag mod 57 Value of Smith mod 57 83/8 polished blue target grips trigger and hammer pined barrel 41 mag

February 27, 2021, 11:02 AM	#49
Gunstock48 Junior Member Join Date: February 26, 2021 Posts: 4	Thanks Jetinteriorguy I bought it from a friend for 500 it is in like new condition I don't know that he shot it over ten rounds maybe.

February 27, 2021, 11:07 AM	#50
Gunstock48 Junior Member Join Date: February 26, 2021 Posts: 4	Not looking to sell just curious Gun International had it around 1200 as far as I can tell. So thanks for the info