non-9mm military duty pistols

simonrichter · June 14, 2020, 10:39 AM

apart from the Chinese, are there any other armed forces which use another caliber than 9mm in their standard duty sidearm? (I'm not talking about SF who can - at least in many cases - anyway pick any gun of their choice... Regular army / air force / navy units that employ non-9mm sidearms...

Webleymkv · June 14, 2020, 11:53 AM

North Korea still uses 7.62x25 in a copy of the Tokarev IIRC. Russia and several other former Warsaw Pact countries still use 9x18 Makarov.

simonrichter · June 14, 2020, 12:11 PM

I see, but actually all Western militaries have adopted the 9mm, it seems...

mr bolo · June 15, 2020, 03:58 PM

the Philippines army still use USA and RIA mfg M1911A1 / Glock 21 in 45 acp

gbclarkson · June 15, 2020, 06:24 PM

I thought that some South American militaries and police agencies may still use Bersa Thunders as their primary sidearm, so I wikipediad it:

"A number of military and law enforcement forces have included Bersa 380s in their inventory, including the Ecuadorian Air Force."

Forte S+W · June 15, 2020, 06:46 PM

The United States Coast Guard carries the SIG P229R chambered in .40 S&W.

jmr40 · June 15, 2020, 09:26 PM

Probably some 38 revolvers out there somewhere. But I don't know of any specific examples.

simonrichter · June 16, 2020, 03:18 AM

interesting, thanks!

rock185 · June 16, 2020, 04:16 AM

I was in a in a SIG class with a Coast Guard armorer several years ago, and was surprised to learn the CG was issuing SIGs in .40 S&W. I don't know if that is still the case.

Fishbed77 · June 18, 2020, 08:29 AM

Supposedly, the Coast Guard will be adopting the SIG Sauer M18 in 9x19mm:

https://sofrep.com/gear/us-coast-gua...un-wins-again/

Forte S+W · June 19, 2020, 10:20 AM

That's a pity. Please tell me that they'll at least be sold on the used market and won't be destroyed.

Austin HiPowers · June 28, 2020, 08:40 AM

In Belgium the military is issued the FN 5.7 as a handgun.

peacefulgary · June 28, 2020, 11:35 AM

I don't know if it's still done, but back in Desert Storm our dust-off pilots (medivac crew) carried issued .38 revolvers.

scoobysnacker · July 3, 2020, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webleymkv

North Korea still uses 7.62x25 in a copy of the Tokarev IIRC. Russia and several other former Warsaw Pact countries still use 9x18 Makarov.

I understand North Korea is still sticking with the Tok, but regarding Russia etc-

I thought they transistioned over to the Grach, in 9x19 (with a different load than Western 9mm). The Makarovs are getting phased out, same with the former Warsaw Pact countries, everyone is MOVING to 9mm.

COSteve · July 4, 2020, 12:16 PM

Some of our special operations forces use .45acp.

agtman · July 8, 2020, 01:46 PM

10mm Gen4 Glock 20.

Issued duty sidearm of Demark's Sledge Patrol Sirius units who patrol the arctic regions of Greenland.

It's carried in case of a surprise Polar bear attack when their issued rifle, the .30-06 1917, isn't within reach.

June 14, 2020, 10:39 AM	#1
simonrichter Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 758	non-9mm military duty pistols apart from the Chinese, are there any other armed forces which use another caliber than 9mm in their standard duty sidearm? (I'm not talking about SF who can - at least in many cases - anyway pick any gun of their choice... Regular army / air force / navy units that employ non-9mm sidearms... __________________ "Get off of my lawn!" Walt Kowalski . ISSC PAR .223

June 14, 2020, 12:11 PM	#3
simonrichter Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 758	I see, but actually all Western militaries have adopted the 9mm, it seems... __________________ "Get off of my lawn!" Walt Kowalski . ISSC PAR .223

June 15, 2020, 06:46 PM	#6
Forte S+W Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2019 Posts: 819	The United States Coast Guard carries the SIG P229R chambered in .40 S&W. __________________ Conspiracy theorists are the greatest political spin-doctors of all time. Only they can make the absolute worst political blunders sound like spectacular feats of ingenuity.

June 15, 2020, 09:26 PM	#7
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,809	Probably some 38 revolvers out there somewhere. But I don't know of any specific examples. __________________ "If you're still doing things the same way you were doing them 10 years ago, you're doing it wrong" Winston Churchill

June 16, 2020, 03:18 AM	#8
simonrichter Senior Member Join Date: December 3, 2011 Location: Austria Posts: 758	interesting, thanks! __________________ "Get off of my lawn!" Walt Kowalski . ISSC PAR .223

June 14, 2020, 11:53 AM	#2
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,446	North Korea still uses 7.62x25 in a copy of the Tokarev IIRC. Russia and several other former Warsaw Pact countries still use 9x18 Makarov.

June 15, 2020, 03:58 PM	#4
mr bolo Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2012 Posts: 432	the Philippines army still use USA and RIA mfg M1911A1 / Glock 21 in 45 acp

June 15, 2020, 06:24 PM	#5
gbclarkson Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2014 Location: None of yer business, sonny Posts: 440	I thought that some South American militaries and police agencies may still use Bersa Thunders as their primary sidearm, so I wikipediad it: "A number of military and law enforcement forces have included Bersa 380s in their inventory, including the Ecuadorian Air Force."

June 16, 2020, 04:16 AM	#9
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,093	I was in a in a SIG class with a Coast Guard armorer several years ago, and was surprised to learn the CG was issuing SIGs in .40 S&W. I don't know if that is still the case. __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life

June 18, 2020, 08:29 AM	#10
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Supposedly, the Coast Guard will be adopting the SIG Sauer M18 in 9x19mm: https://sofrep.com/gear/us-coast-gua...un-wins-again/

June 19, 2020, 10:20 AM	#11
Forte S+W Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2019 Posts: 819	That's a pity. Please tell me that they'll at least be sold on the used market and won't be destroyed. __________________ Conspiracy theorists are the greatest political spin-doctors of all time. Only they can make the absolute worst political blunders sound like spectacular feats of ingenuity.

June 28, 2020, 08:40 AM	#12
Austin HiPowers Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2006 Location: Little South of Miami Posts: 147	In Belgium the military is issued the FN 5.7 as a handgun.

June 28, 2020, 11:35 AM	#13
peacefulgary Senior Member Join Date: January 26, 2011 Location: USA Posts: 714	I don't know if it's still done, but back in Desert Storm our dust-off pilots (medivac crew) carried issued .38 revolvers.

July 4, 2020, 12:16 PM	#15
COSteve Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2009 Posts: 1,344	Some of our special operations forces use .45acp.

July 8, 2020, 01:46 PM	#16
agtman Junior member Join Date: July 26, 2001 Location: midwest Posts: 2,374	10mm Gen4 Glock 20. Issued duty sidearm of Demark's Sledge Patrol Sirius units who patrol the arctic regions of Greenland. It's carried in case of a surprise Polar bear attack when their issued rifle, the .30-06 1917, isn't within reach.