F.A.R.T. Seals needed

Marco Califo · January 30, 2020, 05:11 PM

I cannot find Rubber Seals as a replacement part on BTI.com nor Frankford's sites.
I know they cannot be unique, and should be available through the McMasters catalog, and probably others.
Anyone know how to get them or a generic seal ring part # that will work?

oley55 · January 30, 2020, 05:34 PM

I did a google search for flat/square ring gaskets and found this on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/O-Rings-Squar...n%3A3549491011

Measure what you have and then select the dimensions you need.

or

https://www.amazon.com/240-Buna-N-Ri...al&sr=1-5&th=1

Hope this helps.

BumbleBug · January 30, 2020, 06:28 PM

If worst comes to worst & you can't find one, buy a drain cover or jar opener rubber pad & using a compass & razor knife, cut your own.

Edit: Commercial images are copyrighted and cannot be posted without permission from the owners. See board policy on posting copyrighted materials. You can link to them at the store's site, though.

BBarn · January 30, 2020, 07:40 PM

If you give them a call, I suspect FA/BTI can help you. Or use the contact page on their website.

**44 AMP** · January 30, 2020, 07:53 PM

Do you get a kickback from Prime? Cause that rubber bathtub/sink stopper I can get at Walmart for about $1 ...

Mule · January 30, 2020, 09:22 PM

I got sick and was out of the reloading game for about four years. In the interim lost one of the seals to my FART. Found a big O ring at Tractor Supply that works perfectly.

**Unclenick** · January 30, 2020, 10:21 PM

The Prime images violated board posting policy for copyrighted materials anyway, so I removed them.

Rubber supply places keep lots of o-ring sizes and o-ring stock on spools that you can glue to make any size you please. You can also buy sheet Neoprene from them in the hardness of your choice to cut out to make flat seals.

Marco Califo · January 31, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Mule: Found a big O ring at Tractor Supply that works perfectly.

That is fantastic method. I can take the clear cap and the screw ring into my local TSC, and find the right one!
Thank you!

IMtheNRA · January 31, 2020, 02:30 PM

Have you called FA?

Marco Califo · January 31, 2020, 04:08 PM

First off, you do not call FA. Frankford is a "brand" owned by BTI. Yes, searched, and visited their website. Replacement parts are not website searchable. They sell whole units. Yes I called their phone phone number. Their hold music is from a different century, and I gave up after a few minutes at WORK.
I also used the contact form and have not gotten a response yet.
Now do you have any helpful ideas before I stop at TSC on my way home?

Scorch · January 31, 2020, 04:13 PM

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Now do you have any helpful ideas before I stop at TSC on my way home?

My tractor supply store has a plate of cookies by the coffee pot. I suggest you grab a couple if yours has the same setup.

Marco Califo · January 31, 2020, 04:22 PM

fsreloading.com
This place sells them, and all other loose FART parts. They are a Lee Master distributor in Utah. Four seals with 1st class mail cost me $12.

**Unclenick** · January 31, 2020, 05:07 PM

I've done business with them before. It just didn't occur to me to look for the parts there. Glad you found them.

Wendyj · January 31, 2020, 05:40 PM

I learned hard way. They did replace mine 2 years ago. Put Vaseline on seals when not in use. Keeps them from cracking and leaking.

Marco Califo · January 31, 2020, 08:10 PM

Wendy, Vaseline is petroleum based. I use silicon lubricants on pool stuff. I fear the petrol will attack rubbers and/or plastics.
The seals were $2.19 each. I tend to loose them somewhere between my Labrador retriever and occasional day laborer. Yard looks better but need a new skimmer basket now. Woof!

Wendyj · January 31, 2020, 09:08 PM

Marco. Only reason I use Vaseline is Franklin suggested it. It’s worked so far but I can see silicon based being better. I use the heck out of mine in warm months and go back to vibratory in the winter. So it does sit for 4 months or so unused.

Marco Califo · January 31, 2020, 09:35 PM

UncleNick, I found them through a Google search for FART Seals, but all spelled out. If you do not spell it out I found some whoopie cushions.

**Unclenick** · February 3, 2020, 11:46 AM

Ah, bless search engine literalism.

Marco Califo · February 3, 2020, 01:42 PM

My seals are out for delivery today by USPS.
I must say, I am not at all impressed with BTI customer service. I have not received any response from them yet.
Thank Dog (atheist dog lover) for FSReloading. They sell all "after original purchase" parts. BTI should link to them.

hounddawg · February 3, 2020, 02:19 PM

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I use silicon lubricants on pool stuff. I fear the petrol will attack rubbers and/or plastics.

depends on the type of rubber. Years ago I was tasked to find out why so many Orings were failing on a certain model air compressor's 4th stage discharge pipe. People were reporting a four hour run life on a oring that should have lasted many thousand hours. Turns out the mechanics were using silicone lube to hold the viton oring in place while the pipe was being connected. The silicon lube combined with high heat and pressure was crystalizing the viton. A tech bulletin recommending GP grease instead of silicon solved the issue. With buna or butyl rubber and normal temps you should be fine with either petroleum or silicon

Marco Califo · February 3, 2020, 03:46 PM

To tell the truth, I just clean the surfaces a little, like splash of water. Put it together, and, if it leaks a little, tighten it.
I do not wear out the seals. The issue is all small parts can fascinate my dog. They end up missing or in the backyard.
I have been running batches of range 40, 45, 308, 223. Clean, Deprime, tumble with pins, rinse, Polish in corn cob with Nufinish, and filling gallon plastic jars with like, shiny brass. Taking the ends off, and dumping, rinsing, sifting, . . I do not always store properly. The new seals
Will be stored safely.

ThomasT · February 3, 2020, 04:58 PM

OK I did the Google Search suggested by Marco and it defaulted to Seal Farts. They have the nastiest farts of all the animals. You can buy books discussing different animal farts. I never knew there was so much interest in animal farts. But I think you can get a PHD in animal farts and no one will check your work.

So what is a F.A.R.T seal? My wife thinks I need one.

**Unclenick** · February 3, 2020, 05:21 PM

Frankford Arsenal Rotary Tumbler (F.A.R.T.) seal.

I think the Ph.D. faculty would check your references. They just wouldn't try to replicate your data gathering.

Marco Califo · February 3, 2020, 06:12 PM

You have to swim very fast with test tubes upside down to capture the evidence.
Then you need to sniff it?!?
That must be in grad school.
PhD stands for piled high, and deep
Them PhDs are real fart-smellers

FrankenMauser · February 4, 2020, 01:37 AM

Quote:

fsreloading.com
This place sells them, and all other loose FART parts. They are a Lee Master distributor in Utah. Four seals with 1st class mail cost me $12.

When did FS move to Cedar City?
They used to be a block away from Lee's production facility.
I wonder if the stink of 'crappy' QC pushed them out...

January 30, 2020, 05:11 PM	#1
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	F.A.R.T. Seals needed I cannot find Rubber Seals as a replacement part on BTI.com nor Frankford's sites. I know they cannot be unique, and should be available through the McMasters catalog, and probably others. Anyone know how to get them or a generic seal ring part # that will work? __________________ ............

January 30, 2020, 05:34 PM	#2
oley55 Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2013 Location: JAX, FL Posts: 377	I did a google search for flat/square ring gaskets and found this on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/O-Rings-Squar...n%3A3549491011 Measure what you have and then select the dimensions you need. or https://www.amazon.com/240-Buna-N-Ri...al&sr=1-5&th=1 Hope this helps. __________________ “Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem.” ― Ronald Reagan Last edited by oley55; January 30, 2020 at 05:56 PM.

January 30, 2020, 06:28 PM	#3
BumbleBug Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2013 Location: Near Heart of Texas Posts: 870	If worst comes to worst & you can't find one, buy a drain cover or jar opener rubber pad & using a compass & razor knife, cut your own. Edit: Commercial images are copyrighted and cannot be posted without permission from the owners. See board policy on posting copyrighted materials. You can link to them at the store's site, though. __________________ Visit my fictional blog "The dr Chronicles" about a laid-back Texan named dr - Enjoy!

January 30, 2020, 07:53 PM	#5
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,843	Do you get a kickback from Prime? Cause that rubber bathtub/sink stopper I can get at Walmart for about $1 ... __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

January 30, 2020, 09:22 PM	#6
Mule Member Join Date: October 16, 2002 Location: Franklin County Missouri Posts: 84	I got sick and was out of the reloading game for about four years. In the interim lost one of the seals to my FART. Found a big O ring at Tractor Supply that works perfectly. __________________ Shoot Safe! Shoot Often!

January 30, 2020, 07:40 PM	#4
BBarn Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2015 Posts: 887	If you give them a call, I suspect FA/BTI can help you. Or use the contact page on their website.

January 30, 2020, 10:21 PM	#7
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	The Prime images violated board posting policy for copyrighted materials anyway, so I removed them. Rubber supply places keep lots of o-ring sizes and o-ring stock on spools that you can glue to make any size you please. You can also buy sheet Neoprene from them in the hardness of your choice to cut out to make flat seals. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

January 31, 2020, 02:30 PM	#9
IMtheNRA Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2001 Posts: 298	Have you called FA?

January 31, 2020, 04:08 PM	#10
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	First off, you do not call FA. Frankford is a "brand" owned by BTI. Yes, searched, and visited their website. Replacement parts are not website searchable. They sell whole units. Yes I called their phone phone number. Their hold music is from a different century, and I gave up after a few minutes at WORK. I also used the contact form and have not gotten a response yet. Now do you have any helpful ideas before I stop at TSC on my way home? __________________ ............

January 31, 2020, 04:22 PM	#12
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	fsreloading.com This place sells them, and all other loose FART parts. They are a Lee Master distributor in Utah. Four seals with 1st class mail cost me $12. __________________ ............ Last edited by Marco Califo; February 3, 2020 at 11:54 PM. Reason: To two too many typos

January 31, 2020, 05:07 PM	#13
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	I've done business with them before. It just didn't occur to me to look for the parts there. Glad you found them. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

January 31, 2020, 05:40 PM	#14
Wendyj Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2015 Location: North Georgia Posts: 1,372	I learned hard way. They did replace mine 2 years ago. Put Vaseline on seals when not in use. Keeps them from cracking and leaking. __________________ God is NOT dead!!!!

January 31, 2020, 08:10 PM	#15
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	Wendy, Vaseline is petroleum based. I use silicon lubricants on pool stuff. I fear the petrol will attack rubbers and/or plastics. The seals were $2.19 each. I tend to loose them somewhere between my Labrador retriever and occasional day laborer. Yard looks better but need a new skimmer basket now. Woof! __________________ ............

January 31, 2020, 09:08 PM	#16
Wendyj Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2015 Location: North Georgia Posts: 1,372	Marco. Only reason I use Vaseline is Franklin suggested it. It’s worked so far but I can see silicon based being better. I use the heck out of mine in warm months and go back to vibratory in the winter. So it does sit for 4 months or so unused. __________________ God is NOT dead!!!!

January 31, 2020, 09:35 PM	#17
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	UncleNick, I found them through a Google search for FART Seals, but all spelled out. If you do not spell it out I found some whoopie cushions. __________________ ............

February 3, 2020, 11:46 AM	#18
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	Ah, bless search engine literalism. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

February 3, 2020, 01:42 PM	#19
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	My seals are out for delivery today by USPS. I must say, I am not at all impressed with BTI customer service. I have not received any response from them yet. Thank Dog (atheist dog lover) for FSReloading. They sell all "after original purchase" parts. BTI should link to them. __________________ ............ Last edited by Marco Califo; February 3, 2020 at 01:43 PM. Reason: No response from BTI

February 3, 2020, 03:46 PM	#21
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	To tell the truth, I just clean the surfaces a little, like splash of water. Put it together, and, if it leaks a little, tighten it. I do not wear out the seals. The issue is all small parts can fascinate my dog. They end up missing or in the backyard. I have been running batches of range 40, 45, 308, 223. Clean, Deprime, tumble with pins, rinse, Polish in corn cob with Nufinish, and filling gallon plastic jars with like, shiny brass. Taking the ends off, and dumping, rinsing, sifting, . . I do not always store properly. The new seals Will be stored safely. __________________ ............

February 3, 2020, 04:58 PM	#22
ThomasT Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,753	OK I did the Google Search suggested by Marco and it defaulted to Seal Farts. They have the nastiest farts of all the animals. You can buy books discussing different animal farts. I never knew there was so much interest in animal farts. But I think you can get a PHD in animal farts and no one will check your work. So what is a F.A.R.T seal? My wife thinks I need one.

February 3, 2020, 05:21 PM	#23
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	Frankford Arsenal Rotary Tumbler (F.A.R.T.) seal. I think the Ph.D. faculty would check your references. They just wouldn't try to replicate your data gathering. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

February 3, 2020, 06:12 PM	#24
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	SEAL FARTS You have to swim very fast with test tubes upside down to capture the evidence. Then you need to sniff it?!? That must be in grad school. PhD stands for piled high, and deep Them PhDs are real fart-smellers __________________ ............ Last edited by Marco Califo; February 3, 2020 at 06:37 PM.