Frustrated Sheriff Tells Citizens to Get Conealed Weapons

JustThisGuy · October 31, 2011, 01:29 PM

Well, this is an interesting change...

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"Sheriff Chuck Wright opened his news conference by saying, "Our form of justice is not making it," and he said, "I'm really aggravated."

He said, "Carry a concealed weapon. That'll fix it."

http://www.wyff4.com/r/29638219/detail.html

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"Wright said, "It's too bad someone with a concealed weapons permit didn't walk by. That would fix it." He said people are tired of doing the right thing and criminals getting away with their actions." ...

"Wright said in his view gun control is, "How fast can you can get the barrel of your gun back on the target?" ...

"He encouraged women to walk in groups, and he ended by saying again, "I want you to get a concealed weapons permit. Don't get Mace. Get a firearm."

I'll bet he gets eviscerated for this by the mainstream press.

armoredman · October 31, 2011, 01:40 PM

Hell yes! My kind of sheriff!

Stressfire · October 31, 2011, 01:40 PM

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I'll bet he gets eviscerated for this by the mainstream press

Likely, but I'll also bet he gets reelected. I'd vote for him

gnarSKYLER · October 31, 2011, 01:44 PM

Best. Sheriff. Ever.

Chaz88 · October 31, 2011, 01:54 PM

Bad part is if someone rightfully defends themselves he will probably be tried for inciting violence or an accessory or something.

oneounceload · October 31, 2011, 02:22 PM

Unfortunately, he will get crucified in the press

but he IS correct - this system stopped working when we started calling them "Correctional Institutions" instead of prison (Go relisten to George Carlin about words)

Seventhsword · October 31, 2011, 02:24 PM

Nice!!

Old Grump · October 31, 2011, 02:34 PM

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Unfortunately, he will get crucified in the press

Then again I bet he has more credibility with the majority of voters than the average journalist who can barely tell the difference between a handgun, (pistol or cowboy gun), Assault rifle, (any rifle that can fire more than one round without having to reload), or a shogun, (any gun with a very large hole in the end of that long tube thing). I bet the letters to the editor are very entertaining if they print a representative sampling. Very strong pro sheriff and the let us crucify him, hang him and drag him behind a car for a few hundred miles before we vote him out of office crowd.

C0untZer0 · October 31, 2011, 04:17 PM

He is a sheriff - he should just arrest the bad guys and not pontificate about society and the justice system.

He may have screwed this case beyond rescue with his comments.

One of the things that I noticed is that previously, Walter Lance was convicted of possession of a firearm by a felon.

I've said time and time again that the punishment for that crime is too lenient. I think the NRA should get behind laws that put convicted felons away for 10 years if they are in possesion of a friearm - no plea bargaining, no early release - a straight 10 years, period.

And I think like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, the NRA should have people in court watching when judges are lenient on criminals who use firearms to commit crimes.

BGutzman · October 31, 2011, 04:21 PM

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He is a sheriff - he should just arrest the bad guys and not pontificate about society and the justice system.

It seems to me that the Sheriff is doing exactly what he gets paid to do. He is looking to the best interest of his citizens if not the best interest of lawyers who in many cases seem to think court is the only place one can mount a defense.

Hard to mount a defense in court if your dead by a criminals hand.....

KyJim · October 31, 2011, 04:34 PM

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He is a sheriff - he should just arrest the bad guys and not pontificate about society and the justice system.

He may have screwed this case beyond rescue with his comments.

It is a function of his office to warn citizens of potential danger and to advocate practices and/or laws to help keep the streets and parks safe. This is not a patrol officer spouting off, it's an elected official.

His comments did not screw up the case. A judge might impose a gag order but the worst that will happen at the end of the day is the trial might have to be moved to another county. The guy could plead guilty or, by the time of trial, the judge could find enough jurors who haven't heard the comments or don't remember them.

Patriot86 · October 31, 2011, 05:19 PM

WHY isint this guy running for president? He would have my vote....

We need more no BS people like this in our society, everyone one is so afraid of offending groups of people because they believe in X, are Y race or Z sexual orientation. We have lost our non nonsense get it done American attitude, we have lost our ability as a society to say what is true about the world and address situations as such.

He is 100% right though, no amount of cops is going to stop something like this 99% of the time unless you get lucky and the cop is right there. Even that is not enough, I am reminded of the story of a woman who was raped while on 911. It took 4+ officers to PULL the guy off of her as the perp wouldn't stop at the first sight of the cops. More CC holders and gun owners in general WILL stop this, it discourages the criminals and "punishes" them for victimize law abiding citizens, often permanently something most states now refuse to do even for capital crimes.

CWKahrFan · October 31, 2011, 06:23 PM

Like many posters on this forum, that Sherrif is just a little ahead of the curve... This is the way things are going... He's just being realistic. We get it. We got it. It's 2011. This is the world we live in now.

“Improvise. Adapt. Overcome."

- (Clint Eastwood as) Gunnery Sgt. Highway in HEARTBREAK RIDGE.

MLeake · October 31, 2011, 06:54 PM

I thought it was "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome."

I agree that the sheriff, as an elected official, has a lot more latitude in what he can say than would a political appointee. I suspect his electorate probably have no problem with his outspokenness.

CWKahrFan · October 31, 2011, 07:14 PM

You're right MLeake... I changed it... Didn't seem quite right when I found it in another (faulty) source.

Thanks... Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCYv40Ur1g

secret_agent_man · October 31, 2011, 07:26 PM

I hope he ran that by the local DA first. Otherwise, great idea.

Al Norris · October 31, 2011, 07:47 PM

This is a first for me. I have never heard any top LE, in a news conference, advocate getting a CWP, because the system is broke and they (LE) simply can't be everywhere.

Romeo 33 Delta · October 31, 2011, 08:03 PM

Well, Al ... the pigs are flying, the fat lady sang, and the Devil's bitchin' about the ice forming around his ankles. May we live in interesting times

Chaz88 · October 31, 2011, 08:08 PM

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May we live in interesting times

I did not think cursing was allowed on TFL.

Al Norris · October 31, 2011, 08:15 PM

Like most things in America today ... Only if it's Chinese!

kilimanjaro · October 31, 2011, 11:31 PM

The mainstream press won't cover it, unless they can work it against him.

Old Grump · November 1, 2011, 01:21 AM

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He is a sheriff - he should just arrest the bad guys and not pontificate about society and the justice system.

He may have screwed this case beyond rescue with his comments.

Are you serious? He isn't advocating illegal actions, he isn't advocating vigilante justice, he is advising people how to defend themselves because as the Sheriff he has an obligation to advise people on the best way to protect themselves. As Sheriff he knows about his limited budget, he knows about his limited manpower and he knows how much territory he has to cover. He did exactly what he should do and more law enforcement supervisors should be doing the same thing instead of playing politics and mouthing platitudes that their liberal political bosses like to hear.

PPKman · November 1, 2011, 01:43 AM

Truth tellers in public service catch hell but get respect. This man deserves a lot.

youngunz4life · November 1, 2011, 01:54 AM

"Give that man a cigar!"

JustThisGuy · November 1, 2011, 03:26 AM

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"He is a sheriff - he should just arrest the bad guys and not pontificate about society and the justice system.

He may have screwed this case beyond rescue with his comments."

Couldn't agree less.

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"I've said time and time again that the punishment for that crime is too lenient. I think the NRA should get behind laws that put convicted felons away for 10 years if they are in possesion of a friearm - no plea bargaining, no early release - a straight 10 years, period.

And I think like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, the NRA should have people in court watching when judges are lenient on criminals who use firearms to commit crimes."

Couldn't agree more.

I've always wondered why the NRA somehow seems to perfect the art of getting on the wrong side of issues related to the use of guns in crimes. If the NRA was totally pro-active against the criminal use of firearms using tactics such as is suggested above, lawful gun owners would get a LOT less flack from the gun-control crowd. Heck, they might even go away (OK sorry wrong universe).

October 31, 2011, 01:54 PM	#5
Chaz88 Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2010 Posts: 1,243	Bad part is if someone rightfully defends themselves he will probably be tried for inciting violence or an accessory or something. __________________ Seams like once we the people give what, at the time, seams like a reasonable inch and "they" take the unreasonable mile we can only get that mile back one inch at a time. No spelun and grammar is not my specialty. So please don't hurt my sensitive little feelings by teasing me about it.

October 31, 2011, 02:24 PM	#7
Seventhsword Member Join Date: May 11, 2005 Posts: 49	Nice!! __________________ Seventhsword NRA Life Member, CHL

October 31, 2011, 06:23 PM	#13
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 2,016	Like many posters on this forum, that Sherrif is just a little ahead of the curve... This is the way things are going... He's just being realistic. We get it. We got it. It's 2011. This is the world we live in now. “Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." - (Clint Eastwood as) Gunnery Sgt. Highway in HEARTBREAK RIDGE. __________________ What did Mrs. Bullet say to Mr. Bullet? ... "We're having a BeeBee!"... IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT! "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it." Last edited by CWKahrFan; October 31, 2011 at 07:12 PM.

October 31, 2011, 07:14 PM	#15
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 2,016	You're right MLeake... I changed it... Didn't seem quite right when I found it in another (faulty) source. Thanks... Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCYv40Ur1g __________________ What did Mrs. Bullet say to Mr. Bullet? ... "We're having a BeeBee!"... IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT! "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

November 1, 2011, 01:43 AM	#23
PPKman Member Join Date: May 2, 2011 Location: Philadelphia western suburbs Posts: 22	Re-elect that honest man Truth tellers in public service catch hell but get respect. This man deserves a lot. __________________ In principle, principle and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not

October 31, 2011, 01:40 PM	#2
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	Hell yes! My kind of sheriff!

October 31, 2011, 01:44 PM	#4
gnarSKYLER Member Join Date: October 30, 2011 Posts: 32	Best. Sheriff. Ever.

October 31, 2011, 02:22 PM	#6
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Unfortunately, he will get crucified in the press but he IS correct - this system stopped working when we started calling them "Correctional Institutions" instead of prison (Go relisten to George Carlin about words)

October 31, 2011, 04:17 PM	#9
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	He is a sheriff - he should just arrest the bad guys and not pontificate about society and the justice system. He may have screwed this case beyond rescue with his comments. One of the things that I noticed is that previously, Walter Lance was convicted of possession of a firearm by a felon. I've said time and time again that the punishment for that crime is too lenient. I think the NRA should get behind laws that put convicted felons away for 10 years if they are in possesion of a friearm - no plea bargaining, no early release - a straight 10 years, period. And I think like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, the NRA should have people in court watching when judges are lenient on criminals who use firearms to commit crimes.

October 31, 2011, 05:19 PM	#12
Patriot86 Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2010 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 1,293	WHY isint this guy running for president? He would have my vote.... We need more no BS people like this in our society, everyone one is so afraid of offending groups of people because they believe in X, are Y race or Z sexual orientation. We have lost our non nonsense get it done American attitude, we have lost our ability as a society to say what is true about the world and address situations as such. He is 100% right though, no amount of cops is going to stop something like this 99% of the time unless you get lucky and the cop is right there. Even that is not enough, I am reminded of the story of a woman who was raped while on 911. It took 4+ officers to PULL the guy off of her as the perp wouldn't stop at the first sight of the cops. More CC holders and gun owners in general WILL stop this, it discourages the criminals and "punishes" them for victimize law abiding citizens, often permanently something most states now refuse to do even for capital crimes.

October 31, 2011, 06:54 PM	#14
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	I thought it was "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome." I agree that the sheriff, as an elected official, has a lot more latitude in what he can say than would a political appointee. I suspect his electorate probably have no problem with his outspokenness.

October 31, 2011, 07:26 PM	#16
secret_agent_man Junior member Join Date: March 25, 2011 Posts: 463	I hope he ran that by the local DA first. Otherwise, great idea.

October 31, 2011, 07:47 PM	#17
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	This is a first for me. I have never heard any top LE, in a news conference, advocate getting a CWP, because the system is broke and they (LE) simply can't be everywhere.

October 31, 2011, 08:03 PM	#18
Romeo 33 Delta Senior Member Join Date: March 27, 2009 Posts: 315	Well, Al ... the pigs are flying, the fat lady sang, and the Devil's bitchin' about the ice forming around his ankles. May we live in interesting times

October 31, 2011, 08:15 PM	#20
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	Like most things in America today ... Only if it's Chinese!

October 31, 2011, 11:31 PM	#21
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	The mainstream press won't cover it, unless they can work it against him.

November 1, 2011, 01:54 AM	#24
youngunz4life Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2010 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,877	what's the old saying "Give that man a cigar!" __________________ "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" -Admiral Farragut @ Battle of Mobile Bay 05AUG1864