uberti 1866 little bighorn

hardin joe · November 4, 2010, 10:40 AM

i'm intrested in any information on a uberti 1866 saddle ring carbine, commemorating the indians victory at the little bighorn (1876-1976). is this a rare gun and if so/not what is a fair price. oh yeah it's listed as unfired. thanks

bedbugbilly · November 4, 2010, 04:55 PM

I'd love to see some photos of it. Any possibility of posting some? I had an ancestor with Custer at the Little Bighorn. Unfortunately, like those under Custer's command, he ended up wearing an "Arrow Shirt".

hardin joe · November 4, 2010, 05:07 PM

sorry for the misunderstanding, i'm following an auction on this particular gun..just looking for any info to make a more informed decision.

mike in nc · November 4, 2010, 07:40 PM

"Arrow Shirt",,,,,,,,,,,, oh,,,,,,,,,,, thats bad,,,,,,,,,,,,

hardin joe · November 4, 2010, 10:58 PM

ok i figured out how to post these...giddy up!

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arcticap · November 5, 2010, 02:24 AM

The 2003 Blue Book lists a Red Cloud Commemorative carbine with special engraving and brass tacks on the forearm and stock just like the one in the auction listing. Importation was discontinued in 1989 and the last MSR was $850.

That model was listed at $720 on 100% condition, and $600 in 98% condition back in 2003.

I don't know if the Red Cloud Commemorative is any more or less valuable than the Little Big Horn 1876 - 1976 Commemorative.
And there isn't any Little Big Horn Commemorative listed in the 2003 Blue Book.

There was another Uberti 1866 that was made both with and without tacks named the 1866 Yellowboy Indian Carbine. The .45 LC version was introduced in 1996 and the model was listed as having limited importation until 2002. The last MSR was $760, and its value in 100% condition was $670, and $535 in 98% condition in 2003. Subtract $50 if it doesn't have brass tacks.

From the looks of the bidding for other 1866's in .44-40, it doesn't seem like the .44-40's are all that popular. And it takes at least 2 people to continue to bid to raise the price.

hardin joe · November 5, 2010, 10:42 AM

thanks for the information, prior to this the only thing i could find on line was.....
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Uberti-1866-Little-Big-Horn-44-40.cfm?gun_id=100041830[/URL]
i'll have to be more restrained in my bidding!

Fingers McGee · November 5, 2010, 11:43 AM

There's one on GB right now http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=198714706

zullo74 · November 6, 2010, 07:22 AM

Fingers,

THAT is the rifle that the OP showed us pics of.

hardin joe · November 6, 2010, 11:10 PM

indeed it is...ok one last question(til the next question

) how important is the condition of the box, cause i don't plan on dislaying it?

arcticap · November 7, 2010, 03:25 AM

That's an interesting question. It depends on how important the condition or inclusion of the box is to you. Some folks consider an excellent original box for some guns to be worth an extra $25 - $50. But considering the quality of the original box, it's not really worth all that much. A generic substitute rifle box that's cushioned with foam might be more functional than the original. But many folks do like to have the original box included, even if it's only for posterity.

hardin joe · November 9, 2010, 05:25 PM

thanks for the information, and observations fella's. hope to be posting some new pictures soon.....

hardin joe · November 24, 2010, 12:08 AM

ok so i chickened out...the price got up to $800 and i ran across an example of the same gun with a factory patina (i think) it made me question the condition of this gun.....not sure that it matters...what do ya'll think...still looking!

Zhillsauditor · November 24, 2010, 07:00 AM

I've never understood the fake patina look some new guns come with. If I wanted a collector's item, I'd buy one.

I like my 22lr 1866 uberti; I'd like an 1860, but I don't want to spend the money on 44/40 or 45c. If I had money to burn (or reloading time to spare), I'd jump on the entire line of uberti replicas.

BODAME · November 24, 2010, 07:29 AM

As far as Uberti Quality , I shoot a couple of Brass Action 66s in 45LC(A Henry and a 20In ) they are Strong , Tuff . Reproductions.
The Indian Rifle would be a nice addition to any Cowboys Collection of Long Guns,being a 44-40 makes it better .

00 Hagen
Hiram's Ranger #24

November 4, 2010, 10:40 AM	#1
hardin joe Junior Member Join Date: November 4, 2010 Posts: 7	uberti 1866 little bighorn i'm intrested in any information on a uberti 1866 saddle ring carbine, commemorating the indians victory at the little bighorn (1876-1976). is this a rare gun and if so/not what is a fair price. oh yeah it's listed as unfired. thanks Last edited by hardin joe; November 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM.

November 4, 2010, 10:58 PM	#5
hardin joe Junior Member Join Date: November 4, 2010 Posts: 7	ok i figured out how to post these...giddy up! pix396355757.jpg pix582392865.jpg pix845381099.jpg Last edited by hardin joe; November 5, 2010 at 12:31 AM.

November 5, 2010, 02:24 AM	#6
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	The 2003 Blue Book lists a Red Cloud Commemorative carbine with special engraving and brass tacks on the forearm and stock just like the one in the auction listing. Importation was discontinued in 1989 and the last MSR was $850. That model was listed at $720 on 100% condition, and $600 in 98% condition back in 2003. I don't know if the Red Cloud Commemorative is any more or less valuable than the Little Big Horn 1876 - 1976 Commemorative. And there isn't any Little Big Horn Commemorative listed in the 2003 Blue Book. There was another Uberti 1866 that was made both with and without tacks named the 1866 Yellowboy Indian Carbine. The .45 LC version was introduced in 1996 and the model was listed as having limited importation until 2002. The last MSR was $760, and its value in 100% condition was $670, and $535 in 98% condition in 2003. Subtract $50 if it doesn't have brass tacks. From the looks of the bidding for other 1866's in .44-40, it doesn't seem like the .44-40's are all that popular. And it takes at least 2 people to continue to bid to raise the price. Last edited by arcticap; November 5, 2010 at 02:30 AM.

November 5, 2010, 11:43 AM	#8
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	There's one on GB right now http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=198714706 __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

November 6, 2010, 11:10 PM	#10
hardin joe Junior Member Join Date: November 4, 2010 Posts: 7	indeed it is...ok one last question(til the next question) how important is the condition of the box, cause i don't plan on dislaying it?

November 4, 2010, 04:55 PM	#2
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 3,287	I'd love to see some photos of it. Any possibility of posting some? I had an ancestor with Custer at the Little Bighorn. Unfortunately, like those under Custer's command, he ended up wearing an "Arrow Shirt". __________________ If a pair of '51 Navies were good enough for Billy Hickok, then a single Navy on my right hip is good enough for me . . . besides . . . I'm probably only half as good as he was anyways. Hiram's Rangers Badge #63

November 4, 2010, 05:07 PM	#3
hardin joe Junior Member Join Date: November 4, 2010 Posts: 7	sorry for the misunderstanding, i'm following an auction on this particular gun..just looking for any info to make a more informed decision.

November 4, 2010, 07:40 PM	#4
mike in nc Member Join Date: August 19, 2010 Posts: 23	"Arrow Shirt",,,,,,,,,,,, oh,,,,,,,,,,, thats bad,,,,,,,,,,,,

November 5, 2010, 10:42 AM	#7
hardin joe Junior Member Join Date: November 4, 2010 Posts: 7	thanks for the information, prior to this the only thing i could find on line was..... http://www.gunsinternational.com/Uberti-1866-Little-Big-Horn-44-40.cfm?gun_id=100041830[/URL] i'll have to be more restrained in my bidding!

November 6, 2010, 07:22 AM	#9
zullo74 Junior member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Posts: 374	Fingers, THAT is the rifle that the OP showed us pics of.

November 7, 2010, 03:25 AM	#11
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 3,166	That's an interesting question. It depends on how important the condition or inclusion of the box is to you. Some folks consider an excellent original box for some guns to be worth an extra $25 - $50. But considering the quality of the original box, it's not really worth all that much. A generic substitute rifle box that's cushioned with foam might be more functional than the original. But many folks do like to have the original box included, even if it's only for posterity. Last edited by arcticap; November 7, 2010 at 03:41 AM.

November 9, 2010, 05:25 PM	#12
hardin joe Junior Member Join Date: November 4, 2010 Posts: 7	thanks for the information, and observations fella's. hope to be posting some new pictures soon.....

November 24, 2010, 07:00 AM	#14
Zhillsauditor Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2008 Posts: 635	I've never understood the fake patina look some new guns come with. If I wanted a collector's item, I'd buy one. I like my 22lr 1866 uberti; I'd like an 1860, but I don't want to spend the money on 44/40 or 45c. If I had money to burn (or reloading time to spare), I'd jump on the entire line of uberti replicas.

November 24, 2010, 07:29 AM	#15
BODAME Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2006 Location: The Dodge House, NC Posts: 183	66 UBERTI As far as Uberti Quality , I shoot a couple of Brass Action 66s in 45LC(A Henry and a 20In ) they are Strong , Tuff . Reproductions. The Indian Rifle would be a nice addition to any Cowboys Collection of Long Guns,being a 44-40 makes it better . 00 Hagen Hiram's Ranger #24 __________________ "A Man's got to have a Code, a Creed to Live By, No Matter his Job"