Recommendations for custom work.

frogdude2100 · August 3, 2018, 02:09 PM

Hello everyone. I have a Remington Model 11 12 ga. from 1928 that was my Dads turkey gun. I want to make a home defense gun out of it, shorter barrel, mag extention, and cerakote. Any recommendations for a good gunsmith in the St. Louis, Missouri area?

indie_rocker · August 5, 2018, 08:27 AM

Why would you do that to your dads gun? You can buy used home defense shotguns for under 200.

Chief Brody · August 5, 2018, 09:37 AM

Seconded. No reason to modify a family heirloom like that when HD shotguns can be found so easily.

Bill DeShivs · August 5, 2018, 03:19 PM

Agreed.
What you propose would probably cost more than another shotgun already set up like you want. And, it will totally destroy the original gun's value and character.

Fishbed77 · August 6, 2018, 11:51 AM

Please don't ruin your father's shotgun.

Go buy a Mossberg Maverick 88 Security or similar for under $200 (less than you'll spend modifying the Remington 11) and you'll have a better defensive shotgun.

T. O'Heir · August 6, 2018, 12:46 PM

You won't find an off the shelf mag extension or any other parts for a Model 11. And you can't just put one on if you could find one.
"...the original gun's value..." Isn't terribly high. $4-500ish on Gunbroker. Still better to buy a Maverick 88/Mossberg M500.

Ricklin · August 7, 2018, 09:56 AM

Don't trash a family heirloom.

DavidAGO · August 7, 2018, 02:21 PM

Because of the recoil mechanism it would be hard to just shorten the barrel and have it work reliably. yes, there were military and police versions that were shortened, yes, Bonnie and Clyde had a shortened version. it would most probably fire, but it may or may not cycle reliably depending on the load. and dependable cycling is a requirement for a repeater shotgun used for home defense.

David

frogdude2100 · August 7, 2018, 03:19 PM

Thanks for the insight. It's in rough condition. Perhaps I would be better served buying something else.

Model12Win · August 7, 2018, 03:20 PM

One of the worst ideas I've read on this board.

Get a Maverick 88 and put a light on it, a stock that fits you, and a sling. Maybe a side saddle too.

frogdude2100 · August 7, 2018, 03:25 PM

That being said, which AUTOLOADER should I start with? I don't want a pump shotgun.

Model12Win · August 8, 2018, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by frogdude2100

That being said, which AUTOLOADER should I start with? I don't want a pump shotgun.

Benelli M4 if you can afford it.

frogdude2100 · August 8, 2018, 02:36 AM

I wish.

FITASC · August 8, 2018, 06:46 AM

Rem 1100 will work nicely

frogdude2100 · August 12, 2018, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FITASC

Rem 1100 will work nicely

That's probable a much better option.

agtman · August 12, 2018, 05:18 PM

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That being said, which AUTOLOADER should I start with? I don't want a pump shotgun.

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Model12Win · August 12, 2018, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frogdude2100

That's probable a much better option.

Or a Beretta 1301 Tactical or an FN SLP.

Just know good auto shotguns aren't as inexpensive as good pump shotguns. Nothing wrong with an 1100 but keep it clean and make sure it runs your chosen carry ammo.

Don Fischer · August 18, 2018, 09:24 AM

The only auto loader I've ever used was a Browning Double Auto, best there ever was I think. Wait, at one time I have I thing it was a mod 48 in 28ga. I was young then and 28 just didn't seen adequate to me.

Come's to buying guns my first choice is generally one that I hear lot's of good about. lacking that, I have to have the gun in my hand to get a feel for it. I'm going out on a limb with my next I think, Dickson SxS. I had a Bernedelli years ago but SxS mode hadn't set in yet. Then down the road more years I got a Charles Daly I really liked. Super gun! My son has it now. Have three AyA's now and the only think that keeps me from getting another is price!

Go look at guns in the action you think you want. The one that would interest me most would be the Rem 1100, seem's everyone loves them. I picked a 12 ga up a couple times and notices two thing's. They were heavy and dumped the MTY case's on the ground! But recently I'd been thinking os a 28 in a semi and guns that caught my attentio were the 1100 nd one I'd never heard of, a tri star. I'm thinking Ill still get one just to fool with and thinking the Tri Star, for no other reason than the way it looks!

August 3, 2018, 02:09 PM	#1
frogdude2100 Junior Member Join Date: August 2, 2018 Posts: 5	Recommendations for custom work. Hello everyone. I have a Remington Model 11 12 ga. from 1928 that was my Dads turkey gun. I want to make a home defense gun out of it, shorter barrel, mag extention, and cerakote. Any recommendations for a good gunsmith in the St. Louis, Missouri area?

August 5, 2018, 03:19 PM	#4
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,981	Agreed. What you propose would probably cost more than another shotgun already set up like you want. And, it will totally destroy the original gun's value and character. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

August 6, 2018, 12:46 PM	#6
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	You won't find an off the shelf mag extension or any other parts for a Model 11. And you can't just put one on if you could find one. "...the original gun's value..." Isn't terribly high. $4-500ish on Gunbroker. Still better to buy a Maverick 88/Mossberg M500. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

August 7, 2018, 09:56 AM	#7
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,011	Please do not Don't trash a family heirloom. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

August 7, 2018, 03:19 PM	#9
frogdude2100 Junior Member Join Date: August 2, 2018 Posts: 5	Thanks for the insight. It's in rough condition. Perhaps I would be better served buying something else. Last edited by frogdude2100; August 7, 2018 at 03:25 PM.

August 5, 2018, 08:27 AM	#2
indie_rocker Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2014 Location: Michigan Posts: 189	Why would you do that to your dads gun? You can buy used home defense shotguns for under 200.

August 5, 2018, 09:37 AM	#3
Chief Brody Member Join Date: October 12, 2012 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 81	Seconded. No reason to modify a family heirloom like that when HD shotguns can be found so easily.

August 6, 2018, 11:51 AM	#5
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Please don't ruin your father's shotgun. Go buy a Mossberg Maverick 88 Security or similar for under $200 (less than you'll spend modifying the Remington 11) and you'll have a better defensive shotgun.

August 7, 2018, 02:21 PM	#8
DavidAGO Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2008 Location: Magnolia, AR Posts: 340	Because of the recoil mechanism it would be hard to just shorten the barrel and have it work reliably. yes, there were military and police versions that were shortened, yes, Bonnie and Clyde had a shortened version. it would most probably fire, but it may or may not cycle reliably depending on the load. and dependable cycling is a requirement for a repeater shotgun used for home defense. David

August 7, 2018, 03:20 PM	#10
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	One of the worst ideas I've read on this board. Get a Maverick 88 and put a light on it, a stock that fits you, and a sling. Maybe a side saddle too.

August 7, 2018, 03:25 PM	#11
frogdude2100 Junior Member Join Date: August 2, 2018 Posts: 5	That being said, which AUTOLOADER should I start with? I don't want a pump shotgun.

August 8, 2018, 02:36 AM	#13
frogdude2100 Junior Member Join Date: August 2, 2018 Posts: 5	I wish.

August 8, 2018, 06:46 AM	#14
FITASC Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 2014 Posts: 6,441	Rem 1100 will work nicely __________________ "I believe that people have a right to decide their own destinies; people own themselves. I also believe that, in a democracy, government exists because (and only so long as) individual citizens give it a 'temporary license to exist'—in exchange for a promise that it will behave itself. In a democracy, you own the government—it doesn't own you."- Frank Zappa

August 18, 2018, 09:24 AM	#18
Don Fischer Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2017 Posts: 1,868	The only auto loader I've ever used was a Browning Double Auto, best there ever was I think. Wait, at one time I have I thing it was a mod 48 in 28ga. I was young then and 28 just didn't seen adequate to me. Come's to buying guns my first choice is generally one that I hear lot's of good about. lacking that, I have to have the gun in my hand to get a feel for it. I'm going out on a limb with my next I think, Dickson SxS. I had a Bernedelli years ago but SxS mode hadn't set in yet. Then down the road more years I got a Charles Daly I really liked. Super gun! My son has it now. Have three AyA's now and the only think that keeps me from getting another is price! Go look at guns in the action you think you want. The one that would interest me most would be the Rem 1100, seem's everyone loves them. I picked a 12 ga up a couple times and notices two thing's. They were heavy and dumped the MTY case's on the ground! But recently I'd been thinking os a 28 in a semi and guns that caught my attentio were the 1100 nd one I'd never heard of, a tri star. I'm thinking Ill still get one just to fool with and thinking the Tri Star, for no other reason than the way it looks!