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Old May 6, 2016, 05:01 AM   #26
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I don't answer any questions asked by police officers beyond the required paperwork (Drivers License, Registration, Insurance). I admit that they generally don't like this, but frankly, I don't care.

I don't have many dealings with them, but I have never been asked if I have any weapons, the first question is usually something like "where are you going", and they never get past the first question.
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Old May 6, 2016, 10:48 AM   #27
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You have to question why he pulled you over, in the first place. You probably broke a law.
LOL! You must never drive through small towns where they don't have a lot to do.
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Old May 7, 2016, 01:15 PM   #28
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I thought guns were ban in CCCalifornia.

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Old May 7, 2016, 01:45 PM   #29
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Old May 7, 2016, 02:29 PM   #30
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If I lived in an area where an officer of the law overreacting to the declaration of having a weapon in the vehicle was a concern I would move.
Although I understand the sentiment. I would advise not doing that.
That response is why they have control of well over half our country now.
Had people stayed and engaged these whakos in the 70's and 80's we would not be at risk of having our freedom gleefully voted away today.
The more they push us into groups the more they can control.

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Old May 7, 2016, 07:15 PM   #31
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A lot of worthless and useless chatter in this thread. The issue raised by the OP, who says he lives in California, is primarily a unique, California issue.

Under California law, a handgun transported in a vehicle must be unloaded and in a locked container. There is a California statute that basically provides that if an LEO is aware there's a gun in the car, he must be allowed to inspect it to verify that it is being transported properly. That statute has survived Fourht Amendment challenges, so its validity and effect aren't at present subject to challenge.

Given the underlying California law, the OP's question is a basic and practical one. So much that has been posted is very much beside the point and completely irrelevant to his concerns.
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Old May 8, 2016, 05:40 PM   #32
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You need to live in Arizona. When I was younger and got pulled over I told the cop I had a gun and his response was "this is Arizina. Who doesn't?" Never asked to see it or anything. Just gave me my warning and went on his way
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Old May 9, 2016, 09:05 PM   #33
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I was stopped at a DWI check point and was asked about weapons in my van. I said yes have 20 shotguns and 4,000 rounds of shotgun shells I was promptly escorted to the range I was going to and they even helped unload for the for the shoot which was for PAL club.
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Old May 10, 2016, 09:05 AM   #34
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Would have liked to see the looks on faces before they understood and offered to help.
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Old May 10, 2016, 07:55 PM   #35
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As has been answered already, your response will depend on local laws. As many have said, the overwhelming vast majority of law abiding motorists will never be asked for much more than license, registration, why did you commit xxxxxxxx traffic violation. We are kind of sweating the small stuff unless you have a (recent) criminal record, face tattoos of tear drops or lil Wayne crosses, and you're in the rough part of town. I highly doubt most people that I envision on this forum would set off a cops spidy senses.

That being said, stuff happens. You take a wrong turn, wind up in the rough part of town, you circle the block twice trying to find your way back to a main road, and its late at night. You happen to make a turn without signaling and get pulled, because at that point the cop is begging for a traffic violation so he can talk to you. Why, because this is his beat and he thinks you just circled the block twice to go sell stolen property at one of the eight dope houses on the block. He would be a lousy cop if he didn't at least suspect that. Your best bet? Stay calm, answer the questions politely, be cooperative, and explain your circumstance when you get a chance. In this way, there is a 99% chance of a good outcome. It will be seen for the misunderstanding that it is and you will likely be aided on your way and out if the rough part of town.

The overwhelming vast majority of cops are good people and don't want to cart the innocent off to jail. There is a minority of cops who are dirty, or at least are curt and jerks. If you are unlucky enough to encounter this minority, sue them later. If you start to feel the cop is going overboard for no reason, take your phone out and discreetly record the encounter.
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Old May 10, 2016, 09:59 PM   #36
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The overwhelming vast majority of cops are good people and don't want to cart the innocent off to jail.
I agree, and that's the way cops are here where I am.

The reason I posted this thread is because my firearms trainer told the class we should keep quiet, but I generally like cops and appreciate the job they do. Every cop I've talked to was cool, and I don't want to get into an argument with them.

I haven't been pulled over for a traffic violation in decades, but I have been stopped a DUI checkpoints. That's another topic, not firearms related. Please don't go there. ;-)
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Old May 10, 2016, 11:41 PM   #37
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One of the reasons a trainer or instructor will advise not saying anything is that the less you open your mouth, the better the odds of keeping your foot out of it.

There is always the unlikely, but not impossible chance of meeting the cop who freaks out at hearing there is a gun somewhere that you get bodyslammed into the hood of your car, or worse, shot up.

These kind of people aren't supposed to be out there, but they could be.

Personally, (and it hasn't happened, yet) I'd be fine with telling the officer ON PRINCIPLE, that I have firearms, in legal storage for transport in my vehicle.

However, I do wonder about the risk of harm to my old, getting frail self while the younger, possibly paranoid officer "secures" the situation. Watchinc COPS type shows teaches that, now doesn't it??

I am mildly concerned about the possibility of a cop asking a "fishing" type question (such as "for his safey, is there anything dangerous in the vehicle?), etc., my HONEST reply in the negative, and then him deciding I deliberately lied to him when a gun(s) turns up. I do honestly believe that an unloaded gun, in a case, or a locked compartment (trunk) is NOT a danger to ANYONE.

But if their opinion is that the presence of a gun, even properly stored for transport is a "danger" to them, they aren't going to believe I told the truth.

The overwhelming majority of cops are reasonable people, but there are some who aren't, Probably always been this way, probably always will be. Every group has bad apples, and if you keep your mouth shut (other than when you have to) odds are better you won't get a big bite.
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Old May 11, 2016, 10:45 AM   #38
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Let's stay focused on the OP. It's about a legal concern, not safe gun handling.
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Old May 12, 2016, 01:24 AM   #39
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As the OP, I think the advice I received here was very good and excellent in some cases. I am going against the advice of my trainer and taking the best advice given here.

Cheers.
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Old May 12, 2016, 05:23 AM   #40
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I would recommend obeying your local laws when you carry weapons. In Southern California, with it's constantly changing and rather restrictive gun laws, that might require some research. So, do the research and comply even it's a PITA.

When I got my Alabama carry permit, I asked about how to handle a stop. The officer told me that if I had a gun in my car, either a concealed pistol or a rifle/shotgun, I should hand the officer my permit along with my drivers license, but not say anything. Then let the cop ask about weapons if he feels it's necessary.

I asked if it was OK to carry loaded long guns in my car. He laughed and said I could carry a loaded shotgun across my lap if I wanted to, but please try to keep the muzzle pointed away from the law enforcement officer when he walks up to the window.

I'm glad I no longer live in New York or SoCal.
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Old May 12, 2016, 10:50 AM   #41
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Personally, where I live, I'd just answer the question, if asked. "Yes, I have firearms in my car - I'm just coming home from XYZ shooting range.

Since I have a CC license, I disclose the fact that I have my carry gun on me or in the car. I'm not required to do this, but I do to avoid any problems. I don't know for sure, but I believe the cops have access to information on who has CC permits.

When I was pulled over a couple of years ago, I kept my hands on the steering wheel and after the officer approached my car and said what he had to say, I said: "Officer, I just want to inform you that I have a CC license and have a firearm in the car." He asked me where it was. I told him it was in in my glove compartment. The problem was that my wallet/license was also in my glove compartment (both had been locked in there while I was at the gym). So I just asked him what he wanted me to do. He asked if I would mind handing him the gun to hold until he was done. I just gave him permission to retrieve the gun and wallet himself. He was fine with that. He took the gun, unloaded it. When he was done he handed me back my gun, magazine and cartridges.

It's probably best not to keep your license in the same place your gun is stored. I personally just stay calm, remain reasonable and cooperative. I'm not suggesting that others do it the way I do, I might be a little too cooperative which could be a problem in some situations, but it's what works for me.
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Old May 12, 2016, 11:34 PM   #42
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Be respectful. Answer truthfully. Don't challenge him to a quick draw contest.
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Old May 13, 2016, 12:45 PM   #43
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As has been answered already, your response will depend on local laws.
I question that, and don't think it is a matter of state law. I think the unanswered question here is when you are pulled over, are you required to answer that question, and if you don't wish to answer that question, what answer can you lawfully give that does not cast suspicion on you for what would seem to be an inappropriate question? We all know that you do not have to incriminate yourself, but whether they act on it or not, their questions are aimed at getting you to incriminate yourself. "Do you know why I pulled you over?" "Where are you going?" "Where are you coming from?" "How much did you have to drink tonight?" It is Soooo..... easy to get trapped if you are not prepared. The reason you have the right to remain silent is so your attorney can tell you to shut up, and instruct you on what you are REQUIRED to answer.
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Old May 14, 2016, 12:46 PM   #44
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Why would one even ask?
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Old May 14, 2016, 02:13 PM   #45
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Here in louisiana if you get pulled over they are gona ask if you have any dead bodies, bazooka's, or anything they should know about in your trunk. It's gona happen almost everytime. If you dont laugh or give a quick calm response then they have probable cause. They are looking for drug runners. It's a question they use to see how nervous you are. I'm sure other states have similar types of questions.
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Old May 14, 2016, 03:10 PM   #46
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Tell him that he has Krispy Kreme powdered sugar on his uniform shirt.

Why would you fear a cop asking you whether you have a gun in your car?

BTW, if a cop suspects you have a gun in your car, he'll ask, "Do you have weapons in your car?"
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Old May 15, 2016, 10:09 PM   #47
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As already said:

1. Supply the information required by the state law as a base of your response.

2. If it is the case that the police may remove you from the car or search it due to circumstances which they may think are legal, do you want them to find the gun as a surprise? Will that go well? You can always complain later.

3. Are you just making a point and willing to take the ride in the car, to the ground or to the morgue? Easy to say that here that you want a gun in your ear.
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Old May 16, 2016, 04:21 AM   #48
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Deleted since it has been covered.

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Old May 16, 2016, 11:19 AM   #49
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Have been considering possible replies to a cop asking "is there a gun (or weapons) in your vehicle?"

"of course! Don't you??"

"is yours broken? Do you want to borrow mine?

"if there isn't, then I want to report a theft!!"

"May I search YOUR car? for my own safety??"

etc.

Saying things like that, while amusing, may not end well, if the cop doesn't have a sense of humor...

Some states require that you inform the officer if you have a Concealed Carry permit (whether you have a gun with you, or not) by law. Others, in the modern age, show the cop you do have one, on their computer.

I'm retired, and other than Dr appointments, or going to a movie, there's no place I HAVE to be "on time". So, I could spend as much time with the nice officer as needed, without impacting my schedule much. And if I give the smart ass answers I'd like to give, I probably will be spending more time than needed. Unlike my younger days 40 some years ago, my car is in full legal operating condition (all the lights are there, and work, etc.) and I do have auto insurance. I even wear the damn seatbelt ALL the time. And, I haven't been stopped for any reason in years, but I'm ready, if I get the chance!
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Old May 16, 2016, 11:24 AM   #50
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As long as you remember everything you are saying in your nice chat can be used against you and will be if possible.

We must have lived in different areas. When I lived in Cali you didn't volunteer anything as they were looking for a reason to put you on the ground and search your vehicle prior to arresting you for something. if they pulled you over you were going to jail for something. Period.
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