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Classic12 · October 28, 2022, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnKSa

Very interesting. Is there significant collector value to such items?

Not significant in terms of money, abt $ 50.- per box

However they are quite rare, since they were likely stolen from the army

Classic12 · December 9, 2022, 08:37 AM

Picked up a mix of ammo from a guy who sold his guns, .22 lr, 9mm, .38 spl, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .223. I paid $ 360 for the lot, 1450 rds of .22 and 860 rds of other calibers.

And a lot of 7.62X39 from another guy. His rifle didn’t like the steel case. My Norincos will swallow anything.

920 rounds of Barnaul

And 440 rounds of Bishkek, milsurp from the Kirghiz republic. $ 500 for 1360 rounds in total

**4V50 Gary** · December 9, 2022, 10:42 AM

If stored in dry conditions, it should be OK.

I was given some 30 carbine and had case separation. I had to pull the boolits and set the cases aside for melting. Old powder is nitrate based so it's good as fertilizer.

**JohnKSa** · December 9, 2022, 03:22 PM

Assuming all the ammo was stored properly and is as marked (what's marked on the box is what's in the box) those deals are pretty good even for the U.S. I'm assuming that those prices are extremely good for your country.

Aqualife · December 10, 2022, 09:01 PM

Love the 32 Special rounds

Classic12 · December 16, 2022, 09:58 AM

Found 240 rounds of Pistol Cartridge 41, the Swiss military 9mm round manufactured in the Thun arsenal factory, in a gun shop. The best quality 9mm imo. This is what I exclusively shoot in competitions and matches.

More intriguing and probably rare, they also had a box of Winchester .38 special Mid Range with a Swiss army label on it.

I have no idea what this was used for, the Swiss army being primarily equipped with semi automatic pistols since 1900 and the first Swiss Luger (Parabellum Pistole 1900).

**JohnKSa** · December 16, 2022, 02:18 PM

Without any more information, I would speculate that maybe there was some kind of competition team at some point that needed the ammunition. That is pretty strange. I'll bet there are some cartridge collectors out there who would be interested in something like that.

Classic12 · January 27, 2023, 04:46 AM

Another Swiss curiosity I just found, two complete packages of cartridge 326, that is 7.65 mm short or Browning (.32 ACP in the US), manufactured in the Swiss arsenal factory of Thun (today property of RUAG).

The Swiss army acquired 730 Walther PPK, 415 with lightweight alloy frames (Duralium) and 315 with steel frames (Pistole 65). Those were issued to pilots of Mirage III fighter jets as well as some ground personnel

**JohnKSa** · January 27, 2023, 06:34 AM

You're on your way to having a pretty decent firearms/ammunition museum!

Classic12 · January 28, 2023, 12:06 PM

LGS sold me 600 rds of GP11 / 7.5 Swiss for a bargain 0.25 $ per round

And from various private sellers

650 rds of GP90 / Swiss 5.56 NATO

200 rds of South African (PMP- Pretoria Metal Pressing) R1M1 7.62 X 51 NATO from 1981

Shot their 5.56 NATO, good ammo imo

950 rds of Old PMC .357 and a box of vintage Magtech

250 rds of Various .357

Classic12 · January 28, 2023, 12:07 PM

250 rds of 9mm subsonic

200 rds of Vintage CCI Stinger

200 rds of .30 Carbine

1000 rds of .22 Magnum

550 rds of Vintage Magtech .38 special wad cutter

A good start of the year for my ammo stash

December 9, 2022, 10:42 AM	#78
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,680	If stored in dry conditions, it should be OK. I was given some 30 carbine and had case separation. I had to pull the boolits and set the cases aside for melting. Old powder is nitrate based so it's good as fertilizer. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

December 9, 2022, 03:22 PM	#79
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,579	Assuming all the ammo was stored properly and is as marked (what's marked on the box is what's in the box) those deals are pretty good even for the U.S. I'm assuming that those prices are extremely good for your country. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

December 16, 2022, 02:18 PM	#82
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,579	Without any more information, I would speculate that maybe there was some kind of competition team at some point that needed the ammunition. That is pretty strange. I'll bet there are some cartridge collectors out there who would be interested in something like that. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

January 27, 2023, 06:34 AM	#84
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,579	You're on your way to having a pretty decent firearms/ammunition museum! __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

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December 9, 2022, 08:37 AM	#77
Classic12 Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2020 Posts: 696	Picked up a mix of ammo from a guy who sold his guns, .22 lr, 9mm, .38 spl, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .223. I paid $ 360 for the lot, 1450 rds of .22 and 860 rds of other calibers. And a lot of 7.62X39 from another guy. His rifle didn’t like the steel case. My Norincos will swallow anything. 920 rounds of Barnaul And 440 rounds of Bishkek, milsurp from the Kirghiz republic. $ 500 for 1360 rounds in total

December 10, 2022, 09:01 PM	#80
Aqualife Member Join Date: June 2, 2018 Posts: 29	Love the 32 Special rounds

December 16, 2022, 09:58 AM	#81
Classic12 Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2020 Posts: 696	Found 240 rounds of Pistol Cartridge 41, the Swiss military 9mm round manufactured in the Thun arsenal factory, in a gun shop. The best quality 9mm imo. This is what I exclusively shoot in competitions and matches. More intriguing and probably rare, they also had a box of Winchester .38 special Mid Range with a Swiss army label on it. I have no idea what this was used for, the Swiss army being primarily equipped with semi automatic pistols since 1900 and the first Swiss Luger (Parabellum Pistole 1900).

January 27, 2023, 04:46 AM	#83
Classic12 Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2020 Posts: 696	Another Swiss curiosity I just found, two complete packages of cartridge 326, that is 7.65 mm short or Browning (.32 ACP in the US), manufactured in the Swiss arsenal factory of Thun (today property of RUAG). The Swiss army acquired 730 Walther PPK, 415 with lightweight alloy frames (Duralium) and 315 with steel frames (Pistole 65). Those were issued to pilots of Mirage III fighter jets as well as some ground personnel

January 28, 2023, 12:06 PM	#85
Classic12 Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2020 Posts: 696	LGS sold me 600 rds of GP11 / 7.5 Swiss for a bargain 0.25 $ per round And from various private sellers 650 rds of GP90 / Swiss 5.56 NATO 200 rds of South African (PMP- Pretoria Metal Pressing) R1M1 7.62 X 51 NATO from 1981 Shot their 5.56 NATO, good ammo imo 950 rds of Old PMC .357 and a box of vintage Magtech 250 rds of Various .357

January 28, 2023, 12:07 PM	#86
Classic12 Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2020 Posts: 696	250 rds of 9mm subsonic 200 rds of Vintage CCI Stinger 200 rds of .30 Carbine 1000 rds of .22 Magnum 550 rds of Vintage Magtech .38 special wad cutter A good start of the year for my ammo stash