Creedmoor brass

kuca_2004 · May 11, 2016, 05:08 PM

I am having trouble find 6.5 creedmoor brass unless I buy factory loads. Wanting to know what it takes to turn .243 brass into 6.5 creedmoor brass. Or any other common caliber brass I can turn into creedmoor.

qrz · May 11, 2016, 08:45 PM

http://65creedmoor.com/index.php?topic=2586.0
I would do mine differently but here is a general idea to garner some info that you can change to your liking.

zeke · May 11, 2016, 09:43 PM

When looking for Hdy 6.5 creedmoor brass, had best luck monitoring Powder Valley and Midway.

stagpanther · May 12, 2016, 06:19 AM

I don't reform brass into creedmoor mostly because I don't have appropriate parent cases.

I just buy Hornady's brass mostly because it's fairly inexpensive compared to norma and lupua (though I would spend the extra bucks on lapua if I could find it) and it's built robustly--the extra thickness in the cases is quite noticeable. Alternatively, I occasionally find their 129 gr GMX ammo on sale for around $25.00, which is an good price for factory ammo which I've found to rival the best handloads I've developed so far and then re-use the brass.

Txhillbilly · May 12, 2016, 08:42 AM

The easiest way to form brass for the 6.5 Creedmoor is to fire form 22-250 brass into 6.5 Creedmoor. It will be a little short,but after a couple firings it will be the same length.
I just resized the neck of the 22-250 case to 6.5mm,and fire formed the cases using the Cream of Wheat method and Unique powder.

zeke · May 16, 2016, 09:41 PM

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/528...moor-box-of-50

zeke · May 17, 2016, 08:45 PM

http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

qrz · May 18, 2016, 12:04 AM

Be sure to pay attention to the thickness of the neck brass and don't forget the paper clip test before you reload them. It gets to easy just looking for color, loose primers, cracked necks and forget the labor intensive inspections. Use a good magnifying glass to roll your brass under as well.

stagpanther · May 18, 2016, 12:40 AM

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Be sure to pay attention to the thickness of the neck brass

That's what I found with Hornady's brass--especially thick in the neck/shoulder area.

TimW77 · May 19, 2016, 03:21 AM

"The easiest way to form brass for the 6.5 Creedmoor is to fire form 22-250 brass into 6.5 Creedmoor."

Even easier is to use the correct parent case...

Try using .30 T/C brass (if you can find it)...

Next choice is .250 Savage brass (again if you can find it), requires less forming than the .22-250...

Third and last choice would be the .22-250...

None of the .308 family of cartridges is really a good choice for forming the 6.5 Creedmore...

Longer case families such as the X57mm and .30-06 are even less suitable...

T.

603Country · May 19, 2016, 09:06 AM

The 6.5 Creedmore is actually a 6.5-250 Savage Ackley Improved, which is why it can be formed from 22-250 brass. And I read that the 30TC brass works well, but since the 250-3000 predates the 30TC, the parent case is more logically (to me) the 250 Savage/250 AI.

TimW77 · May 20, 2016, 09:38 PM

The 6.5 Creedmore is actually a 6.5-250 Savage Ackley Improved, which is why it can be formed from 22-250 brass. And I read that the 30TC brass works well, but since the 250-3000 predates the 30TC,

"...the parent case is more logically (to me) the 250 Savage/250 AI."

Kind of silly to talk 250 Savage/250 AI when the question is "Wanting to know what it takes... Or any other common caliber brass I can turn into creedmoor."

"The 6.5 Creedmore is actually a 6.5-250 Savage Ackley Improved..."

Not hardly, might want to check your sources...

"The 6.5 Creedmoor’s case (formed by simply necking down the .30 TC) is..."

"The 6.5mm Creedmoor is a centerfire rifle cartridge introduced by Hornady in 2007[6] as a modification of the .30 TC,[7] whi..."

"And I read that the 30TC brass works well..."

Again kind of silly since "The 6.5mm Creedmoor is a centerfire rifle cartridge introduced by Hornady in 2007[6] as a modification of the .30 TC,[7] whi..." Would think Hornady, which created the cartridge would know more...

"...but since the 250-3000 predates the 30TC..."

The parent of a parent, is NOT the parent...

The case the 6.5 Creedmore was developed from (making it the parent) IS the .30 TC...

T.

603Country · May 21, 2016, 08:45 AM

You are right in saying the 30TC is the basis for, and is the parent case of the 6.5 CM. That's what Hornady says, but the 30 TC didn't just get developed from scratch. Some published data suggests that the actual parent case is the 250 Savage, or more specifically the 250 AI, and they far predate the 30TC.

zplinker · May 21, 2016, 09:08 AM

I have a 'bunch' of new R-P 250 Savage brass, if anyone is interested. Not sure how many, but a few hundred. If interested, send a pm.

May 11, 2016, 05:08 PM	#1
kuca_2004 Member Join Date: May 8, 2011 Posts: 98	Creedmoor brass I am having trouble find 6.5 creedmoor brass unless I buy factory loads. Wanting to know what it takes to turn .243 brass into 6.5 creedmoor brass. Or any other common caliber brass I can turn into creedmoor.

May 12, 2016, 06:19 AM	#4
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 11,786	I don't reform brass into creedmoor mostly because I don't have appropriate parent cases. I just buy Hornady's brass mostly because it's fairly inexpensive compared to norma and lupua (though I would spend the extra bucks on lapua if I could find it) and it's built robustly--the extra thickness in the cases is quite noticeable. Alternatively, I occasionally find their 129 gr GMX ammo on sale for around $25.00, which is an good price for factory ammo which I've found to rival the best handloads I've developed so far and then re-use the brass. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

May 11, 2016, 08:45 PM	#2
qrz Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2016 Posts: 101	http://65creedmoor.com/index.php?topic=2586.0 I would do mine differently but here is a general idea to garner some info that you can change to your liking.

May 11, 2016, 09:43 PM	#3
zeke Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: NW Wi Posts: 1,671	When looking for Hdy 6.5 creedmoor brass, had best luck monitoring Powder Valley and Midway.

May 12, 2016, 08:42 AM	#5
Txhillbilly Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2008 Posts: 512	The easiest way to form brass for the 6.5 Creedmoor is to fire form 22-250 brass into 6.5 Creedmoor. It will be a little short,but after a couple firings it will be the same length. I just resized the neck of the 22-250 case to 6.5mm,and fire formed the cases using the Cream of Wheat method and Unique powder.

May 16, 2016, 09:41 PM	#6
zeke Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: NW Wi Posts: 1,671	http://www.midwayusa.com/product/528...moor-box-of-50

May 17, 2016, 08:45 PM	#7
zeke Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: NW Wi Posts: 1,671	http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

May 18, 2016, 12:04 AM	#8
qrz Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2016 Posts: 101	Be sure to pay attention to the thickness of the neck brass and don't forget the paper clip test before you reload them. It gets to easy just looking for color, loose primers, cracked necks and forget the labor intensive inspections. Use a good magnifying glass to roll your brass under as well.

May 19, 2016, 03:21 AM	#10
TimW77 Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2008 Posts: 485	"The easiest way to form brass for the 6.5 Creedmoor is to fire form 22-250 brass into 6.5 Creedmoor." Even easier is to use the correct parent case... Try using .30 T/C brass (if you can find it)... Next choice is .250 Savage brass (again if you can find it), requires less forming than the .22-250... Third and last choice would be the .22-250... None of the .308 family of cartridges is really a good choice for forming the 6.5 Creedmore... Longer case families such as the X57mm and .30-06 are even less suitable... T.

May 19, 2016, 09:06 AM	#11
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	The 6.5 Creedmore is actually a 6.5-250 Savage Ackley Improved, which is why it can be formed from 22-250 brass. And I read that the 30TC brass works well, but since the 250-3000 predates the 30TC, the parent case is more logically (to me) the 250 Savage/250 AI.

May 20, 2016, 09:38 PM	#12
TimW77 Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2008 Posts: 485	The 6.5 Creedmore is actually a 6.5-250 Savage Ackley Improved, which is why it can be formed from 22-250 brass. And I read that the 30TC brass works well, but since the 250-3000 predates the 30TC, "...the parent case is more logically (to me) the 250 Savage/250 AI." Kind of silly to talk 250 Savage/250 AI when the question is "Wanting to know what it takes... Or any other common caliber brass I can turn into creedmoor." "The 6.5 Creedmore is actually a 6.5-250 Savage Ackley Improved..." Not hardly, might want to check your sources... "The 6.5 Creedmoor’s case (formed by simply necking down the .30 TC) is..." "The 6.5mm Creedmoor is a centerfire rifle cartridge introduced by Hornady in 2007[6] as a modification of the .30 TC,[7] whi..." "And I read that the 30TC brass works well..." Again kind of silly since "The 6.5mm Creedmoor is a centerfire rifle cartridge introduced by Hornady in 2007[6] as a modification of the .30 TC,[7] whi..." Would think Hornady, which created the cartridge would know more... "...but since the 250-3000 predates the 30TC..." The parent of a parent, is NOT the parent... The case the 6.5 Creedmore was developed from (making it the parent) IS the .30 TC... T.

May 21, 2016, 08:45 AM	#13
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	You are right in saying the 30TC is the basis for, and is the parent case of the 6.5 CM. That's what Hornady says, but the 30 TC didn't just get developed from scratch. Some published data suggests that the actual parent case is the 250 Savage, or more specifically the 250 AI, and they far predate the 30TC.

May 21, 2016, 09:08 AM	#14
zplinker Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2011 Location: way out here Posts: 262	I have a 'bunch' of new R-P 250 Savage brass, if anyone is interested. Not sure how many, but a few hundred. If interested, send a pm.