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Old November 17, 2015, 08:29 AM   #1
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rcbs 505

anyone have a solution for the change in 1/10 scale ,while emptying the charge , I try and be careful but at times the the small indicator moves ,maybe an upgrade is in order thanks CJ
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Old November 17, 2015, 08:44 AM   #2
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What moves it? I used a 505 for awhile and didn't have any problem with it. I guess I don't understand your problem. Maybe a pic of your set up would help.
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Old November 17, 2015, 08:56 AM   #3
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THE 1/10 indicator that sits in groove will jump to another number giving me a higher charge ,I tried bending it but didn't work, didn't want to do that ,cause eventually it will break
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Old November 17, 2015, 12:11 PM   #4
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I can't imagine what's making it jump grooves unless you're inadvertently bumping it with the pan or letting the arm slam down when you remove the pan. I really can't imagine the arm slamming down hard enough to make it jump grooves but I suppose it's possible.
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Old November 17, 2015, 03:51 PM   #5
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It will hop if you pull the pan off too fast and let it drop. All I can suggest is being more carefull when removing the pan or putting it back on.
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Old November 17, 2015, 05:57 PM   #6
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Old November 17, 2015, 06:35 PM   #7
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My 505 would move around if I bumped it at all. Once in awhile the 10th poise would move when taking pan off. I took a piece of 1/4" by 6" balsawood and cut a piece to fit tightly in the bottom and filled it with #2 leadshot. Hasn't happened since doing this.
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Old November 17, 2015, 09:17 PM   #8
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That scale aint a teeter totter and is not cheep. Learn to use it correctly. Watch a video online if you have to.
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Old November 17, 2015, 10:52 PM   #9
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If your press and scale are both on a light bench, operating the press can be enough to make the indicator jump. The RCBS 10-10 is slower to adjust, but eliminates that problem.
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Old November 18, 2015, 07:15 AM   #10
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Every once in a while i'll "bump" my scale pan on the cradle and the 1/10 will jump a groove , I try to be careful but it happens.

As mentioned these are delicate instruments and a slight tap or bump will make them move, also if I haven't used the scale in a while I find that "gun room" dust will settle in the grooves ( raising the poise, not much but enough ) so a clean soft toothbrush takes care of that.
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Old November 19, 2015, 07:13 AM   #11
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looking for a solution ,not ,you don't know what you are doing comments, been using scales way back when I TOOK CHEMISTRY, guess I upgrade to better scale
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Old November 19, 2015, 09:50 AM   #12
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I have my scale setting about 8 inches above my bench and when I reach for the pan my hand very seldom touches the 1/10th poise.
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Old November 19, 2015, 10:22 AM   #13
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Maybe hot glue a foam earplug under the left end of the beam, so if you remove the pan too fast it doesn't bang against the stop.

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Old November 19, 2015, 10:23 AM   #14
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upgrade is in order thanks
It could have a flattened poise caused by sliding back and forth, at the same time the detents in the beam could be rounded off. Before I would allow something like to drive me to the curb I would 'sharpen' the bottom of the poise and recut the dentins on the beam.

Now I 'think' I know what most could be thinking, it is about the weight removed. I use a big hammer to flatten lead shot. After flattening the shot I cut the lead in small pieces then use the small pieces of lead to rebalance the beam.

To go to that much trouble I would have to really like the scale. Or be off in a far away place where I had no choice but 'to fix it'. I do have a problem when working on scales, the problem comes in the form of help. My wife wanted to get involved, she took a beam to the sink to clean, she returned with a beam with all the scale markings removed. No clue what she used but the chemical she used was not compatible to the printing on the beam.

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Old November 19, 2015, 11:40 AM   #15
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thanks F GUFFEY will look at the poise ,even with removing metal the adjustment will bring it back to zero
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Old November 19, 2015, 07:49 PM   #16
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used an edge of a sharp knife and used a sawing motion on the aluminum compound beam ,straightened out the tenth indicator with lineman pliers,and turned the tray holder 180 degrees so access for the tray is away from scale seems to work better,,,just annoying to find that it moved and to reweigh charges CJ
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Old November 19, 2015, 09:08 PM   #17
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Did you try and damping the "bang" from removing the pan?
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Old November 20, 2015, 06:01 AM   #18
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mr morris ,suggestions on how to dampen the beam , an ear pug as stated earlier?
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Old November 20, 2015, 08:58 AM   #19
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Yes, as shown above.

There are any munger of ways to do it that is just likely something you already have handy.
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Old November 22, 2015, 07:14 AM   #20
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Unless you KNOW how to calibrate scales, I wouldn't be adding or removing weight from the beam

A good set of check weights is a must on any handloaders bench, IMO.
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Old November 22, 2015, 08:38 AM   #21
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no weight was removed from the beam only freshened the notches with a sharp edge and ear plug was to be mounted on base of scale
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Old November 22, 2015, 01:58 PM   #22
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This guy has done some cool things with beam scales. I didn't want to fill the base of my 505 up with plaster of paris so I used lead shot instead. Makes the scale much more stable. I also got a piece of 1/2" thick by square foot glass to set the scale on and it has made a big difference. I'm going to try some of the other things he has done as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A2PF2xv_OPs
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