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Old July 16, 2018, 03:12 PM   #1
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Weaver aluminum rings ugh

It’s just my opinion but every time I use them I tighten them to the base and yup they break off and I am not really torquing on them just want them tight. I only used them on my 45-70 because I had them laying around. Just ordered some warne rings never again weaver for me
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Old July 16, 2018, 03:14 PM   #2
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Did it on two sets on two different rifles oh well
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Old July 16, 2018, 07:28 PM   #3
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Weaver brand, or Weaver style?
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Old July 16, 2018, 07:52 PM   #4
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Actually the brand
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Old July 16, 2018, 09:27 PM   #5
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That seems odd. In 50 years of mounting scopes(often using Weaver brand rings), I've never "I tighten them to the base and yup they break off " experienced this.
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Old July 16, 2018, 11:00 PM   #6
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I like the aluminum 4X4 style. They can keep the mettle hook cap type and stick them someplace dark.
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Old July 17, 2018, 12:28 AM   #7
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Having a drawer or so full of Weaver steel rings, I never even knew they made aluminum ones.
NEVER had any issues with STEEL rings.
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Old July 17, 2018, 05:38 AM   #8
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The top straps are steel. I've never seen any Weavers that didn't have the bottom half of the ring made from aluminum. Never had any break either. You may not think they are too tight, but they are. And if you are getting the rings too tight, you are damaging the scope. Not just denting the tube, but the internals.

The older style with screws on one side were hard to get the scope mounted vertically. It will rotate as the screws are tightened. You have to start with the scope slightly canted one way so it will be straight after you finish. Sort of a trial and error process until you get it right.

They aren't the most aesthetically pleasing, but they do work. And I actually like the newer 4X4 rings.
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Old July 17, 2018, 07:29 AM   #9
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I have a 2.5x leupold mounted on my light pump 12 ga 3" magnum on a top mounted rail and have three 4x4 rings holding the scope and had no problems at all with the scope shifting in fireing many magnum shell.
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Old July 17, 2018, 08:18 PM   #10
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Sounds like operator error on my part.they are the older style and I appreciate the heads up jmr. I am going with the warne as that is the base I am using
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Old July 17, 2018, 08:21 PM   #11
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I was wondering, because I've been using Weaver stuff since before most TFL members were born. Probably on over a dozen rifles, through the years. Zero problems of any sort.
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Old July 17, 2018, 08:25 PM   #12
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And I am talking about the ring base where it tightens onto the mount not the top on the scope
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Old July 18, 2018, 07:01 PM   #13
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The slotted knurled knob? I've always used a 25-cent coin. Always worked great.
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Old July 19, 2018, 11:00 AM   #14
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Yes I will take your suggestion I used a large screwdriver
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Old July 19, 2018, 11:30 AM   #15
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I too have been using Weaver rings and bases for 50 yrs and have never had that happen. Most times I use a quarter to tighten and an occasional big screw driver when I didn't have two nickels to rub together... You been workin' out???
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Old July 19, 2018, 01:00 PM   #16
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I have had Weaver rings on dozens of rifles and shotguns for over 50 yrs. I have
a couple dozen pair in cabinet. Have guns bought new in 60s that have original
Weavers still on them. I have never broke the big screw to base. I have broke
the heads off a couple ring screws, but I have broke them on Leupold & RF too.
Weaver used to be top dog. I buy Leupold now but see nothing wrong with
Weavers.
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Old July 19, 2018, 01:05 PM   #17
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In general about scope screws: I tighten until snug. I then really pay attention as I carefully tighten further. There comes a point where resistance notably increases: STOP!

I've yet to have anything come loose, and I have never used any sort of stickum.
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Old July 19, 2018, 01:28 PM   #18
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I don't have a problem with all Weavers

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Weaver brand, or Weaver style?
I don't have a huge problem with the brand but do with some of their older styles. In fact, most of the time, with some exception, they are my Go-To ring. ….

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The older style with screws on one side were hard to get the scope mounted vertically. It will rotate as the screws are tightened. You have to start with the scope slightly canted one way so it will be straight after you finish.
Oh yes and these I do not care for even though I have a lot of left-overs. As far as the fastener you are to referring to, I have never had this problem. I use some large bronze washers and old brass keys. Wheeler torque wrench had a setting for these …..

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Old July 19, 2018, 07:32 PM   #19
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I recomend a wheeler fat wrench. Can be found for under 50 bucks.
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Old July 19, 2018, 07:40 PM   #20
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All of the weaver AR mounts I've bought have aluminum cross-bolts which, if you line the plate which cinches onto the rail not perfectly straight will easily strip the threads of the bolt so that the nut spins uselessly and you will never get a tight fit. I totally agree with the OP it's an inherent design flaw bound to fail if you don't treat it like a Faberge egg. If anyone knows where I can find steel replacement ones--I'd love to know.
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Old July 22, 2018, 04:03 PM   #21
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I really really like Weaver Tactical rings on my AR's I've used at least 6 or 7 sets and they've all been great. You tighten them up to specs and they won't move. That's the only Weavers I have experience with all the other rings I use are DNZ huntmasters. They are IMO the best made for the price.
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Old July 24, 2018, 06:32 AM   #22
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1/4" torque wrench and a 5/16 hex socket to utilize any type of driver bit. No more guessing torque values. I also use SAE specs for given screw thread pitches if I can't find mfg specs. All of my scope and mount issues have since been gone. I like the Warne Fixed rings, steel, and not super expensive. Equal torqueing is important on this configuration of rings.

https://warnescopemounts.com/product...m-matte-rings/
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Old July 24, 2018, 09:00 AM   #23
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I've probably installed scopes on a couple of hundred rifles in my business and hobby and never broke a scope or a base screw. That said, after buying a Fatboy torque screwdriver set and saw the recommended torque settings, I use them every time. They're very accurate, consistent, and scopes don't slip at the recommended settings.

I use the Fatboy for stock screws as well and am able to be so consistent that rifles usually don't lose zero when taking them apart and reassembling them. I always check-fire them before hunting, however.

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Old July 25, 2018, 04:08 PM   #24
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Well after trying out several different rings the warne quick release is absolutely superb. I put two boxes of buffalo bore though my gun took off the scope shot with the iron put the scope back on and still dead nuts on amazing the hold
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Old July 25, 2018, 04:09 PM   #25
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I now will only use warne for this old man. Expensive but worth it. The other thing is if my scope got messed up in the bush i have the iron right there with no tools. By the way as I am an old geezer, even with the recoil eraser my neck and shoulder does know I was blasting a lot off the 45/70. Ouch

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