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April 11, 2018, 11:45 PM | #51 |
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Mostly 21 feet, since that's supposedly the "magic" number for an attacker. I also figure it's highly unlikely to have a self-defense shooting at a greater distance. Probably need to increase that distance - it's getting too easy.
For the LCP, I reduce that down to 10 feet. Reminds me of a joke I once heard about snubbies - if it's to far to hit them over the head with it, you're too far away to shoot them. |
April 13, 2018, 05:55 PM | #52 |
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We only have 3 distances available, 4,15 and 25yards. I shoot the most at 15yds and 25yds.
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April 13, 2018, 09:00 PM | #53 |
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Aside from the usual shooting from 5-15yds with two hands, I always in get some practice rapid shooting one handed with my carry gun, with both my strong and weak hand.
If you watch gunfight videos on Youtube, you'll be amazed at how often people are forced to shoot with one hand while they're diving behind something, moving or grabbing someone, etc. |
April 15, 2018, 01:58 PM | #54 |
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50-75 feet.
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April 15, 2018, 04:01 PM | #55 |
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I got my first handgun in January, the first class I had started us at 3yds and then 5. I practiced at 5 until I was consistently in the center, then moved it out to 7, then 10. Still working on 7 and 10yds, though I've tried it out to the stops and it wasn't pretty LOL.
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April 15, 2018, 04:16 PM | #56 |
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There is no "magic number " ! That was a number for training. Only an approximate distance .The closer the perp the more danger to you !!
You will give yourself advantage if you practice at twice the range , then the short range become easy ! In any case don't lock yourself into one distance vary things foe the real world !
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April 15, 2018, 04:27 PM | #57 | |
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In defensive shooting, where is more to the ratio of the angle subtended to distance in predicting and achieving effective hitting. The balance of speed and precision involves, by definition, both speed and precision. One who practices hitting an area the size of the upper chest at 25 yards will find certain aspects of that practice useless and even counterproductive when the target is twelve feet way and coming fast. |
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April 15, 2018, 04:30 PM | #58 | |
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Because of that, the distance at which shots will be fired will be a whole lot farther, if an attack really does take place. |
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April 15, 2018, 09:58 PM | #59 |
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Today I fired at 7 and 15 yards with a Walther PPK/S 22 and SIG P239 9mm and 25 and 50 yards with a 1911 and 2.5" 686.
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April 15, 2018, 10:36 PM | #60 |
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I practice at 15 feet then 25 feet. Then at the back of my indoor range at 50 feet. All shots are grouped at different places & the last 4 shots at each distance are head shots & crouch shots. I realize that the first 4 should be head & crouch shots and not the last 4. One should never forget that the BG ,in high probability, will wear some sort of armoured chest protector, which I strongly feel that it should be banned except for LEOs & Military use. Just because my car can go 140 mph doesn't mean that I can or should go that fast. This is just my opinion.
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April 17, 2018, 03:32 PM | #61 | |
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Like guns (and knives in London), banning the ownership of same to law-abiding citizens will only mean that law-breakers will have them-and that axiom, sadly, applies to chest protectors.
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April 17, 2018, 06:23 PM | #62 |
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Doc, where are you that your local BGs are so well equipped?
I generally practice at 7-8yds for pistol. I'll move it back to 15 or 25 for a couple mags though. Longer distance is good for showing your mistakes. As for recommendations for practical shooting: Practice so you can get "fist" sized groups at 7-10yds, then work on speed. |
April 18, 2018, 09:35 PM | #63 | |
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April 18, 2018, 09:52 PM | #64 |
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I think what he means is that the ability to shoot small groups at distance does not equate to the ability to make combat effective hits at speed up close.
Two TOTALLY different skill sets. |
April 19, 2018, 12:58 PM | #65 |
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Usually at 7 yards because of my 66 year old eyes but I went to a new indoor range with my son a few weeks ago that had much better lighting and I also had fun and excellent results shooting at 15 and 25 yards though at 25 yards my shots were about 4 inches low which I believe was because I tried wearing my bifocals and had to tilt my head to get best vision at 25 yard while at 15 yards I had no such issue without wearing my bifocals.
I also could not believe the difference in noise levels at the new range versus my old range. The new range must have had some pretty advanced sound deadening technology as the difference to me was astonishing.
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April 20, 2018, 12:37 AM | #66 |
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the indoor range i go to has programs you can run, or it can be a stationary target.. i do 1 mag at 5 yards with each gun i bring, as a warm up.. after that, i will run a couple programs which the target distance can range from point blank to 25 yards.. when i am shooting at my dad's place, we have about 75 yards for a range.. we usually shoot pistols at about 10 yards, and our AR's at 50 to 75 yards..
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April 20, 2018, 12:59 AM | #67 |
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"One should never forget that the BG ,in high probability, will wear some sort of armoured chest protector"
Never heard of one do that. |
April 20, 2018, 09:53 PM | #68 | |
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April 21, 2018, 07:39 AM | #69 |
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My backstop is 32 yards from my porch so that is what most of my shooting is from.I do go 10 to 15 yards with my S&W m36 snubies.My lungs are shot so it real hard to walk very far.My wife is nice and puts my targets out fore me.But I'm still shootn.
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May 12, 2018, 08:53 AM | #72 |
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Shooting distance
10 yards mostly and also at 25 some as well to cover the bases.Truth is we don't know at what range or what condition or situation we may be called upon to take this step in protection of ourselves or loved ones so I feel that it would be best to do it at different ranges.
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May 14, 2018, 01:50 PM | #73 |
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I've been dabbling at 50 yards my last few range trips. The results have suprised me. I have 2 shorter barrel semi-auto pistols with adjustable sights and a longer barrel revolver with fixed sights. Sighted for 15 yards, the semi-autos both shot about a foot high at 50 yards. With the sights at their lowest setting, they hit about 3" high. The revolver was hitting just a couple inches low of POA. Making my own elevation adjustments, I'm hitting COM easy and with concentration, hitting clay pigeons and a similarly sized Birchwood Casey 44mag spinner target.
3.5" barrel 22auto, 3.8" 9mm auto, and a 6.5" 22 saa revolver. I do get better groups with the revolver. There is much room for improvement, but I'm still pretty impressed with what I can accomplish.
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May 16, 2018, 10:15 AM | #74 |
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Range range?
Most of the time the 4 shortest range target hangers on the line are taken by the same old guys sitting, shooting scoped 22s and making shotgun patterns on their targets. That is the 7 yard line.
So, if I'm shooting my short barreled handguns, S&W model 10-5, S&W model 60 or Glock 26, the 15 yard line is all that's open that I'd want to shoot. For long barreled handguns, S&W 681, 696, 60-4 17 or Glock 34, the 25 or 50 yard lines get me shooting. The 50 I have to shoot sitting. Mostly that is with my S&W model 17 and Green Tag. |
May 17, 2018, 06:28 PM | #75 |
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I fire probably only 5% of my ammo any closer than the fifty foot bench at my range. almost everyone I ever see there is shooting at 25 or so so I have to pick out of the three available ranges. one is fifty feet, another is just an open place about a fifty yard berm, another has about a 25 yard berm.
I don't think that shooting at 25 feet provides any sort of training for actual accuracy or shooting, you can't even see what you may be doing wrong if you don't stretch the limits of your capabilities. It's kind of depressing. Things have just changed. precision shooting with a handgun isn't interesting anymore, shooting with speed and athleticism is what works. They're both hard. they both take skill, they are both impressive. I consider control and accuracy to be important.
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