GP11 Swiss Wax

'88Scrat · February 14, 2019, 06:18 PM

I was FINALLY able to get my hands on some GP11 ammo for my K31. I've been using PPU with some degree of success but was happy to finally find the real thing. Only thing that surprised me was the wax, the loads I got were all 1978 and there was a lot of wax between the case and bullet, I assume for preservation.

At the risk of asking a dumb question is there any reason to remove it before shooting?

I'm like 95% I know the answer but would hate to damage my Swiss baby!

lonniemike · February 14, 2019, 10:23 PM

Optional, some take it off, others leave it on. you won't hurt your babe unless you somehow got dirt in the wax. New cartridges in sealed 10 round boxes, no problems, I shoot as is. The Swiss used/shot the wax 70 or so years. The last few years of production they stopped the wax ring and some started adding wax just like the old days. Go figure. AlltheBest

Nodak1858 · February 15, 2019, 01:49 AM

Leave it on and shoot it. Few schools of thought why it's there I've heard, center round in chamber , lube bullet down bore and a few others. But what ever the reason the Swiss wouldn't have done it if it would damage anything.there are even machines made so you can added a wax ring yourself.

jaguarxk120 · February 15, 2019, 08:35 AM

There is a story about two generals meeting, a German and a Swiss.
This happened during WWII, the German stated the could mass 5,000,000 men
at the border, and wanted to know what the Swiss general could do.
The Swiss general stated he could bring one million men to the border.
The German general so full of himself asked what the Swiss would do
if he invaded.
The Swiss general very calmly stated the Swiss men would have to shoot five times
then go home.

I don't know if the story is true, but I've seen them shoot and five shots per man
sounds about right.

RC20 · February 15, 2019, 08:23 PM

Shoot it and enjoy and where the heck did you get the GP11?

Jag120:

The number are inflated but the Germans did choose not to try short cut though Switzerland to get around the Maginot line (which by the day did the job intended, it was betrayed by not being complete in the middle (Ardennes) and not finished on the he North end.

Germany did mass enough troops to lock down French troops at the South end (I would have counted on the Swiss)

'88Scrat · February 16, 2019, 04:10 PM

RC20,

I travel a lot for work and came across a little local gun shop in the middle of nowhere Kansas that had 120 rounds on the shelf

I always try to stop at local gun shops in my travels, never know what you might find!

RC20 · February 16, 2019, 08:16 PM

That is the truth, well done.

Ok, note to self, in future travels.......

February 14, 2019, 06:18 PM	#1
'88Scrat Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 549	GP11 Swiss Wax I was FINALLY able to get my hands on some GP11 ammo for my K31. I've been using PPU with some degree of success but was happy to finally find the real thing. Only thing that surprised me was the wax, the loads I got were all 1978 and there was a lot of wax between the case and bullet, I assume for preservation. At the risk of asking a dumb question is there any reason to remove it before shooting? I'm like 95% I know the answer but would hate to damage my Swiss baby! __________________ BOOM

February 15, 2019, 01:49 AM	#3
Nodak1858 Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2009 Location: N. Dakota Posts: 435	Leave it on and shoot it. Few schools of thought why it's there I've heard, center round in chamber , lube bullet down bore and a few others. But what ever the reason the Swiss wouldn't have done it if it would damage anything.there are even machines made so you can added a wax ring yourself. __________________ We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.

February 15, 2019, 08:23 PM	#5
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	Shoot it and enjoy and where the heck did you get the GP11? Jag120: The number are inflated but the Germans did choose not to try short cut though Switzerland to get around the Maginot line (which by the day did the job intended, it was betrayed by not being complete in the middle (Ardennes) and not finished on the he North end. Germany did mass enough troops to lock down French troops at the South end (I would have counted on the Swiss) __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

February 16, 2019, 04:10 PM	#6
'88Scrat Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 549	RC20, I travel a lot for work and came across a little local gun shop in the middle of nowhere Kansas that had 120 rounds on the shelf I always try to stop at local gun shops in my travels, never know what you might find! __________________ BOOM

February 16, 2019, 08:16 PM	#7
RC20 Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 7,014	That is the truth, well done. Ok, note to self, in future travels....... __________________ Science and Facts are True whether you believe it or not

February 14, 2019, 10:23 PM	#2
lonniemike Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2005 Posts: 138	Optional, some take it off, others leave it on. you won't hurt your babe unless you somehow got dirt in the wax. New cartridges in sealed 10 round boxes, no problems, I shoot as is. The Swiss used/shot the wax 70 or so years. The last few years of production they stopped the wax ring and some started adding wax just like the old days. Go figure. AlltheBest

February 15, 2019, 08:35 AM	#4
jaguarxk120 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,620	There is a story about two generals meeting, a German and a Swiss. This happened during WWII, the German stated the could mass 5,000,000 men at the border, and wanted to know what the Swiss general could do. The Swiss general stated he could bring one million men to the border. The German general so full of himself asked what the Swiss would do if he invaded. The Swiss general very calmly stated the Swiss men would have to shoot five times then go home. I don't know if the story is true, but I've seen them shoot and five shots per man sounds about right.