9mm

ammo.crafter · November 9, 2020, 06:42 PM

Does anyone have a decent starting load for 9mm with a 115gr cast bullet?

I'll be using it in a Hi-Power as well as a SIG SP2022.

Thanks.

PS Have been reloading for 50+ years.

**Aguila Blanca** · November 9, 2020, 06:58 PM

http://www.accuratepowder.com/load-data/

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloade...rs/index.aspx&

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/

http://blog.westernpowders.com/wp-co...1-2016_Web.pdf

And, of course: https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=435562

rc · November 9, 2020, 07:41 PM

With full power jacketed 9mm Universal Clays burns clean and is consistent. With lower pressure loads, W231 is probably more optimum. Clays or 700x may also be good with cast lead. For plinking loads, lots of powders will work.

cdoc42 · November 9, 2020, 07:43 PM

ammocrafter, I've been handloading, at least, 20 calibers in Pa for 44 years, now down to 15.

I can suggest the following, but, as you know, it depends on your gun: used Colt American, Ruger LCR, Walther PPQ

115gr (depends on the manufacturer - Hornady, Remington, Missouri Bullet Co., Precision Delta):

HP-38 5.0gr
Titegroup 4.5gr
Clays 3.7gr
Blue Dot 6.8gr

Best group= CFE Pistol, 5.7gr. Check maximum load, drop back toward minimum and work up.

ammo.crafter · November 10, 2020, 05:47 AM

Thanks for the good advice, it's most appreciated and gives me a good starting point.

Hammerhead · November 10, 2020, 10:40 PM

I like HP-38/W231 for 9mm with 115's, but 5 grains sounds like a pretty stiff starting load with 115 lead.
Most printed data I have for lead starts around 3.8 or 4 grains, and top out around 4.8 or 5.
I use 4.4 W231 as a practice load with coated 115's.

noylj · November 10, 2020, 11:01 PM

That did not sound like a 50+ year reloader to me.
Never heard of loading manuals?
Never heard of specifying the powder used?
Never heard of difference in load data between lead/plated and jacketed bullets?
What do you want the load to do? Plinking? Paper target at 10 yards? Precision accuracy at 50 yards? Hitting steel plates at 10 yards?

cdoc42 · November 11, 2020, 12:51 PM

Hammerhead said: "I like HP-38/W231 for 9mm with 115's, but 5 grains sounds like a pretty stiff starting load with 115 lead."

I apologize. None of the loads I listed have been used with lead/cast bullets. I should have been more specific, especially since I obviously missed OP's request on this issue.

**Unclenick** · November 11, 2020, 05:49 PM

Hodgdon recommends HP-38/231 at 4.3 grains to start, working up to 4.8 grains maximum with 115-grain LRN bullets.

November 9, 2020, 06:42 PM	#1
ammo.crafter Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2006 Location: The Keystone State Posts: 1,970	9mm Does anyone have a decent starting load for 9mm with a 115gr cast bullet? I'll be using it in a Hi-Power as well as a SIG SP2022. Thanks. PS Have been reloading for 50+ years. __________________ "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". --Thomas Jefferson

November 9, 2020, 06:58 PM	#2
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 18,468	http://www.accuratepowder.com/load-data/ http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloade...rs/index.aspx& http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/ http://blog.westernpowders.com/wp-co...1-2016_Web.pdf And, of course: https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=435562 __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

November 10, 2020, 05:47 AM	#5
ammo.crafter Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2006 Location: The Keystone State Posts: 1,970	9mm reloads Thanks for the good advice, it's most appreciated and gives me a good starting point. __________________ "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". --Thomas Jefferson

November 11, 2020, 05:49 PM	#9
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	Hodgdon recommends HP-38/231 at 4.3 grains to start, working up to 4.8 grains maximum with 115-grain LRN bullets. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

November 9, 2020, 07:41 PM	#3
rc Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2001 Location: CA Posts: 1,767	With full power jacketed 9mm Universal Clays burns clean and is consistent. With lower pressure loads, W231 is probably more optimum. Clays or 700x may also be good with cast lead. For plinking loads, lots of powders will work.

November 9, 2020, 07:43 PM	#4
cdoc42 Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,687	ammocrafter, I've been handloading, at least, 20 calibers in Pa for 44 years, now down to 15. I can suggest the following, but, as you know, it depends on your gun: used Colt American, Ruger LCR, Walther PPQ 115gr (depends on the manufacturer - Hornady, Remington, Missouri Bullet Co., Precision Delta): HP-38 5.0gr Titegroup 4.5gr Clays 3.7gr Blue Dot 6.8gr Best group= CFE Pistol, 5.7gr. Check maximum load, drop back toward minimum and work up.

November 10, 2020, 10:40 PM	#6
Hammerhead Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,432	I like HP-38/W231 for 9mm with 115's, but 5 grains sounds like a pretty stiff starting load with 115 lead. Most printed data I have for lead starts around 3.8 or 4 grains, and top out around 4.8 or 5. I use 4.4 W231 as a practice load with coated 115's.

November 10, 2020, 11:01 PM	#7
noylj Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2007 Location: Between CA and NM Posts: 858	That did not sound like a 50+ year reloader to me. Never heard of loading manuals? Never heard of specifying the powder used? Never heard of difference in load data between lead/plated and jacketed bullets? What do you want the load to do? Plinking? Paper target at 10 yards? Precision accuracy at 50 yards? Hitting steel plates at 10 yards?

November 11, 2020, 12:51 PM	#8
cdoc42 Senior Member Join Date: March 13, 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,687	Hammerhead said: "I like HP-38/W231 for 9mm with 115's, but 5 grains sounds like a pretty stiff starting load with 115 lead." I apologize. None of the loads I listed have been used with lead/cast bullets. I should have been more specific, especially since I obviously missed OP's request on this issue.