National Bullet Co. Problem

GASCHECK · December 12, 2006, 12:31 AM

LOADERS:

To make it short, I ordered $90 worth of pistol bullets from National Bullet Co. in May, and have not been able to get the bullets or my money refunded. Anyone else have trouble with them? Such a big company, I can't imagine what is going on!

Thanks!
Gascheck

inkie · December 12, 2006, 01:22 AM

It may be that you waited to long to get your money back but, if you paid by credit card which you should do nowadays. Contact the card issuer they will get you your refund or find out why you can't get your bullets. Some cards have purchase security benifits which pays you off it the seller renegs on the sale.

DonR101395 · December 12, 2006, 04:09 AM

You should have checked here http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...ational+bullet a few months ago. Several of us had the same problem. Funny thing is after I removed my name from their mailing list the email flyers would stop for 2-3 weeks then start again. The last one they send me I sent them an email telling them that I had removed my name 4 times and that anymore emails would be viewed as harassment and turned over to a lawyer and their local law enforcement. I haven't gotten any emails from them in two months. Some people just seem to be careless and not too bright.

gary2905 · December 12, 2006, 07:22 AM

Just as Don wrote, the NBC has been a problem for at least a year with long delayed orders, incomplete orders flat out lying to you when you write, the whole gamut of a failing company.
As Don noted, go to the Firing Line forun and there are pages and pages of horror stories about them.
Next time try looking in a few forums about the company and see if there are any/many reports of disaster or are people satisfied.
Just ask, many of us are happy to give a report.

Ausserordeutlich · December 12, 2006, 12:30 PM

Why would you assume that it's "such a big company?"

GASCHECK · December 17, 2006, 10:51 PM

Reloaders:

Yes, I admit it was stupid of me to let my unfilled order go for so long. But for some reason, I thought that they were a long established reliable company and just had some problems.

I ran out of prepared ingots for my bullet casting pot and thought I would just get a 1000 each of .38 wadcutters and .45 Colt bullets to tide me over until a remelt.
I called my VISA card issuer and talked to some airhead who just kept repeating "It's past the 60 day limit!" like a damn recording. So I am going to write to them because the info on their web site says they might be able to help out even after 60 days.
If no results, I will go to the BBB and the Ohio AG.
Maybe I'm lucky, but this is the first rotten apple I have come across in all my 50 years of reloading.
Thanks for your replies.
Gascheck

Clark · December 24, 2006, 01:06 PM

I am a big fan of NB Copperized cast bullets for 45acp.

Sad to see them have trouble.

I did learn about the 60 day limit

Craig M. Arnold · December 24, 2006, 09:31 PM

Sorry to hear that NBC is still ripping people off. I had a lot of trouble with them about a year ago. Finally got "most" of the bullets I ordered after many, many e-mails.

There are a ton of good, reliable bullet companies around. NBC is certainly not one of them.

Hope you get your money back.

Best regards.

pumpkinheaver · December 25, 2006, 12:48 AM

Maybe they are too busy e-mailing me about their wonderful sales to make your bullets. I get crap from them everyday!! I have never bought from them and probably never will, 95% of the lead bullets I shoot are cast by myself. I do buy some bullets for my .32 mags once in a while.

Mike P. Wagner · December 25, 2006, 08:45 AM

Quote:

and have not been able to get the bullets or my money refunded.

I cancelled my order and called my cedit card company myself. Did you pay by credit card?

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Maybe they are too busy e-mailing me about their wonderful sales to make your bullets.

That was particularly annoying - the order gets later and later, phone calls always end with, "We expect to ship your order next weekl" - and the spam keeps coming.

Mike

dogandshorty@comcast · December 30, 2006, 02:00 PM

I have turned them into the BBB in Cleveland last week or so. Got a reply a few days later saying the complaint has been filed and a copy has been given to National Bullet. I sent the order in in August . This a real crock. The BBB said up to 6 weeks. My order was 46 odd bucks. I also told then I wanted my products and perks to go with them for the BS I have gone through. I told the BBB I wanted no coupons from these people. I was at the Fir Fin and Feather store in Ashland Ohio weeks ago and the guy in the basement at the reloading and rental dept. said they had been waiting too for shipments too and didn't know why they were late. We shall see what we shall see...Dog

Abstract · December 30, 2006, 05:40 PM

At some point, a criminal investigation of NBC should be initiated!

dogandshorty@comcast · December 30, 2006, 06:01 PM

I have read this on the S and W forum too. I don't understand how after gittin your bottom whipped by everyone and their brother, they can still have the stones to do the same thing... I hope the BBB will have some answers, I did read on the BBB site that they have had trouble befor. Dog :barf:

December 12, 2006, 12:31 AM	#1
GASCHECK Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2004 Posts: 218	National Bullet Co. Problem LOADERS: To make it short, I ordered $90 worth of pistol bullets from National Bullet Co. in May, and have not been able to get the bullets or my money refunded. Anyone else have trouble with them? Such a big company, I can't imagine what is going on! Thanks! Gascheck

December 12, 2006, 01:22 AM	#2
inkie Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2006 Location: Eastern Pa. Posts: 137	gascheck It may be that you waited to long to get your money back but, if you paid by credit card which you should do nowadays. Contact the card issuer they will get you your refund or find out why you can't get your bullets. Some cards have purchase security benifits which pays you off it the seller renegs on the sale.

December 17, 2006, 10:51 PM	#6
GASCHECK Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2004 Posts: 218	National Bullet Co Reloaders: Yes, I admit it was stupid of me to let my unfilled order go for so long. But for some reason, I thought that they were a long established reliable company and just had some problems. I ran out of prepared ingots for my bullet casting pot and thought I would just get a 1000 each of .38 wadcutters and .45 Colt bullets to tide me over until a remelt. I called my VISA card issuer and talked to some airhead who just kept repeating "It's past the 60 day limit!" like a damn recording. So I am going to write to them because the info on their web site says they might be able to help out even after 60 days. If no results, I will go to the BBB and the Ohio AG. Maybe I'm lucky, but this is the first rotten apple I have come across in all my 50 years of reloading. Thanks for your replies. Gascheck

December 25, 2006, 12:48 AM	#9
pumpkinheaver Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 294	Maybe they are too busy e-mailing me about their wonderful sales to make your bullets. I get crap from them everyday!! I have never bought from them and probably never will, 95% of the lead bullets I shoot are cast by myself. I do buy some bullets for my .32 mags once in a while. __________________ Just because your paranoid don't mean they aint out to get ya.

December 12, 2006, 04:09 AM	#3
DonR101395 Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Location: NWFL Posts: 3,031	You should have checked here http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...ational+bullet a few months ago. Several of us had the same problem. Funny thing is after I removed my name from their mailing list the email flyers would stop for 2-3 weeks then start again. The last one they send me I sent them an email telling them that I had removed my name 4 times and that anymore emails would be viewed as harassment and turned over to a lawyer and their local law enforcement. I haven't gotten any emails from them in two months. Some people just seem to be careless and not too bright.

December 12, 2006, 07:22 AM	#4
gary2905 Member Join Date: December 20, 2005 Location: Rural-not for long- Virginia Posts: 60	Just as Don wrote, the NBC has been a problem for at least a year with long delayed orders, incomplete orders flat out lying to you when you write, the whole gamut of a failing company. As Don noted, go to the Firing Line forun and there are pages and pages of horror stories about them. Next time try looking in a few forums about the company and see if there are any/many reports of disaster or are people satisfied. Just ask, many of us are happy to give a report.

December 12, 2006, 12:30 PM	#5
Ausserordeutlich Junior member Join Date: May 27, 2006 Posts: 996	Why would you assume that it's "such a big company?"

December 24, 2006, 01:06 PM	#7
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	I am a big fan of NB Copperized cast bullets for 45acp. Sad to see them have trouble. I did learn about the 60 day limit

December 24, 2006, 09:31 PM	#8
Craig M. Arnold Member Join Date: December 4, 2002 Location: Southern Arizona Posts: 86	Sorry to hear that NBC is still ripping people off. I had a lot of trouble with them about a year ago. Finally got "most" of the bullets I ordered after many, many e-mails. There are a ton of good, reliable bullet companies around. NBC is certainly not one of them. Hope you get your money back. Best regards.

December 30, 2006, 02:00 PM	#11
dogandshorty@comcast Junior Member Join Date: December 30, 2006 Location: wintersville Ohio Posts: 3	I have turned them into the BBB in Cleveland last week or so. Got a reply a few days later saying the complaint has been filed and a copy has been given to National Bullet. I sent the order in in August . This a real crock. The BBB said up to 6 weeks. My order was 46 odd bucks. I also told then I wanted my products and perks to go with them for the BS I have gone through. I told the BBB I wanted no coupons from these people. I was at the Fir Fin and Feather store in Ashland Ohio weeks ago and the guy in the basement at the reloading and rental dept. said they had been waiting too for shipments too and didn't know why they were late. We shall see what we shall see...Dog

December 30, 2006, 05:40 PM	#12
Abstract Junior member Join Date: December 25, 2006 Posts: 443	At some point, a criminal investigation of NBC should be initiated!

December 30, 2006, 06:01 PM	#13
dogandshorty@comcast Junior Member Join Date: December 30, 2006 Location: wintersville Ohio Posts: 3	I have read this on the S and W forum too. I don't understand how after gittin your bottom whipped by everyone and their brother, they can still have the stones to do the same thing... I hope the BBB will have some answers, I did read on the BBB site that they have had trouble befor. Dog :barf: