Walther trigger/hammer.

Coinneach · June 26, 2000, 11:51 AM

This weekend, Cindy and I went to the range with her PPK/s. This was our second session with this pistol.

On occasion, the hammer wouldn't fall in single-action, regardless of how the trigger was pulled. After decocking and recocking, it worked.

The gun was fully in battery. Ammo feed and function were perfect (using Fiocchi and American Eagle ball). Just once in a while, the hammer stayed back until it was manually dropped.

Opinions?

James K · June 26, 2000, 12:23 PM

Tough without seeing the gun, but I suspect the trigger linkage. Making sure the gun is unloaded, remove the grips and check the right side. Make sure the trigger spring is engaging and pushing up the trigger bar. Also look at the engagement of the trigger bar with the sear. If there is nothing wrong there, come back at me and I'll try to help further.

Jim

Coinneach · June 26, 2000, 12:37 PM

Thanks, Jim. I've had the grips off and the trigger hardware looks similar to my Beretta 92, so it shouldn't be too hard to finger out.

Strayhorn · June 26, 2000, 01:47 PM

Taking the right grip panel off is indeed the place to start - check to make sure none of the linkage parts is rubbing the grip. Sometimes it will prevent the trigger from resetting after the slide has recocked the hammer.

Check the left grip panel next for the same thing. Aftermarket grips are particularly famous for rubbing action parts and messing up the trigger action.

One day I'll tell you about the time I had a "full-auto" PPK one morning when the Hogue wood grips fouled the trigger bar . . .

Ken Strayhorn
Hillsborough NC

Coinneach · June 27, 2000, 11:45 AM

After-action report: I stripped the pistol (field + grips), cleaned it, looked for wear and found nothing out of the ordinary, and found no wear marks on the inside of the grip or on the trigger bar. After reassembling it, I dry-fired it 100 times, 75 single-action, 25 double-action. I couldn't get the problem to reoccur.

Weird. I'll take it to the range later this week and try to get it to happen again.

dswindle · January 12, 2005, 06:24 AM

This exact problem happened to me with my new PPK/S made by S&W. The problem in my case turned out to be my new Buffalo Horn Eagle Grips. The left grip was the problem. I took a knife and VERY SLOWLY scrapped some material off of the inside and back of the left grip, and that allowed the mechanism to move freely. The second problem was the slide release button. The grips cause it to be pushed in just slightly. I had to remove some material from that area too so that the button would be flush on the right side of the pistol. If you have factory grips, then your problem is more than likely different than mine. After market grips are particularly more sensitive with Walther's than with 1911's.

June 26, 2000, 11:51 AM	#1
Coinneach Staff Alumnus Join Date: February 23, 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,272	This weekend, Cindy and I went to the range with her PPK/s. This was our second session with this pistol. On occasion, the hammer wouldn't fall in single-action, regardless of how the trigger was pulled. After decocking and recocking, it worked. The gun was fully in battery. Ammo feed and function were perfect (using Fiocchi and American Eagle ball). Just once in a while, the hammer stayed back until it was manually dropped. Opinions?

June 26, 2000, 12:23 PM	#2
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Tough without seeing the gun, but I suspect the trigger linkage. Making sure the gun is unloaded, remove the grips and check the right side. Make sure the trigger spring is engaging and pushing up the trigger bar. Also look at the engagement of the trigger bar with the sear. If there is nothing wrong there, come back at me and I'll try to help further. Jim

June 26, 2000, 12:37 PM	#3
Coinneach Staff Alumnus Join Date: February 23, 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,272	Thanks, Jim. I've had the grips off and the trigger hardware looks similar to my Beretta 92, so it shouldn't be too hard to finger out.

June 26, 2000, 01:47 PM	#4
Strayhorn Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2000 Location: Central NC Posts: 339	Taking the right grip panel off is indeed the place to start - check to make sure none of the linkage parts is rubbing the grip. Sometimes it will prevent the trigger from resetting after the slide has recocked the hammer. Check the left grip panel next for the same thing. Aftermarket grips are particularly famous for rubbing action parts and messing up the trigger action. One day I'll tell you about the time I had a "full-auto" PPK one morning when the Hogue wood grips fouled the trigger bar . . . Ken Strayhorn Hillsborough NC

June 27, 2000, 11:45 AM	#5
Coinneach Staff Alumnus Join Date: February 23, 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,272	After-action report: I stripped the pistol (field + grips), cleaned it, looked for wear and found nothing out of the ordinary, and found no wear marks on the inside of the grip or on the trigger bar. After reassembling it, I dry-fired it 100 times, 75 single-action, 25 double-action. I couldn't get the problem to reoccur. Weird. I'll take it to the range later this week and try to get it to happen again.

January 12, 2005, 06:24 AM	#6
dswindle Member Join Date: January 11, 2005 Posts: 55	This exact problem happened to me with my new PPK/S made by S&W. The problem in my case turned out to be my new Buffalo Horn Eagle Grips. The left grip was the problem. I took a knife and VERY SLOWLY scrapped some material off of the inside and back of the left grip, and that allowed the mechanism to move freely. The second problem was the slide release button. The grips cause it to be pushed in just slightly. I had to remove some material from that area too so that the button would be flush on the right side of the pistol. If you have factory grips, then your problem is more than likely different than mine. After market grips are particularly more sensitive with Walther's than with 1911's.